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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Somebody has to go there once and a while. Some folks go a bit nuts on the sex positive stuff, IMHO.
People are constantly going there, what you said is just differently-branded "groomer" talk.
It does suck for kids to be in some victims of some bad marriages (particularly verbally or physically abusive ones). But I’d rather we spend time and efforts as a culture to deal with that problem than live with the lie that the nuclear family isn’t the most optimal environment for raising children. No fault divorce is an experiment that failed and should be discarded as such.
Yes to helping fix the issues, no to getting rid of no-fault divorce. UBI, universal pre-K, single-payer healthcare, etc.
 

kitkat22

Golden Member
Feb 10, 2005
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Just looked over the phrasing of their definition of male and female in the bill -

"the bill defines female as 'a person belonging, at birth, to the biological sex which as the specific reproductive role of producing eggs.' and a male as 'a person belonging, at birth, to the biological sex which has the specific reproductive role of producing sperm.'"

If you are any variation of the above - like a lot of intersex people - you are a target. So, yeah, get your genetics checked at the door people.

All in the name of "protecting children."

This is blatant "guilty until proven innocent." Because I am transgender, I target kids. They have made the completely false assumption that I am out for their children and will come in the dead of night to give them the "gay and the trans." What a load of horse dung. What horrible, vile, evil, bigoted, malicious and reprehensible so-called humans.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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yes I know I personally made a mistake discussing trans causes a week or two ago which got me some scorn. tell you the truth I've never come across a person who was, much less a person who was openly homosexual. you don't see it many industries due to the work involved. the glamboyant ones exist but it doesn't bother me. I can't say I've ever worked with an lgbt person in my life.
I guarantee you have come across an openly gay person in your life.

They may not have broadcasted it to you, because that just isn't something "normal" that people do. I mean when is the last time you broadcasted you are straight? That is, assuming you are.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I guarantee you have come across an openly gay person in your life.

They may not have broadcasted it to you, because that just isn't something "normal" that people do. I mean when is the last time you broadcasted you are straight? That is, assuming you are.
He may have encountered a trans person too, because IDGAF what anyone thinks, you cannot "always tell". IMO even more so with trans men. Once a trans person goes stealth, they get the joy of people saying transphobic shit to them not realizing they're talking to a trans person, who just has to smile and nod because they don't want to out themselves.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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Absolutely agree with the majority of problem beginning (and ending) at home. It’s like we forgotten how to raise children. Once a couple chooses to bring children into the world - they must be priority number one. Divorce is one of the most harmful of all psychological traumas that can be afflicted on children. Wonder why kids suffer emotional and mental health problems at ever increasing rates - look no further than divorced and/or absentee parents. I know I’m in the minority of propnents of the abolition of 'no fault' divorce laws. People used to have the good sense to stay married until their children reached adulthood. Did it suck for the couple, yes - but get the hell over yourselves, suck it up and do your damn job. Too many people have lost all sense of the need for sacrifice.

I don’t mean to make light of this, or pretend it’s easy - but we are clearly traveling down the wrong path when it comes to raising children today (though there are also improvements, for parents who had good examples and bother with educating themselves on best practices).

/ steps off soapbox

So there are no ill effects to a child of parents who constantly argue, possibly engage in verbal and/or physical abuse?
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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So there are no ill effects to a child of parents who constantly argue, possibly engage in verbal and/or physical abuse?
I still remember the day my parents separated on their way to divorce very fondly. It was such an incredible feeling of relief for all that hatred and tension to be gone from the house. If my parents had followed his advice it would have been a nightmare.

I'm sure in some cases 'staying together for the children' makes sense but people should also consider 'separating for the children'.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Somebody has to go there once and a while. Some folks go a bit nuts on the sex positive stuff, IMHO.

It does suck for kids to be in some victims of some bad marriages (particularly verbally or physically abusive ones). But I’d rather we spend time and efforts as a culture to deal with that problem than live with the lie that the nuclear family isn’t the most optimal environment for raising children. No fault divorce is an experiment that failed and should be discarded as such.
Yeah kindly and respectfully fuck right off.
 

woolfe9998

Lifer
Apr 8, 2013
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I still remember the day my parents separated on their way to divorce very fondly. It was such an incredible feeling of relief for all that hatred and tension to be gone from the house. If my parents had followed his advice it would have been a nightmare.

I'm sure in some cases 'staying together for the children' makes sense but people should also consider 'separating for the children'.

