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Ajay

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I'm curious exactly what you base this on. At any rate, the "problem" didn't exist until they created it, so they could "solve" it. Do we really think trans women only just started using the women's restroom ten years ago, thus necessitating new laws to prevent such a travesty?
My female family and friends. Of course, now I feel stupid - obviously women’s restrooms only have stalls. Apologies to @Fenixgoon .
 
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It's too ambiguous of a term? (joke intended, but generally agree that I don't like adding "ism" to it). It makes it feel like a belief system instead of describing an actual biological effect.

Would it not make hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism purely ideological conditions? How about autism?
 

kitkat22

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Would it not make hypothyroidism and hyperthyroidism purely ideological conditions? How about autism?
It's more about context and the intent of those who are using it. Sure, you can throw it into a medical context, but the current use by those using it is along the lines of Nazism, Fascism or Communism
 

pmv

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It's more about context and the intent of those who are using it. Sure, you can throw it into a medical context, but the current use by those using it is along the lines of Nazism, Fascism or Communism

Yeah, I guess it would depend entirely on context. I can see it could be used to imply the idea that it's a political movement. Just got me into a tangential wondering about the technicalities of the English language, though. i.e. what makes some physical conditions isms, but not others?
 
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So, if someone uses a VPN, or just travels to a neighboring state and downloads the app there... then what?
If they are on android they can side load the app from a download through their usb cable or download the apk locally to their phone storage. Fellow iphone users will not be able to. the only benefit to such a law passing nationally is kids won't become even more stupid with the dumb shit they do on the service platform.
 
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kitkat22

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If they are on android they can side load the app from a download through their usb cable or download the apk locally to their phone storage. Fellow iphone users will not be able to. the only benefit to such a law passing nationally is kids won't become even more stupid with the dumb shit they do on the service platform.
It's like Utah antiporn bill. Really unenforceable. In the article, even the lawmakers admitted they had no idea how to enforce it.
 

Ajay

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It's like Utah antiporn bill. Really unenforceable. In the article, even the lawmakers admitted they had no idea how to enforce it.
Too bad. There is supposedly an epidemic of increasing porn use by boys aged 8-11. That’s not healthy in terms of psychosexual formation or the development of healthy romantic relationships later in life (there were some good TED talks on this some years ago).

Then there's the ultra-sexpositive folks who apparently take their cues from the MBLA. Anyway……
 

kitkat22

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Too bad. There is supposedly an epidemic of increasing porn use by boys aged 8-11. That’s not healthy in terms of psychosexual formation or the development of healthy romantic relationships later in life (there were some good TED talks on this some years ago).

Then there's the ultra-sexpositive folks who apparently take their cues from the MBLA. Anyway……
Don't get me wrong, I disagree with porn use. But a law by the government on something so easily accessible isn't going to change anything. It does fall on proper raising of children but that assumes all children have happy and healthy homes where parents are willing to teach and guide. But we all know there is divorce, custody battles, orphans, homeless children and kids just trying to find food. Instead of focusing on a law that essentially has no effect, why don't we actually support family dynamics, break generational abuse and give people the ability to be home.

Why is sex Ed taught in school? Because parents don't at home. Why are teachers often the teachers of "morals?" Because parents don't at home. Teachers are some of our most powerful assets to caring for our children and those that can easily fall through the cracks. But there are now states villianizing teachers and professors.

I think this bill and the anti-porn bill are stupid, not because it wouldn't be great to eliminate porn or affect tiktok but because it does nothing and changes nothing. It's a waste of time and these legislators know it.

Start with supporting our teachers and give them resources and income to stay and be competitive. Work to teach and support families with good jobs and insurance.
 
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A///

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Don't get me wrong, I disagree with porn use.
I don't like porn either and think it sets a bad example for youth and people of all ages because of the unrealistic and exploitive nature of it but I'm not the kind of person to prevent or advocate the prevention of others from watching it themselves. This is bureaucratic bullshit. Standard GOP bullshit for "we tried to help but they're too powerful!" In the end it was taxpayer waste that funded the research and development of this bill, and the taxpayers will foot the bill when TikTok's US branch sues for first amendment violations. They'll have more money to drag the state of Montana into a years long expensive trial. The nature of this bill may have considerable implications down the line in future cases.

