The official consequences caused by the overturning of Roe thread

[Brainonska511]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/0...unlocked_article_code=1.zU0.vG6-.D_QDdMMxBQfw (gifted article)

For now, they have unanimously upheld access to abortion pills - throwing out that Texas federal judge's ruling on the basis of standing.


Funny thing there with standing - here they accept that the plaintiffs had no standing, but in made up cake and website land with regards to gay rights, standing didn't seem to be a problem...

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/0...unlocked_article_code=1.zU0.vG6-.D_QDdMMxBQfw (gifted article)

For now, they have unanimously upheld access to abortion pills - throwing out that Texas federal judge's ruling on the basis of standing.


Funny thing there with standing - here they accept that the plaintiffs had no standing, but in made up cake and website land with regards to gay rights, standing didn't seem to be a problem...

While that case was absolute bullshit too what they basically did there was endorse the lie and then apply the usual principles of standing to it.

Had they gone along with the lower court rulings here it would have unleashed nationwide chaos because the theory of standing they endorsed was so batshit crazy that it would have enabled anyone to sue over any policy they personally dislike. As an example in the ruling say, a teacher could sue over immigration policy because their classroom might someday become more crowded.

I'm not at all surprised they overturned this as it was one of the most embarrassing rulings I've ever seen. They will wait for a less insane case to try and ban medication abortion.

 

[K1052]

Look the founders decided that one hyper conservative partisan judge in Amarillo should literally run the entire country. I don't make the rules, we just have to respect it.

 

[Brainonska511]

Look the founders decided that one hyper conservative partisan judge in Amarillo should literally run the entire country. I don't make the rules, we just have to respect it.

The Federal Court system could fix it whenever they would like (eg, stricter rules on forum shopping, requiring judge randomization across districts if there are fewer than X judges in an area...). Conservatives on the supreme court like it this way though, since it can be a nice vehicle to bring cherry picked cases in front of the court.

 

[K1052]

The Federal Court system could fix it whenever they would like (eg, stricter rules on forum shopping, requiring judge randomization across districts if there are fewer than X judges in an area...). Conservatives on the supreme court like it this way though, since it can be a nice vehicle to bring cherry picked cases in front of the court.

The output of the 5th is not exactly what they had mostly in mind though even if the policy aligns with their desires. When both Alito and Thomas are like "nah, I'm out" your decision really sucks ass.

 

[Brainonska511]

The output of the 5th is not exactly what they had mostly in mind though even if the policy aligns with their desires. When both Alito and Thomas are like "nah, I'm out" your decision really sucks ass.

Sure, in this case they checked out. But they like the pathway overall. A batshit circuit to feed things to conservative justices.

 

[HomerJS]

Coming to a theater near you if Trump is elected, enforcement of the Comstock Act. It's a zombie law that would ban sending Mifepristone through the mail.

Pub DAs across the country will begin enforcement day one.

 

[Pens1566]

I wouldn't be too ecstatic over the standing ruling today. It's a temporary "win" on a technicality.

Like others have mentioned, there will be a case that makes its way up soon enough where they will rule they way they want to.

 

[MrSquished]

I wouldn't be too ecstatic over the standing ruling today. It's a temporary "win" on a technicality.

Like others have mentioned, there will be a case that makes its way up soon enough where they will rule they way they want to.

Yep. Basically they just said they sued the wrong people, so go back and do it right next time so we can rule better for the right-wing anti-choice party.

 

[Pens1566]

Yep. Basically they just said they sued the wrong people, so go back and do it right next time so we can rule better for the right-wing anti-choice party.

And there is currently another challenge where 3 states (ID, MO, KS) filed essentially the same suit on the grounds of states rights.

We'll see you right back here same time next year ...

 

[nakedfrog]

Well, how... expected.

Texas abortion ban linked to rise in infant and newborn deaths. Is it a 'foreshadow' for other states?

“This might foreshadow what is happening in other states,” said Johns Hopkins public health researcher Alison Gemmill. “Texas is basically a year ahead.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well, how... expected.

Texas abortion ban linked to rise in infant and newborn deaths. Is it a 'foreshadow' for other states?

