The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

[chucky2]

DaveA28- If you can, might want to wait for the ATI RD690 based motherboards to hit...onboard HDMI and onboard HD audio sound pretty nice to me, that's what I've decided to wait for...

Chuck

 

[solaris9000]

It is always jerky. But I was sent a beta version of the Dvico software and it appears to have resolved the problems. In the end I think it was due to buggy software more than anything.

Thanks.

 

[fbg111]

You can still find the MSI K8NGM2-FID with a bit of Googling

http://www.payhalf.com/product/1/6/34551

It's the best 6150/430 939 mobo for Linux/Solaris.

Update: According to this discussion:

http://www.htpcnews.com/forums/index.ph...bd965fcf7b8ad606&showtopic=24079&st=15

PayHalf may be out of stock too, just mislabeled it as in stock. However, Amazon still has 2 left, and perhaps some from their other 3rd party online stores:

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000CSSNYK/ref=s9_asin_title/102-6224854-7143300

It's mislabeled too, but look at the item number (K8NGM2-FID).

 

[grits]

Be careful with Amazon. Might be the -NBP as the thread on htpcnews said.

 

[BernardP]

And again, it is still in stock at NCIX.com. They have 3 on hand

For 91.13 US dollars

They are a canadian store but they sell in the US. I have done business with them and am very satisfied.

:music: If you want it :music: Here it is :music: Come and get it! :music:

 

[knightc2]

I know first hand that Amazon is shipping the NBP as I was one of the people on HTPCNews. Product page says FID but they sent the NBP. Had to send it back the day I got it.

As for NCIX.com, I gave it a try. I have been trying to get this board for well over two months and have failed on two attempts so I guess it is worth a try. They only accept PayPal but I guess that is ok. Hopefully it comes, it works, it has all the accessories and that it is the right product.

 

[u2slow]

I picked up the K8NGM2-FID yesterday from NCIX. I was really pleased with everything I'd researched on the board - including that is was win2k compatible.

I'm running into a big snag on the audio drivers though. Anyone run into this before? (Appear to install & load successfully, but no results.)

 

[renethx]

A user reported the "No Audio Device" problem but eventually fixed it.

Date Posted: 08/18/2006 09:11 AM Posted By: Medikit (Junior Member)

I just installed this motherboard and had relatively few problems. I'm using just about everything onboard.
Dvd-rom drive is toshiba, hard drive is the 320 gig SATA drive from Seagate.

So anyways the problem I have is that for some reason I get "No Audio Device". I've installed the drivers for the northbridge, southbridge, video, and the Realtek HD Audio drivers. I've even removed and reinstalled and tried the drivers from the original CD. Still no go. Any idea what might be going on?

Date Posted: 08/18/2006 09:54 AM Posted By: renethx (Senior Member)

A routine procedure is, make sure that BIOS Setup > Integrated Peripherals > AZALIA AUDIO > [Auto] is selected. (Auto is default.) Then uninstall the existing Realtek High Definition Audio Driver and restart the computer. Then install the latest driver (R1.43) and restart the computer. Go to the Computer Management console > Device Manager > Sound, video and game controllers and make sure that "Realtek High Definition Audio" is there. If there is a yellow mark, the driver is not installed properly. If you cannot see "Realtek High Definition Audio" or even a yellow mark, then your motherboard's audio may be defective.

Date Posted: 08/18/2006 02:15 PM Posted By: Medikit (Junior Member)

I've done all of that, I'd really prefer that the motherboard isn't defective. I'm going to try disabling and re-enabling and I'm also going to try memtest86, maybe the system is unstable and that's how it's playing out. Pretty annoying though.

Date Posted: 08/18/2006 03:03 PM Posted By: Medikit (Junior Member)

Finally got it working, after a while it showed with an exclamation mark under systems as unknown device and finally it came up

 

[trueimage]

This isnt specific to this board, but is there any way to install full size cards into this board in a "desktop" / low profile case, or can anyone recommend any motherboards that would take full size cards... or a case that is still good for HTPC but accepts full size cards?

 

[aeroguy]

This motherboard takes full size PCI cards just fine. The PCI card size you can use is only dependent on your case.

Edit: if you have a low profile case, you would need riser cards that possibly came with the case like the Silverston LC11.

But like I said, it has nothing to do with the motherboard.

 

[aeroguy]

Also, as far as cases that accept full size cards, I own the nMediaPC 200BA, and it is the minimum height for full size PCI cards.

If I was buying today, I'd probably get the Antec Fusion. I believe it also accepts full size PCI cards.

 

[h0mi]

Got a question about these 6150 chipsets... if I wanted to buy a pcie video card for better video performance, what would be the minimum card I could get & see an improvement? What gpu from nvidia & ati is identical to the 6150?

 

[u2slow]

Fixed!

after a while it showed with an exclamation mark under systems as unknown device

This was my experience. It did not show up under Multimedia. I had to expand and find it under system. Update the driver manually, and it finds the current drivers I loaded.

The only trouble with upgrading a friends computer is you don't get play (much) with what you spec'ed & built.

Thanks for the help

 

[knightc2]

I ordered from NCIX.com 3 days ago and it states that it will be delivered on 11/03. Does it normally take this long? That is almost 2 weeks of shipping time. I know it is crossing the border, but it does seem lengthy. Anyone received items from NCIX.com sooner than this?

