The official Hurricane Gustav Thread

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Eli
Isn't it moving kinda fast? = less overall damage and flooding?

It doesn't look very well organized? Is it going through an eyewall regen cycle?

Dry air is getting sucked into it.

The NE quadrant, which is usually the very worst part, is actually pretty weak.

What? Who said that?

Gustav 8-31-08 7pm.jpg

It's tightening up, just becoming a smaller still very powerful compact storm.

Very common to get compact when forward speed picks up like it has.

It's moving at nearly 20 mph.

Also don't forget to add that 20 mph to the overall wind speed.

So if they are say it's 115mph now it's 135 mph effective force.

where did you hear that? i've lived on the coast my entire life and have never heard that.

Hurricane Basics


The winds around the hurricane's eye are moving in a counterclockwise fashion.

At Point A, the hurricane winds are nearly in line with the steering wind, adding to the strength of the winds.

For example, if the steering currents are 30 mph and the average hurricane winds are 100 mph, the wind speed would be 130 mph at Point A.

On the other hand, the winds at Point B are moving opposite those of the steering wind and therefore slow to 70 mph (100 - 30 mph).

but like CallMeJoe stated, they already take this into account when they release the wind speed information every 3 hours.

You guys go ahead and believe that.

 

[Queasy]

Some good news.

The latest prediction of reduced Hurricane Gustav storm surge should be good news for the Industrial Canal and St. Bernard Parish levees, but may still potentially put water over deficient levees on the west bank of Jefferson Parish, the Army Corps of Engineers? ranking officer said Sunday. ?

Just 24 hours ago?predicted surges at landfall ranged from 20 to 25 feet along the coast. They have since fallen to a range of 12 to 16 feet.

The rebuilt levees are still in danger but not as dire.

 

[allisolm]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Also don't forget to add that 20 mph to the overall wind speed.

So if they are say it's 115mph now it's 135 mph effective force.

where did you hear that? i've lived on the coast my entire life and have never heard that.

Hurricane Basics


The winds around the hurricane's eye are moving in a counterclockwise fashion.

At Point A, the hurricane winds are nearly in line with the steering wind, adding to the strength of the winds.

For example, if the steering currents are 30 mph and the average hurricane winds are 100 mph, the wind speed would be 130 mph at Point A.

On the other hand, the winds at Point B are moving opposite those of the steering wind and therefore slow to 70 mph (100 - 30 mph).

but like CallMeJoe stated, they already take this into account when they release the wind speed information every 3 hours.

You guys go ahead and believe that.

Well, if you expect us to believe the part YOU quoted for us, then you should expect us to believe the sentence that immediately followed your quote:
"Incidentally, NationalHuricane Center forecasts take this effect into account in their official wind estimates."

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Also don't forget to add that 20 mph to the overall wind speed.

So if they are say it's 115mph now it's 135 mph effective force.

where did you hear that? i've lived on the coast my entire life and have never heard that.

Hurricane Basics


The winds around the hurricane's eye are moving in a counterclockwise fashion.

At Point A, the hurricane winds are nearly in line with the steering wind, adding to the strength of the winds.

For example, if the steering currents are 30 mph and the average hurricane winds are 100 mph, the wind speed would be 130 mph at Point A.

On the other hand, the winds at Point B are moving opposite those of the steering wind and therefore slow to 70 mph (100 - 30 mph).

but like CallMeJoe stated, they already take this into account when they release the wind speed information every 3 hours.

You guys go ahead and believe that.

Well, if you expect us to believe the part YOU quoted for us, then you should expect us to believe the sentence that immediately followed your quote:
"Incidentally, NationalHuricane Center forecasts take this effect into account in their official wind estimates."

lolololz

 

[sciwizam]

Idiots in Houma, LA drinking outside and live streaming for hours: http://www.gregledet.net/hurricam/hurricam.html


Taking calls, giving interviews etc. Darwin Award Candidates.

 

[cthulhu]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

You are correct, sir! It snuck up on us. It's already past New Orleans. I guess that there aren't going to be any pics until tomorrow morning unless something bad goes down. It's dark out.

As for the wind thing, I've never heard that either (that doesn't mean it's not true), but I have seen and been told that the wind forecasts are at 35m.

Yea, that first feeder band was intense and fast. My neighbor two houses down left a canopy up in his backyard and lost it when that feeder band blew through. I can't believe he didn't take it down.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: cthulhu
Yea, that first feeder band was intense and fast. My neighbor two houses down left a canopy up in his backyard and lost it when that feeder band blew through. I can't believe he didn't take it down.

Yeah, that was a bad thing to leave up.

If nothing else, this storm gave me a chance to test drive about a dozen new and used vehicles when I helped a friend move the cars out of his dealership. The Impala is not too bad.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: cthulhu
Yea, that first feeder band was intense and fast. My neighbor two houses down left a canopy up in his backyard and lost it when that feeder band blew through. I can't believe he didn't take it down.

Yeah, that was a bad thing to leave up.

If nothing else, this storm gave me a chance to test drive about a dozen new and used vehicles when I helped a friend move the cars out of his dealership. The Impala is not too bad.

Good that you're looking at the glass as half-full.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Also don't forget to add that 20 mph to the overall wind speed.

So if they are say it's 115mph now it's 135 mph effective force.

where did you hear that? i've lived on the coast my entire life and have never heard that.

Hurricane Basics


The winds around the hurricane's eye are moving in a counterclockwise fashion.

