The Official E3 2014 thread

[digiram]

I'm not feeling it, but it could be one of those games that you have to try for it to click for you.

I honestly don't know what it is about, which is maybe why i'm not excited. The trailer didn't do much in the way of explaining how it was anything beyond a co-op 'sci-fi' shooter.

I'm digging it so far. It sounds like a mixture of borderlands + diablo 3 or something, and I love both of those.

I'm not sure how they will be balancing pvp because it seems you can bring your character into the arena thing. So, someone that plays more and has better gear wil always have the upper hand.

Looking forward to see and hear more about it.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Its based more on skill trees and such I think. Bionic powerups etc

It is also much more open world than any borderlands game.

 

[sze5003]

Yea I hope I get a beta email soon for destiny. Assuming the alpha only lasts 72 hours anyway.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Supposed to hear something today if you get in or not. So far I haven't gotten anything but they said you will know no later than midnight pacific. So if by midnight you don't get the message, you didn't get in I guess.

 

[sze5003]

Yea they said by 3pm est time they will start sending them out for alpha. If I do get in and I like it I'll pre-order so I can play the beta in July.

 

[Dumac]

I'm digging it so far. It sounds like a mixture of borderlands + diablo 3 or something, and I love both of those.

I'm not sure how they will be balancing pvp because it seems you can bring your character into the arena thing. So, someone that plays more and has better gear wil always have the upper hand.

Looking forward to see and hear more about it.

Its based more on skill trees and such I think. Bionic powerups etc

It is also much more open world than any borderlands game.

See, I just assumed it was a sci-fi FPS with co-op. I didn't know it had any RPG elements. Does it have randomized dungeons or loot? All the trailers I've seen just show people shooting lasers at aliens, hence my lack of excitement.

EDIT: Maybe this trailer is more informative? I'll try to watch it later today.

 

[sze5003]

See, I just assumed it was a sci-fi FPS with co-op. I didn't know it had any RPG elements. Does it have randomized dungeons or loot? All the trailers I've seen just show people shooting lasers at aliens, hence my lack of excitement.

I believe it has areas with loot and other items that come up as quests when you are roaming around.

 

[Lil Frier]

Destiny is a tough sell for me. It seems VERY reliant on having others to play with. As I am the only person I know who has and play a Bone right now, that's a problem. That, and the Halo compilation is out shortly after Destiny, and I KNOW that will suck the life out of every other game.

 

[sze5003]

You can still play on your own or many times you just join others when you need to go in a quest that requires more people. I believe the division will feel the same.

 

[cmdrdredd]

See, I just assumed it was a sci-fi FPS with co-op. I didn't know it had any RPG elements. Does it have randomized dungeons or loot? All the trailers I've seen just show people shooting lasers at aliens, hence my lack of excitement.

EDIT: Maybe this trailer is more informative? I'll try to watch it later today.

Basically from what I know...the whole world is your playground. You can go solo and do various quests and missions (there is a deep story with lots of lore from what I've heard), or you can team up. As you roam around you may happen upon someone and you can join up to explore or complete an event to push the story along. You gain experience that allows you to edit your character a bit. There is something of a loot system as well. There are different armor, weapons, and other items. They not only boost attack and defense but your class stats as well.

You never fight for loot.

Enemies drop loot for each character that's customized to them. You and your co-op partners will pick up loot that's appropriate for your class, including ammunition that's specific to the weapon you're using. Players will be able to wield three different types of guns: standard (hand cannons and auto rifles), special (shotguns and sniper rifles) and heavy (rocket launchers and heavy machine guns). Each of those groups contains sub-categories, such as pulse rifles and assault rifles in the auto rifles field. All weapons are open to all classes.

They did also say that there are more weapons in Destiny than any game Bungie has done previously including Halo. Bungie has been releasing developer diaries much like they did for Halo in the past, for months now. There's a lot of info in those diary entries.


Edit: Just got my code for Alpha. Downloading now.

 

[Rage187]

I have 30 mins left for download. I'm rolling a Lock. Going Firesinger spec.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Nobody is talking about Rainbow Six Siege? It's easily my most anticipated game after seeing that Hostage multiplayer mode.

 

[Lil Frier]

It looked OK, nothing mind-blowing. I mean, I'd say it was a better-looking version of that game mode from C-S. I still like The Division more, but Siege might be my top FPS until Guardians, and it definitely adds credibility to Ubisoft, who seems to be killing it every time they announce something (The Division, The Crew, Unity, Siege, Watch Dogs).

If Hardline wasn't EA and pro-PS4, I might prefer it, but screw EA and their decision to box out the One for the beta.

 

[blurredvision]

Nobody is talking about Rainbow Six Siege? It's easily my most anticipated game after seeing that Hostage multiplayer mode.

I watched the Siege video and while it looked awesome, there's no way a match goes like that online unless you have friends that you party up with and coordinate with. Even then, things in that video are a bit silly and just isn't realistic.

