The Official Kaveri Review Thread (A10-7850K, etc)

[AtenRa]

There is here in the US, maybe your channel just hasn't had them allocated yet.

Supply looks fine, but reviews were not great.

Yea i was talking about Europe.

 

[Abwx]

Yea i was talking about Europe.

Actualy they re available in France since launch day or so,
that is over one month now...

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pieces-informatique/processeur/c4300/+fb-C000000805+fv579-8134.html

 

[AtenRa]

Actualy they re available in France since launch day or so,
that is over one month now...

http://www.ldlc.com/informatique/pieces-informatique/processeur/c4300/+fb-C000000805+fv579-8134.html

ok, nice to see there are a few retailers that have them. But as far as i can see there is low availability as of now. Things will get better from late February and onwards.

 

[jason166]

I picked up the motherboard+7850K+BF4 combo at Microcenter for $139.99 + tax.. There's even a $10 rebate on the MB that drops the price to 129.99 for all 3! If you're by a MC this is a great deal. If only the mainstream pricing was closer, kaveri would be a much more compelling option.

 

[USER8000]

The A10 7850K was easily available from many retailers just after launch in the UK. However,ATM many of them seem to have little or no stock.

 

[Chiropteran]

$129 for A10-7850k at Microcenter. No reason to spend more elsewhere if you have access to a Microcenter.

 

[Dresdenboy]

Maybe this has been posted already, but here it is.
AMD claims 14.5% IPC increase and 38% power reduction for Steamroller:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/635/132/html/07.png.html

 

[Abwx]

Maybe this has been posted already, but here it is.
AMD claims 14.5% IPC increase and 38% power reduction for Steamroller:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/635/132/html/07.png.html

A 21W Kaveri should match a 35W Richland, this would be a much
more compelling offer than 20-25W Kabinis not only for mobile
but also HTPCs and other low power items given the large
difference in GPU perfs.

 

[coercitiv]

Maybe this has been posted already, but here it is. AMD claims 14.5% IPC increase and 38% power reduction for Steamroller: http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/635/132/html/07.png.html

What's that "+500Mhz" bullet point for?

 

[coercitiv]

Yea i was talking about Europe.

Both A10 7850 and 7700 were available shortly (days) after launch in Romania.

 

[Homeles]

Maybe this has been posted already, but here it is.
AMD claims 14.5% IPC increase and 38% power reduction for Steamroller:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/635/132/html/07.png.html

Those aren't AMD slides.

 

[NTMBK]

Those aren't AMD slides.

They were presented by AMD engineers at ISSCC.

 

[Homeles]

They were presented by AMD engineers at ISSCC.

I see what the issue is. It's a bit of an assortment from various sources. There's Hot Chips slides in there, PC Watch slides in there, and ISSCC slides in there.

 

[PG]

It may be a bit off topic but why hasn't Anandtech added Kaveri results to to the Bench comparison page?

 

[inf64]

It may be a bit off topic but why hasn't Anandtech added Kaveri results to to the Bench comparison page?

Hmm a good question. I haven't checked their bench page lately, it would be great if they could add those results to the database.

 

[bgt]

You can find them here(NL) but the price is way too high.
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/355814/amd-a10-7850k-black-edition.html
VAT is included.

 

[CHADBOGA]

Okay, at my aforementioned computer store, the AMD A10-7700K has landed at a price of AUD$199.

For comparison purposes, for AUD$214, you can get a Intel Core i5 4440 LGA1150 CPU 3.1Ghz 6Mb Cache Haswell.

 

[AtenRa]

Okay, at my aforementioned computer store, the AMD A10-7700K has landed at a price of AUD$199.

For comparison purposes, for AUD$214, you can get a Intel Core i5 4440 LGA1150 CPU 3.1Ghz 6Mb Cache Haswell.

Yeap, A10-7770K will be faster in Gaming and Open CL applications and Core i5 4400 will be faster in CPU. If you need a faste CPU you go with the Core i5, if you need a faster Gaming APU with Faster Open CL performance you go with the A10-7770K.