At Point A, the hurricane winds are nearly in line with the steering wind, adding to the strength of the winds.

For example, if the steering currents are 30 mph and the average hurricane winds are 100 mph, the wind speed would be 130 mph at Point A.

On the other hand, the winds at Point B are moving opposite those of the steering wind and therefore slow to 70 mph (100 - 30 mph).

but like CallMeJoe stated, they already take this into account when they release the wind speed information every 3 hours.

You guys go ahead and believe that.

Well, if you expect us to believe the part YOU quoted for us, then you should expect us to believe the sentence that immediately followed your quote:
"Incidentally, NationalHuricane Center forecasts take this effect into account in their official wind estimates."

Like I said if you are at Point A you go ahead and believe that.

 

[Regs]

Well if a Tornado or a wall of water hits your house, I think the max sustained winds become an after thought.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Regs
Well if a Tornado or a wall of water hits your house, I think the max sustained winds become an after thought.

Pretty much

This will be a test for the West Bank and Cut Off area.

 

[ICRS]

Yep looks like NOLA is spared. The evacuations where for nothing. Guess it is best to be safe than sory.

 

[Aztech]

Originally posted by: ICRS
Yep looks like NOLA is spared. The evacuations where for nothing. Guess it is best to be safe than sory.

What the hell are you talking about?

Anyway, thanks to Chaotic for starting this thread. My house is in Slidell, LA (45 minutes NorthEast of NO) and got 5 feet of floodwater during Katrina. It took 2 years to get back in it. I lived in 2 different FEMA trailers and a one bedroom apartment. I better not flood again with this one, or I'll be looking for a new place. At least I'm fully insured this time though. I still wish I had cut down that last Pine tree that was left after Katrina...

I'm out of country right now, but my wife evacuated all the way to Tennessee somewhere, since she didn't reserve a place early enough. I haven't talked to her yet, but I'm guessing it was another evacuation from Hell with our 3-year old and two cats.

Good luck to me!

 

[Mill]

Chaotic, how are things? Looks like you are going to be quite fine.

 

[Mill]

Gustav is going to make landfall a good bit weaker than expected. Thank God. I am going to sleep. I have been running radar all night.

You can check out a couple of my friends down chasing on the coast (I didn't get to go
)

The Matt Grantham or Dennis Sherrod/David Neal cameras

 

[cthulhu]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

This will be a test for the West Bank and Cut Off area.

They started closing the Harvey flood gate around 5am in anticipation of storm surge.

Originally posted by: Mill
Chaotic, how are things? Looks like you are going to be quite fine.

I can't speak for him but the feeder bands are keeping it breezy on the westbank.:roll:

 

[Mill]

Tornado threat is steadily increasing for AL/MS/FL Gulfcoast.

My friend meteorologist David Neal is about to do a live report from LA.

http://www.severestudios.com/c...rod&secid=pSgRrxYPFzwE

 

[LeadMagnet]

FACTS:
1: ocean tempretures are raising.
2: melting ice making ocean levels raise.
3: New Orleans and is already below sealevel.
4: New Orleans continues to sink into the ground.

All this means that there will be more frequent and more severe hurricanes. If the ocean wants New Orleans, then give the ocean New Orleans and stop trying to stuff dollar bills into broken levees.

Abandon the whole damn region and move to higher ground if you want to live there, go ahead but do not ask for or expect a$$istance.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Mill
Chaotic, how are things? Looks like you are going to be quite fine.

Yeah, it's not bad here. Very windy, of course, but nothing too bad. We've had a couple of power flickers since I woke up at 6, but other than that we're cool.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Originally posted by: Mill
Chaotic, how are things? Looks like you are going to be quite fine.

Yeah, it's not bad here. Very windy, of course, but nothing too bad. We've had a couple of power flickers since I woke up at 6, but other than that we're cool.

Tornado threat is really going to increase for you guys. SPC just issued a watch until 4PM for a large portion of the Southern Gulf Coast. Mobile CWA is getting ROCKED right now.

 

[dmcowen674]

Northern portion of eye is now over Grand Isle/Port Fuchon area. The LOOP is getting a direct hit.

 

[Mill]

My friend's Matt Grantham and Brett Adair have live video of the storm surge in Gulfport including cars being swept away:

http://live.severestudios.com/moderator.asx

 

[Mill]

Better link:


http://www.severestudios.com/c...ham&secid=pSgRrxYPFzwE

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: allisolm

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Also don't forget to add that 20 mph to the overall wind speed.

So if they are say it's 115mph now it's 135 mph effective force.

where did you hear that? i've lived on the coast my entire life and have never heard that.

Hurricane Basics


The winds around the hurricane's eye are moving in a counterclockwise fashion.

At Point A, the hurricane winds are nearly in line with the steering wind, adding to the strength of the winds.

For example, if the steering currents are 30 mph and the average hurricane winds are 100 mph, the wind speed would be 130 mph at Point A.

On the other hand, the winds at Point B are moving opposite those of the steering wind and therefore slow to 70 mph (100 - 30 mph).

but like CallMeJoe stated, they already take this into account when they release the wind speed information every 3 hours.

You guys go ahead and believe that.

Well, if you expect us to believe the part YOU quoted for us, then you should expect us to believe the sentence that immediately followed your quote:
"Incidentally, NationalHuricane Center forecasts take this effect into account in their official wind estimates."

Like I said if you are at Point A you go ahead and believe that.

okay so you only believe part of the article you quoted?

 

[dbk]

Some overlapping at the industrial canal near the 9th ward.