First, it seems like you're going to send in a drone every time, so wouldn't the bad guy team be looking for it all the time? In the video, they acted completely oblivious that it could be there. Second, in a real match, players aren't going to go into a room and stay there, they'll be running all over the place, so the drone is pointless to for marking positions, only to find the objective. Third, there were two or three instances of gun fights that lasted entirely too long because the people playing either sucked or were missing on purpose to heighten the tension. In a real match, somebody is going to die very quickly, there won't be any cool movie-like shootout. Fourth, there were a few instances where the player had a bead on the enemy but instead of chasing him, they just stopped. Players aren't going to do this, they will chase them down and kill them. Fifth, there's too much wasted time. They only really bother with escorting the hostage when the match is pretty much timed out, they could've done that well before. It's not like the house is huge. It's fake tension and won't play out like that in a real match.

So overall, cool looking game, but I don't see matches going like that at all. As I watched, I just kept saying, "People aren't going to do that online."

Here's the video for those who haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlvYh0h63k

 

[cmdrdredd]

It looked OK, nothing mind-blowing. I mean, I'd say it was a better-looking version of that game mode from C-S. I still like The Division more, but Siege might be my top FPS until Guardians, and it definitely adds credibility to Ubisoft, who seems to be killing it every time they announce something (The Division, The Crew, Unity, Siege, Watch Dogs).

If Hardline wasn't EA and pro-PS4, I might prefer it, but screw EA and their decision to box out the One for the beta.

Screw EA? So we should all be mad that Sony paid EA to get console exclusivity on the Hardline beta but when MS paid EA to keep Titanfall completely off the ps4 it is ok? EA is pro money...not pro ps4 dude. Your reasoning doesn't hold up. They weren't making any money by releasing a public beta so if someone wanted to pay for their console to get exclusive access to that beta why not take it? I don't fault them.


After watching the Rainbow six video my impression is pretty much the same as blurredvision. That was too fake.

 

[Lil Frier]

I watched the Siege video and while it looked awesome, there's no way a match goes like that online unless you have friends that you party up with and coordinate with. Even then, things in that video are a bit silly and just isn't realistic.

So overall, cool looking game, but I don't see matches going like that at all. As I watched, I just kept saying, "People aren't going to do that online."

Here's the video for those who haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlvYh0h63k

The Division was the same way. GO watch the E3 demo they had, it was terrible. The game looks awesome, but Ubisoft does the WORST job picking people to do demos and/or choosing how to present games. I get they're going squad-based with their shooters and trying to promote that within the demo, but the dialogue and behavior is unrealistic, and they should consider that before presenting that games in that manner.

Screw EA? So we should all be mad that Sony paid EA to get console exclusivity on the Hardline beta but when MS paid EA to keep Titanfall completely off the ps4 it is ok? EA is pro money...not pro ps4 dude. Your reasoning doesn't hold up. They weren't making any money by releasing a public beta so if someone wanted to pay for their console to get exclusive access to that beta why not take it? I don't fault them.

I didn't say I was OK with the Titanfall exclusivity. I'm not big on it, but at the same time, I'm less-likely to be annoyed in that kind of a situation because it doesn't exclude/punish me because of my console choice. I won't get to try BF:H before release (unless the One gets the beta at a later date). It's not necessarily a "screw EA" in the same manner as the one I give for their Origin account requirements in One games that don't make ANY use of it (NFS: Rivals, Madden, FIFA). It's just that I'm less likely to want a game when I know that I'm going to be paying for a lesser experience.

Destiny is a similar monster. I don't want it as badly when I know that I won't get beta access as early, and there's the potential that it will get exclusive content. Bungie makes it sound like they prefer the PS4 (not to say that's wrong), and it makes me question how serious their support on the One would be, which makes me hesitant to buy it.

In all honesty, while I don't necessarily like that Titanfall is a third-party exclusive (think that should be limited to in-house stuff, or at least developer-/publish-wide exclusivity), I consider that preferable to partially-exclusive games. I can't stand that they'd release a game for $60 on both (or more) systems, yet give extra content in one. If you're going to put more content on one platform than the other, charge less for the lesser experience, or don't even bother, IMO.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I didn't say I was OK with the Titanfall exclusivity. I'm not big on it, but at the same time, I'm less-likely to be annoyed in that kind of a situation because it doesn't exclude/punish me because of my console choice. I won't get to try BF:H before release (unless the One gets the beta at a later date). It's not necessarily a "screw EA" in the same manner as the one I give for their Origin account requirements in One games that don't make ANY use of it (NFS: Rivals, Madden, FIFA). It's just that I'm less likely to want a game when I know that I'm going to be paying for a lesser experience.
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So you think its OK for MS to pay to get exclusivity because it doesn't hurt you but as soon as you are affected because Sony does it..you call foul. This is just something that happens in the industry and isn't new by any means. I have no problem with it because I have come to terms with it. You are of course entitled to whatever opinion you want about it.

I think you have to link your PSN to origin on ps4 too so its not really different from xbox if that's the case.

As for bungie they used to be controlled by MS. I think part of it is because of that for sure. Activision is giving them a lot of control and freedom on their game. I really do believe they are doing a lot of things on the ps4 because of their history with MS. I have nothing to base that on but that is my feeling.