Easy as that

 

[SPBHM]

Yeap, A10-7770K will be faster in Gaming and Open CL applications and Core i5 4400 will be faster in CPU. If you need a faste CPU you go with the Core i5, if you need a faster Gaming APU with Faster Open CL performance you go with the A10-7770K.

Easy as that

you can try to justify in many ways but, the 7770K shouldn't cost the same as the i5, if you look at the official prices the difference is already bigger, and remember the days when most APUs were around 100-120 and i5s 180-200? (US price), and the 7770K is not even the full thing...

 

[AtenRa]

you can try to justify in many ways but, the 7770K shouldn't cost the same as the i5, if you look at the official prices the difference is already bigger, and remember the days when most APUs were around 100-120 and i5s 180-200? (US price), and the 7770K is not even the full thing...

A10-7770K doesnt cost the same as Core i5 it is cheaper, currently at $160 in Newegg. Cheapest Haswell Core i5 in Newegg starts at $190.

As i have said before, Kaveri will be faster in games and Open CL, Haswell Core i5 is faster in CPU. The choose is yours, simple as that.

 

[Sweepr]

Yeap, A10-7770K will be faster in Gaming and Open CL applications and Core i5 4400 will be faster in CPU. If you need a faste CPU you go with the Core i5, if you need a faster Gaming APU with Faster Open CL performance you go with the A10-7770K.

Easy as that

Let me be a little more specific.
- You want to have a light gaming/OpenCL system that outperforms Haswell GT2's IGP.
- You dont care about quad-core Haswell's significant CPU performance advantage and you dont plan to add a much more powerful dGPU right now or in the future to play demanding X1/PS4 ports (otherwise Haswell's CPU advantage would shine).
- You know that it performs worse than a similarly priced CPU+dGPU system (especially if you have access to nice combo deals or dont mind buying used stuff) but for some reason you care a lot about power consumption/heat and would give up performance for a lower-power APU solution.

Sounds like a niche to me and you have to admit they should price those Kaveri chips a little bit lower.

 

[AtenRa]

Let me be a little more specific.
- You want to have a light gaming/OpenCL system that outperforms Haswell GT2's IGP.
- You dont care about quad-core Haswell's significant CPU performance advantage and you dont plan to add a much more powerful dGPU right now or in the future to play demanding X1/PS4 ports (otherwise Haswell's CPU advantage would shine).
- You know that it performs worse than a similarly priced CPU+dGPU system (especially if you have access to nice combo deals or dont mind buying used stuff) but for some reason you care a lot about power consumption/heat and would give up performance for a lower-power APU solution.

Sounds like a niche to me and you have to admit they should price those Kaveri chips a little bit lower.

By that logic every Core i3/5/7 is a niche. I can get a Pentium + dGPU for less than Core i5 and have better graphics. I can get FX6350 + GPU and have better Multithreading/Multitasking than Core i3. I can get A10-7850K and have better gaming and OpenCL than Core i5 etc etc.
That is why there are so many different CPUs offered from both AMD and Intel. Each one of us is a niche and both AMD and Intel are trying to sell you your own Personal Computer to satisfy your niche.

 

[Neal.a.nelson]

Anyone else notice that it's been 6 weeks since the introduction, and we still don't have retail availability on the A8-7600?

 

[AtenRa]

Anyone else notice that it's been 6 weeks since the introduction, and we still don't have retail availability on the A8-7600?

AMD said the A8-7600 will be released in Q1, that is until the end of March.

 

[SPBHM]

A10-7770K doesnt cost the same as Core i5 it is cheaper, currently at $160 in Newegg. Cheapest Haswell Core i5 in Newegg starts at $190.

As i have said before, Kaveri will be faster in games and Open CL, Haswell Core i5 is faster in CPU. The choose is yours, simple as that.

!? you answer quoting Australian prices:

AMD A10-7700K $199.

AUD$214 i5 4440 LGA1150 CPU 3.1Ghz 6Mb.

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Yeap, A10-7770K will be faster in Gaming and Open CL applications and Core i5 4400 will be faster in CPU.

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seems like you think the Australian prices (specifically the difference between 7700K and it 4440) are reasonable, I don't, the difference should be bigger, or the 7700K makes no sense,