The Official iPhone 4 Thread

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Oct 19, 2000
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I thought it would be, but it hasn't bothered me one bit and I think it reflects a sort of flawed understanding of how multitasking works on the iPhone.

The bar that comes up with the double-click of the home button isn't the 'multitasking bar.' It is, rather, the quicklaunch bar. It just has your most recently used apps. *Every* app (if coded for it), uses multitasking. So if you launch something from the home screen, then hit the home button once, and launch something else, then hit the home button once again, and launch your original app, it will launch from its multitasking state.

It is not as if you need to do the double-click home button deal to somehow 'access' multitasking. It is actually a really slick implementation, and basically it is like all of the apps on my phone are now always loaded, yet they dont use any resources so my battery life is really, really, good.

I understand how it's implemented, just not the practice of using it. So you're saying that if I open an app from the regular page of icons instead of bringing up the double-click home menu, it will still bring me to where I left off (assuming this app supports it, of course)? If I could completely skip the quick-select menu, then I would, since I'd eventually have 20 apps "open" and scrolling through them 4 at a time would be annoying, as well as having to actually "close" them when I wanted to clean it out.
 

TheWart

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I understand how it's implemented, just not the practice of using it. So you're saying that if I open an app from the regular page of icons instead of bringing up the double-click home menu, it will still bring me to where I left off (assuming this app supports it, of course)? If I could completely skip the quick-select menu, then I would, since I'd eventually have 20 apps "open" and scrolling through them 4 at a time would be annoying, as well as having to actually "close" them when I wanted to clean it out.

Yes, this is correct.

Here is a good article explaining it in a manner better than I did:
Here's the long and short of it. When you are running an app in iOS 4 and you press the Home button once to leave it, the app doesn't quit. Instead, it goes into suspended animation, like the scientists in cryogenic hibernation in "2001: A Space Odyssey." The app simply stops receiving events from the system; its run loop isn't looping. The app is both backgrounded and inert; but it is still running, in the sense that its resources and interface are still present, so that it doesn't have to be relaunched from scratch in order to resume. That way, when you come back to that app, no matter how, the app can simply pick up doing what it was doing when you left off, instantly.

This behavior is fast app switching, and is most of what Apple calls multitasking on iOS 4. (It is not the whole of iOS 4 multitasking, because some apps with specialized functionality will register with the system to be allowed to go into suspended animation with one thread still active; such functionality is strictly limited to playing audio, location detection, and voice-over-IP. But in this article I'm not concerned with those situations.)

http://db.tidbits.com/article/11378
 

nace186

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Question to those that have the iphone. Does it rattle when you shake it with power button facing your ear?
 

Paperlantern

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So, the double tap of the home button is virtually useless? Hot. Gotta love Apple. At least before i could set it to open an app.
 

TheWart

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So, the double tap of the home button is virtually useless? Hot. Gotta love Apple. At least before i could set it to open an app.

Not useless at all. You get instant access to your most recently used apps. Like alt-tab on the computer, unless you find that useless as well.
 

AMDZen

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So, the double tap of the home button is virtually useless? Hot. Gotta love Apple. At least before i could set it to open an app.

Wow you really are a hater. Just sell your iPhone and get rid of it since the multitasking and everything is so useless.
 
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Looks like I got lucky and managed to snag a 16GB version on lunch. A friend here at work got to one of the local at&t stores this morning about 7:15am, got in line, and got one of the last 16GB available. The two other stores in town sold out of the 16GB units quickly. However, one of them told me over the phone that they were expecting another shipment in around noon, and they were taking reserves on those units. I didn't feel like taking a half-hour out of work to drive down there, so I just figured I'd go without.

Lunchtime hit and it's really nice out today, so I drove down to the store my friend got his just to see if they were also taking reserves on an afternoon shipment. To my surprise, they had just gotten their shipment and I was able to get one. Pretty lucky timing all around. It seems like all of the stores have a healthy stock of 32GB units, but everyone is running out of the 16GB.

Oh well, can't wait to get home and get all my apps synced up. The screen is absolutely freaking amazing, it's unreal. Definitely looks fake if you didn't know any better. I also tried replicating the antenna problem, but can't get it to drop any bars whatsoever no matter how long I cusp my palm around the bottom-left corner.
 