On the other end of the crazy spectrum DeShitStain has passed a law for the state to legally kidnap children from their parents if they have suspicions that child is not their native gender. No offense meant to anyone who is different here I'm unsure what the correct terminology is. I look forward to stand your ground laws being used by the fine citizens of Florida, Democrat or Republican, to protect their kids. It's all "fuck the libs" until you realise they'll come after your closeted or out to family only relative or child. Once it affects them personally most Republicans seem to realise they fucked up.

Personally I'm fucking sick of seeing Peewee Herman's face on the TV every time I watch the news. And the fucker still thinks he's got a shot at the white house. maybe scraping bird shit off the roof.
 
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Ajay

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Don't get me wrong, I disagree with porn use. But a law by the government on something so easily accessible isn't going to change anything. It does fall on proper raising of children but that assumes all children have happy and healthy homes where parents are willing to teach and guide. But we all know there is divorce, custody battles, orphans, homeless children and kids just trying to find food. Instead of focusing on a law that essentially has no effect, why don't we actually support family dynamics, break generational abuse and give people the ability to be home.

Why is sex Ed taught in school? Because parents don't at home. Why are teachers often the teachers of "morals?" Because parents don't at home. Teachers are some of our most powerful assets to caring for our children and those that can easily fall through the cracks. But there are now states villianizing teachers and professors.

I think this bill and the anti-porn bill are stupid, not because it wouldn't be great to eliminate porn or affect tiktok but because it does nothing and changes nothing. It's a waste of time and these legislators know it.

Start with supporting our teachers and give them resources and income to stay and be competitive. Work to teach and support families with good jobs and insurance.
Absolutely agree with the majority of problem beginning (and ending) at home. It’s like we forgotten how to raise children. Once a couple chooses to bring children into the world - they must be priority number one. Divorce is one of the most harmful of all psychological traumas that can be afflicted on children. Wonder why kids suffer emotional and mental health problems at ever increasing rates - look no further than divorced and/or absentee parents. I know I’m in the minority of propnents of the abolition of 'no fault' divorce laws. People used to have the good sense to stay married until their children reached adulthood. Did it suck for the couple, yes - but get the hell over yourselves, suck it up and do your damn job. Too many people have lost all sense of the need for sacrifice.

I don’t mean to make light of this, or pretend it’s easy - but we are clearly traveling down the wrong path when it comes to raising children today (though there are also improvements, for parents who had good examples and bother with educating themselves on best practices).

/ steps off soapbox
 

nakedfrog

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Then there's the ultra-sexpositive folks who apparently take their cues from the MBLA. Anyway……
Wow, you really went and said that, didn't you?
Absolutely agree with the majority of problem beginning (and ending) at home. It’s like we forgotten how to raise children. Once a couple chooses to bring children into the world - they must be priority number one. Divorce is one of the most harmful of all psychological traumas that can be afflicted on children. Wonder why kids suffer emotional and mental health problems at ever increasing rates - look no further than divorced and/or absentee parents. I know I’m in the minority of propnents of the abolition of 'no fault' divorce laws. People used to have the good sense to stay married until their children reached adulthood. Did it suck for the couple, yes - but get the hell over yourselves, suck it up and do your damn job. Too many people have lost all sense of the need for sacrifice.
It sucks for kids to be raised by people who don't want to be together too, you know, and warps their understanding of what a relationship should be like.
 

Ajay

Lifer
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Wow, you really went and said that, didn't you?

It sucks for kids to be raised by people who don't want to be together too, you know, and warps their understanding of what a relationship should be like.
Somebody has to go there once and a while. Some folks go a bit nuts on the sex positive stuff, IMHO.

It does suck for kids to be in some victims of some bad marriages (particularly verbally or physically abusive ones). But I’d rather we spend time and efforts as a culture to deal with that problem than live with the lie that the nuclear family isn’t the most optimal environment for raising children. No fault divorce is an experiment that failed and should be discarded as such.
 

kitkat22

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There is so much wrong here:


Get out the gestapos and bouncers. My driver's license isn't enough and I have to defend my intersex/DSD status in court. I don't swear, but what the hell?
 

JD50

Lifer
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Somebody has to go there once and a while. Some folks go a bit nuts on the sex positive stuff, IMHO.

It does suck for kids to be in some victims of some bad marriages (particularly verbally or physically abusive ones). But I’d rather we spend time and efforts as a culture to deal with that problem than live with the lie that the nuclear family isn’t the most optimal environment for raising children. No fault divorce is an experiment that failed and should be discarded as such.
It's none of your business why 2 adults would want a divorce.
 
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