“This might foreshadow what is happening in other states,” said Johns Hopkins public health researcher Alison Gemmill. “Texas is basically a year ahead.”

www.nbcnews.com

“The specific increase in deaths attributable to congenital anomalies really makes an ironclad link between the change in the law and the terrible outcomes that they’re seeing for infants and families,” said Nan Strauss, senior policy analyst of maternal health at the National Partnership for Women & Families, who was not involved with the research. “The women and families have to suffer through an excruciating later part of pregnancy, knowing that their baby is likely to die in the first weeks of life.”

Feature, not a bug…smh

 

[brycejones]

Well, how... expected.

Texas abortion ban linked to rise in infant and newborn deaths. Is it a 'foreshadow' for other states?

“This might foreshadow what is happening in other states,” said Johns Hopkins public health researcher Alison Gemmill. “Texas is basically a year ahead.”

www.nbcnews.com

It’s just god’s will those babies and parents suffer for his glory.

Glory be his name.

 

[MtnMan]

Well, how... expected.

Texas abortion ban linked to rise in infant and newborn deaths. Is it a 'foreshadow' for other states?

“This might foreshadow what is happening in other states,” said Johns Hopkins public health researcher Alison Gemmill. “Texas is basically a year ahead.”

www.nbcnews.com

Similar studies in many other states are going to produce the same heartbreaking results.

Republicans get their rocks off when people they control suffer the levels of misery dictated by Old Testament beliefs that god gets his cookies off on people suffering.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce

Republicans in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or restricting such cases

www.theguardian.com

More planning to further restrict or all out abandon body autonomy for women

 

[HomerJS]

Conservative US lawmakers are pushing for an end to no-fault divorce

Republicans in Louisiana, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Texas have discussed eliminating or restricting such cases

www.theguardian.com

More planning to further restrict or all out abandon body autonomy for women

Every Republican must be required to remarry their first wife.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Every Republican must be required to remarry their first wife.

I wouldn’t put any women thru that. I would venture to say women’s right to leave someone for any reason or not reason at all makes conservatives irate. How dare that uppity female not want to be near them!

Allowing women to divorce for any or no reason at all just makes sense. And men for that reason as well.

Why force people to stay together because conservatives feelings are hurt if they don’t?

Are our vows to be managed by the small government some more?

If states start to roll this back, expect marriages to dwindle because people won’t take the risk of being saddled with someone they don’t want to be married to

 

[HomerJS]

I wouldn’t put any women thru that. I would venture to say women’s right to leave someone for any reason or not reason at all makes conservatives irate. How dare that uppity female not want to be near them!

Allowing women to divorce for any or no reason at all just makes sense. And men for that reason as well.

Why force people to stay together because conservatives feelings are hurt if they don’t?

Are our vows to be managed by the small government some more?

If states start to roll this back, expect marriages to dwindle because people won’t take the risk of being saddled with someone they don’t want to be married to

Republican base is so fucked up JD Vance managed to win an election telling women they need to stay in abusive marriages.

The Ohio Republican and Hillbilly Elegy author said that "one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was convincing people in "unhappy" or "even violent" marriages that getting divorced would "make people happier in the long term,"

 

[Stokely]

JFC....well, that's a great way to see the number of marriages in this country take a massive nosedive. Anyone with any self-respect would be nuts to get married with that kind of 1600's level bullshit in place. Not that I care how many people are married.

 

[ch33zw1z]

JFC....well, that's a great way to see the number of marriages in this country take a massive nosedive. Anyone with any self-respect would be nuts to get married with that kind of 1600's level bullshit in place. Not that I care how many people are married.

GOP: restrict abortion even for rape, restrict contraception, laud child marriages, remove no fault divorce, threaten to murder women who have abortions….what should we expect next

1. Arranged marriages
2. Force marriages to your rapist

It’s really a toss up

 

[nakedfrog]

Republican base is so fucked up JD Vance managed to win an election telling women they need to stay in abusive marriages.

Republicans look at this and think "that's terrible, we need to undo this"

Divorce Laws and Family Violence

www.nber.org

For example, there was a large decline in the number of women committing suicide following the introduction of unilateral divorce, but no similar decline for men. States that passed unilateral divorce laws saw total female suicide decline by around 20 percent in the long run. The authors also find a large decline in domestic violence for both men and women following adoption of unilateral divorce. Finally, the evidence suggests that unilateral divorce led to a decline in females murdered by their partners, while the data reveal no discernible effects for homicide against men.