Yup, when I was young my parents did not overall have a bad relationship, but they had a few real blow-out fights that went on for hours. I vividly recall cowering in my bedroom, afraid and demoralized. Had that been typical in their relationship with those kinds of fights happening often, I would have wanted them to divorce too.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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It's none of your business why 2 adults would want a divorce.
You are right. But it does matter if we have laws that damage society - particularly children. If if you don’t care about that - future generations are determining your future as well.
 

A///

Diamond Member
Feb 24, 2017
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I guarantee you have come across an openly gay person in your life.

They may not have broadcasted it to you, because that just isn't something "normal" that people do. I mean when is the last time you broadcasted you are straight? That is, assuming you are.
You make a good point there.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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You are right. But it does matter if we have laws that damage society - particularly children. If if you don’t care about that - future generations are determining your future as well.
You're basically just making an argument against getting married, which I think probably is not your intent.
 
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Ajay

Lifer
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You're basically just making an argument against getting married, which I think probably is not your intent.
What?? The current situation has led to couples not getting married. Geez, that is so freaking obvious.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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How do you tie something to "MBLA" and claim you're not talking about "grooming"?
"Cues" - meaning an extremist view point. MBLA is obviously an absurdly extreme view point - an immoral one. I don’t feel like going into the bizarre stuff I’ve seen in sex positivity - maybe I’ll post an example later. Seems I hit allot of nerves today.
 

A///

Diamond Member
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the only sex positive discussion I've ever seen or heard from are from middle aged women, married or divorced, helping other middle aged women refresh their outlook on life and self love.


your post sounds like the catholic church's priests are giving sex positivity talks.
 
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Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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If no-fault divorces are removed, that provides incentive to not get married in the first place.
You missed what I said - the marriage rate has been declining since the '70s. When no-fault-divorce laws were being implemented. There are other factors involved - that’s just a good starting point. Graph from the JEC.

 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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You missed what I said - the marriage rate has been declining since the '70s. When no-fault-divorce laws were being implemented. There are other factors involved - that’s just a good starting point. Graph from the JEC.

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You know what else happened in the 1970s?
"The Equal Credit Opportunity Act of 1974 gave every American woman, married or not, the right to open her own bank or credit account."
Either way, I didn't "miss" what you said, divorce is already a tremendous hassle, and you want to make it harder because you think it's better for society.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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LOL - I think you meant disrespectfully. I know it can be hard to write single sentences.
With disrespect now you can go fuck yourself you fucking religious whackadoodle.

In all seriousness just like your horseshit pro life stance you need to stay out of other people’s shit. Ultimately you’re just trying to apply the half assed morality of a 6000 year old work of fiction to the lives of others.
 

Pohemi

Diamond Member
Oct 2, 2004
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LOL - I think you meant disrespectfully. I know it can be hard to write single sentences.
Did you miss the sarcasm in this well-used phrase? Nothing about the "kindly" part? You're smarter than that.
You missed what I said - the marriage rate has been declining since the '70s. When no-fault-divorce laws were being implemented. There are other factors involved - that’s just a good starting point. Graph from the JEC.
So...are you claiming that no-fault is what CAUSED the drop? And you believe ditching it would increase marriage rates? I heartily disagree.
 

Ajay

Lifer
Jan 8, 2001
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With disrespect now you can go fuck yourself you fucking religious whackadoodle.

In all seriousness just like your horseshit pro life stance you need to stay out of other people’s shit. Ultimately you’re just trying to apply the half assed morality of a 6000 year old work of fiction to the lives of others.
Nice deflection. Blame it all on my religion. Everyone has a world view shaped, to a large extent, by our intellectual environment. I made my choice, as a convert, as an adult. Don’t know about you. In any case, we clearly have completely different ideas about what constitutes human dignity, love, responsibility and our place in society. Nothing new under the sun there.

have a nice night.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Nice deflection. Blame it all on my religion. Everyone has a world view shaped, to a large extent, by our intellectual environment. I made my choice, as a convert, as an adult. Don’t know about you. In any case, we clearly have completely different ideas about what constitutes human dignity, love, responsibility and our place in society. Nothing new under the sun there.

have a nice night.
It’s not a deflection it’s a statement of fact. Also yes we ado have different ideals you seem to believe the route to human dignity is by controlling people instead of giving them the ability to live their lives without having your religious morality forced in them to constrain that freedom.


I firmly believe that you are entitled to live your faith. You are also absolutely not entitled to force those same beliefs on anyone else.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Being in my mid-forties and dating divorced mid-forties women sometimes let me tell you, many are pretty fucking happy that divorce was an option getting out of what turned out to be toxic relationships because of men and the system they believe in, based on the patriarchy and gender roles that religion is a huge part of creating and maintaining.

A side bonus for many is finally getting into good sex positive relationships whether casual or not.
 
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