 

[sze5003]

Honestly bf hardline feels more like a mod. It's fun but doesn't look as good as bf4 and the controls are not as solid as bf4. They feel lighter for some reason. Unless single player is grand, and I heard visceral is good at sp, I'm not sure I would buy it on release.

Destiny on the other hand I found more fun in that alpha than in hardline. I will probably pick it up in September.

 

[Blitzvogel]

I watched the Siege video and while it looked awesome, there's no way a match goes like that online unless you have friends that you party up with and coordinate with. Even then, things in that video are a bit silly and just isn't realistic.

I agree with everything you said. There were plenty of opportunities for the R6 team to have put headshots into the terrorists but clearly the video was staged to demonstrate what could be done in the game. With KB & M on the PC, the engagements will be fast and furious, with no gamepad fumbling. I also have a feeling that the Ts will get some sort of counter to the drone or the ability to block door-floor gaps.

What got me really excited were the gameplay possibilities and the technology of the game like the destructive walls and doors. Also, did anyone else notice how realistic the hostie's hair was? I wouldn't be surprised if it was TressFX. The PS4 and Xbone use AMD GCN afterall.

 

[sze5003]

Yea siege looks awesome. I really want to be able to play that with my friends if they get it on ps4. Although most times it would not play out like that video at all.

 

[Lil Frier]

So you think its OK for MS to pay to get exclusivity because it doesn't hurt you but as soon as you are affected because Sony does it..you call foul. This is just something that happens in the industry and isn't new by any means. I have no problem with it because I have come to terms with it. You are of course entitled to whatever opinion you want about it.

I think you have to link your PSN to origin on ps4 too so its not really different from xbox if that's the case.

As for bungie they used to be controlled by MS. I think part of it is because of that for sure. Activision is giving them a lot of control and freedom on their game. I really do believe they are doing a lot of things on the ps4 because of their history with MS. I have nothing to base that on but that is my feeling.

Before I even read the rest of your reply and respond to it, I have to stop immediately and ask if you care to read my entire post.

You say: "So you think its OK for MS to pay to get exclusivity . . ."

What that was in-response to: "I didn't say I was OK with the Titanfall exclusivity. I'm not big on it . . ."

I said I don't like it. How is that hard to comprehend? Though not due to the exclusivity license, I stated in the first place that I ONLY got Titanfall because it was free, and that I would never have bought it.

And again, exclusivity licenses aren't something I like. However, I'd rather be locked out of a game/franchise ENTIRELY than be asked to pay $60 for a game with less content than another console's version. Putting exclusive content on PS4 is part of why I never got NBA 2K14. The content was trivial, but I didn't like that I was being asked to pay the same amount when they chose to keep content off of the One.

With the Bungie stuff, I've thought about and agree with your point in the past. They really CAN'T do any deals with Microsoft here because people will say Sony's an afterthought getting scraps, seeing as they come from a Microsoft-exclusive franchise in Halo. Putting out PS4-exclusive stuff (not sure if early beta access is the only thing or not) helps to show that they legitimately care about Sony fans with this game. Still, if there is exclusive PS4 content that I don't get on the One, and I have to pay the same price for less content, that's going to rub me the wrong way, and I'll probably skip Destiny.

In reality, I've pretty-much already decided to skip Destiny. It didn't blow me away, and there are a lot of other games I like more coming out at the end of this year. For example, I don't want to buy this, play for 2 months, then have the Halo compilation come out and make that $52 investment a waste.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't see how it is different than missing out on a mission because you didn't pre-order from GameStop. Or when DLC for a game is on Xbox for 3 months before you can get it on PlayStation or PC. To me it is the same thing and is something that happens because developers and publishers like money.

What I feel Bungie is doing is not so much catering to PlayStation because people will accuse them of bias etc. Rather that they are silently giving MS the finger in their own way. Call me crazy but I get that vibe.

 

[purbeast0]

and calling a video game purchase an "investment" is just wrong. i do not approve!

 

[cmdrdredd]

and calling a video game purchase an "investment" is just wrong. i do not approve!

Hah...maybe if you are a hardcore collector or something. Definitely not how I feel about gaming.

 

[Lil Frier]

I don't see how it is different than missing out on a mission because you didn't pre-order from GameStop. Or when DLC for a game is on Xbox for 3 months before you can get it on PlayStation or PC. To me it is the same thing and is something that happens because developers and publishers like money.

What I feel Bungie is doing is not so much catering to PlayStation because people will accuse them of bias etc. Rather that they are silently giving MS the finger in their own way. Call me crazy but I get that vibe.

Oh, I hate the pre-order crap as well. At least they USUALLY offer something for each store (I think). Best Buy gave me something for Watch Dogs, but I didn't know it, nor did I ever get it (allegedly they e-mailed a code to my dad's e-mail, but I know he doesn't check that).

I felt the way you said about Bungie when I first heard about the early beta access, but IDK on that now. I mean, it's hard for them to have a bone to pick with Microsoft when they gave Bungie a platform and funding to become what they are now. I can get wanting to expand to other audiences, but Microsoft did quite a lot for them.