 

[u2slow]

That sort of wait is typical if they need to bring it in. 5-6 business days for my last order they didn't have on-hand. I pay close attention to their 'in-stock' status for items... sometimes I can wait for things, other times I can't.

I deal with NCIX directly (20min drive) so I can't comment on their shipping times.

 

[aeroguy]

Originally posted by: h0mi
Got a question about these 6150 chipsets... if I wanted to buy a pcie video card for better video performance, what would be the minimum card I could get & see an improvement? What gpu from nvidia & ati is identical to the 6150?

Wikipedia

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: h0mi
Got a question about these 6150 chipsets... if I wanted to buy a pcie video card for better video performance, what would be the minimum card I could get & see an improvement? What gpu from nvidia & ati is identical to the 6150?

Based on results at the FutureMark ORB everything from the 6200 and on is better and the radeon 9500 seems to score anywhere from about the same to about twice as much (oc'd and stuff), so anything better than that should be fine.

Whatever you buy will be better than the 6150 unless you decide to get an FX5200

 

[s44]

Any thoughts on X2 4400 (89W) v. Opty 175 v. X2 4600 as an upgrade CPU? They're all about the same (low) price now.

Which one is likely to OC best on this board's parameters of stock voltage and max 250mhz FSB?

 

[BernardP]

Originally posted by: knightc2
I ordered from NCIX.com 3 days ago and it states that it will be delivered on 11/03. Does it normally take this long? That is almost 2 weeks of shipping time. I know it is crossing the border, but it does seem lengthy. Anyone received items from NCIX.com sooner than this?

It seems a very long delay. When I ordered a hard drive from them a few months ago, I clicked on the ORDER button at 4:45 pm on a Monday and the drive was delivered the following morning at 10:30 am. And this, all the way across Canada.

The NCIX web site was showing 3 units on hand as "Real Time Availability" for the K8NGM2-FID when I posted about its availability.

There is the cross-border thing to be sure, but two weeks is looong. I would bet you will get it a lot faster. They might say 2 weeks just to lower expectations.

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: s44
Any thoughts on X2 4400 (89W) v. Opty 175 v. X2 4600 as an upgrade CPU? They're all about the same (low) price now.

Which one is likely to OC best on this board's parameters of stock voltage and max 250mhz FSB?

definitely the 175, it will oc better than either of those 2 and max oc on stock vcore is very important on this board!

 

[Kid Vicious]

http://cgi.ebay.com/MSI-K8NGM2-FID-NVID...4QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

this was the last place i could find one. cost an arm and a leg tho. hopefully it will pay off.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: avi85

Originally posted by: s44
Any thoughts on X2 4400 (89W) v. Opty 175 v. X2 4600 as an upgrade CPU? They're all about the same (low) price now.

Which one is likely to OC best on this board's parameters of stock voltage and max 250mhz FSB?

definitely the 175, it will oc better than either of those 2 and max oc on stock vcore is very important on this board!

Better than the low-power 4400? I'm sure it'll beat the regular 4400, but I figured the 89W one would have more headroom.

 

[knightc2]

Originally posted by: BernardP

Originally posted by: knightc2
I ordered from NCIX.com 3 days ago and it states that it will be delivered on 11/03. Does it normally take this long? That is almost 2 weeks of shipping time. I know it is crossing the border, but it does seem lengthy. Anyone received items from NCIX.com sooner than this?

It seems a very long delay. When I ordered a hard drive from them a few months ago, I clicked on the ORDER button at 4:45 pm on a Monday and the drive was delivered the following morning at 10:30 am. And this, all the way across Canada.

The NCIX web site was showing 3 units on hand as "Real Time Availability" for the K8NGM2-FID when I posted about its availability.

There is the cross-border thing to be sure, but two weeks is looong. I would bet you will get it a lot faster. They might say 2 weeks just to lower expectations.

I am getting this info via the tracking number from Canada Post. It shipped on 10/20 and the "Service Standard Delivery Date" is listed as 11/03. Seems way too long but at this point I am just happy to be able to get it at all. Maybe it'll show up sooner. I don't have a CPU to put in it right now anyway so I guess it doesn't matter either way.

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: s44

Originally posted by: avi85

Originally posted by: s44
Any thoughts on X2 4400 (89W) v. Opty 175 v. X2 4600 as an upgrade CPU? They're all about the same (low) price now.

Which one is likely to OC best on this board's parameters of stock voltage and max 250mhz FSB?

definitely the 175, it will oc better than either of those 2 and max oc on stock vcore is very important on this board!

Better than the low-power 4400? I'm sure it'll beat the regular 4400, but I figured the 89W one would have more headroom.

Low power does not necesarily mean more oc'ing headroom, but the optys are almost "guaranteed" to get a decent overclock...

 

[avi85]

New BIOS available here, version 3.6, it says that it now supports the ALC883 chip with the new BIOS. This seems kind of strange because I was under the impression that all of these boards came with the ALC880.

In the zip file is a text document which lists 3 things that were updated in this BIOS but they are written in chinese, I'd appreciate it if somebody could translate it.

If somebody gets around to trying it, let us know what changes there are in the BIOS settings (I can always hope for vcore control, can't I? )