TheWart

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Looks like I got lucky and managed to snag a 16GB version on lunch. A friend here at work got to one of the local at&t stores this morning about 7:15am, got in line, and got one of the last 16GB available. The two other stores in town sold out of the 16GB units quickly. However, one of them told me over the phone that they were expecting another shipment in around noon, and they were taking reserves on those units. I didn't feel like taking a half-hour out of work to drive down there, so I just figured I'd go without.

Lunchtime hit and it's really nice out today, so I drove down to the store my friend got his just to see if they were also taking reserves on an afternoon shipment. To my surprise, they had just gotten their shipment and I was able to get one. Pretty lucky timing all around. It seems like all of the stores have a healthy stock of 32GB units, but everyone is running out of the 16GB.

Oh well, can't wait to get home and get all my apps synced up. The screen is absolutely freaking amazing, it's unreal. Definitely looks fake if you didn't know any better. I also tried replicating the antenna problem, but can't get it to drop any bars whatsoever no matter how long I cusp my palm around the bottom-left corner.

Nice! Glad to hear yours appears to be working with zero problems. The real fun begins once you get all your apps on it and you get to see how fast everything is and how great it looks. Enjoy!
 
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On my old 3G that was upgraded to 4.0, they added an option to the general settings that let you control the behavior of double-clicking the home button. Since there was no multitasking on the 3G, they had options like going to your favorites screen, to the search screen, etc. I'm sad to see that's not available on the iP4. I'd much rather have double-clicking the home button go to my phone favorites rather than the multitasking bar.
 

jonesthewine

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I'm curious too. I think it is coming from the headphone jack. I'll go to the apple store next month and see if they'll exchange it.

Rattle solved...it is from the buttons on the bumper.

Remove bumper from phone, shake phone, no rattle.

Shake bumper, hear rattle.
 

InverseOfNeo

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Has anyone else not been happy about battery life?

I used to have the original iphone and it seemed like I got better battery life on that. I expected better than what I had before.
 

ubercaffeinated

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Has anyone else not been happy about battery life?

I used to have the original iphone and it seemed like I got better battery life on that. I expected better than what I had before.

hmm i'm coming from a 3g and a 3gs, and the battery life on the 4 has been pretty stellar in comparison. this is with push and wifi enabled. how often are you forced to recharge?
 

TheWart

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Has anyone else not been happy about battery life?

I used to have the original iphone and it seemed like I got better battery life on that. I expected better than what I had before.

Did you restore from your old phone? I restored from my 3G and while my battery life with my iPhone 4 was better, it wasn't as stellar as some people are getting. I bit the bullet and restored/clean installed iOS 4 on my phone and the battery life is definitely better now.

I am currently at:
Usage: 3h52m
Standby: 1day, 0h

Battery life: 36%

This is almost exclusively heavy 3G usage (talking/browsing and streaming with the hulu app).

In addition, some users are reporting better battery life after cycling it a few times (charging it to 100% and then draining down to 0%).
 

MichaelHudson

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The 3G had the option to change the home button before 4.0 . Mine has been set to open up the camera for a while.
 

InverseOfNeo

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Did you restore from your old phone? I restored from my 3G and while my battery life with my iPhone 4 was better, it wasn't as stellar as some people are getting. I bit the bullet and restored/clean installed iOS 4 on my phone and the battery life is definitely better now.

I am currently at:
Usage: 3h52m
Standby: 1day, 0h

Battery life: 36%

This is almost exclusively heavy 3G usage (talking/browsing and streaming with the hulu app).

In addition, some users are reporting better battery life after cycling it a few times (charging it to 100% and then draining down to 0%).

I'm restoring it now. I hope it gets better. So far its been disappointing.
 

ubercaffeinated

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Dec 1, 2002
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Did you restore from your old phone? I restored from my 3G and while my battery life with my iPhone 4 was better, it wasn't as stellar as some people are getting. I bit the bullet and restored/clean installed iOS 4 on my phone and the battery life is definitely better now.

I am currently at:
Usage: 3h52m
Standby: 1day, 0h

Battery life: 36%

This is almost exclusively heavy 3G usage (talking/browsing and streaming with the hulu app).

In addition, some users are reporting better battery life after cycling it a few times (charging it to 100% and then draining down to 0%).


this is what my current battery life looks like after one full charge from saturday. i plugged it in once briefly on sunday to install a game.
 

TheWart

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^^

Yea, I ran mine down last night and my figures came out pretty close to yours. I am really liking the new battery.
 
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