A8 7600 45W/65W=119$
Celeron G18xx 35W/54W=42-52$
An i3 4130(T) 35W/54W is 125$.
Kaveri is simply way to expensive. And you only keep showing how huge the AMD tax is. AMD lost the entry/value end long ago.
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Stop shifting the salient point here, I am not talking about the 7850k at retail price, that is irrelevant to the volume seller that the A8-7600 will be.
A8-7600 and related lower models make Celeron and Pentium irrelevant.
Again, lets look at specific target markets.
The Intel tax is still apparent below, and the two A8 systems (since A8 is so important when comparing A4 and Celeron) still offer a better value (more RAM on a 64 bit OS AND better graphics) vs those i3's.
Oh, and fuk all to any benchmarks that will be thrown up. I am only talking value based on a non-biased recommendation.
A8 7600 45W/65W=119$
Celeron G18xx 35W/54W=42-52$
An i3 4130(T) 35W/54W is 125$.
Kaveri is simply way to expensive. And you only keep showing how huge the AMD tax is. AMD lost the entry/value end long ago.
A8 7600 45W/65W=119$
Celeron G18xx 35W/54W=42-52$
An i3 4130(T) 35W/54W is 125$.
Kaveri is simply way to expensive. And you only keep showing how huge the AMD tax is. AMD lost the entry/value end long ago.
How about you throw in a graphics card similar to what Kaveri has then see what price you get.
Compared to the 7600?
Its not getting any better.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...344&CatId=7387
42+63=105 vs 119$.
You can for just 3$ more than the 7600 get the R7 250 with GDDR5 as well.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...342&CatId=7387
Compared to the 7600?
Its not getting any better.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...344&CatId=7387
42+63=105 vs 119$.
You can for just 3$ more than the 7600 get the R7 250 with GDDR5 as well.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...342&CatId=7387
How about you throw in a graphics card similar to what Kaveri has then see what price you get.
Bottom line=Less performance,higher price.
board+7850K=around $290 ( using onboard gfx )
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116946 $130 chip
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138384 $60 mobo
( Now can run "Intel HD gfx" which are pretty bad.. ) is now @ price of 7850K alone.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102950 $90 Discrete GDDR5 Gfx
Total:$280 for higher IPC,GDDR5 discrete GFX.
There are no big core BD/PD/SR "quadcores" in the 400$ list you linked, you forgot they are A8 and A10 only. There was Kabini and single module big cores besides Llano. And with Kabini that GPU advantage...not so much. And CPU wise none of them are even near. But again, with Kabini we could start to talk about BayTrail too.
If AMDs chip was like everyone wanted. Then I am sure their marketshare would be better, alot better.
Its funny how you talk about an Intel tax. When you show people have to pay the AMD tax. And even more so after the 22% price increase as seen on the lackbuster 7850K.
heh, R7 240 (320 Radeon Cores) is slower than A8-7600 R7 with 364 Radeon Cores. Not only that, CPU wise the A8-7600 will completely destroy the Celeron.
So at the end, the A8-7600 is cheaper, with better graphics and lower overall TDP.
Edit: and dont forget you cannot put those GPUs in to a SFF slim case.
You do know that Intel got AMD to sign a limit of below 35% marketshare? This happened when they renewed the x86 license to AMD. There are terms which even allow cancellation of the license itself if the marketshare of AMD grows too much.
AMD can achieve a bigger leap throwing the entire architecture just like the P4 to Conroe. They are probably working on something, to continue after XV
I am fairly confident that this build will crush yours at the same price point(at least for gaming):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A88XM-E45 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($75.99 @ Mwave)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $280.96
With half baked graphics compared to Kaveri...
AMD has had better graphics than Intel for just about forever. And yet they have not been successful.
Since the market seems to have decided that better graphics than Intel isn't much of selling point, why will Kaveri be any different?
AMD just reported another 9% drop on their CPU business. That's the results of their APU strategy.
AMD just reported another 9% drop on their CPU business. That's the results of their APU strategy.
Or maybe the complete lack of new products this holiday season?
AMD just reported another 9% drop on their CPU business. That's the results of their APU strategy.
Microprocessor ASP increased sequentially, due to a richer mix of client APUs sold.
Or maybe the complete lack of new products this holiday season?
Why read about it here and there, and not have it straight from the horse's (well, one of the two concerned) mouth?No. Thats simply made up BS. And it would be tragic if anyone even remotely thought that was true.
I would recommend you to read this:
http://corporate.findlaw.com/contra...agreement-advanced-micro-devices-inc-and.html
Why read about it here and there, and not have it straight from the horse's (well, one of the two concerned) mouth?
http://www.amd.com/br/Documents/AMD_Intel_Settlement_Agreement_-_Full.pdf
This is from 2009
Some detail is outlined in a post at SA.
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=206228&postcount=18
6.2. Termination of Section 2.0 Limitations . Section 2.0 shall terminate in its entirety, without the need for any further action byIntel, and shall be of no further force or effect if:
RR just said record sales of A8 and A10 APUs in Q4.