The *Official* MSI K8NGM2-FID GeForce 6150 Motherboard Thread

[trueimage]

anyone solve their spdif bracket problems? i'm about to order an aopen low profile card....

 

[avi85]

Has anybody installed a sound card on this board? I was wondering how much better an add-on sound card is over the ALC880.

I'm specifically interested in the x-fi xtreme music, but any add-on board comparison is of interest to me.

 

[Raydur]

Originally posted by: Raydur
Can anyone point me to where I can find the meanings for the beep codes when the computer is first started up? I remember getting only a single beep, but now it has 2 short beeps after the POST and seems to take longer to fully load into windows. I've looked through the manual, but don't see them anywhere.

Thanks!

Anyone have any idea about the beep codes?

 

[agent2099]

Originally posted by: avi85
Has anybody installed a sound card on this board? I was wondering how much better an add-on sound card is over the ALC880.

I'm specifically interested in the x-fi xtreme music, but any add-on board comparison is of interest to me.

I installed a AV-710, but that was specifically for the SPDIF out to my receiver. If I had the spdif bracket I would have likely not purchased a sound card. Unfortunately when these motherboards were first shipping MSI did not include them.

 

[Medikit]

I just installed this motherboard and had relatively few problems. I'm using just about everything onboard.
Dvd-rom drive is toshiba, hard drive is the 320 gig SATA drive from Seagate.

So anyways the problem I have is that for some reason I get "No Audio Device". I've installed the drivers for the northbridge, southbridge, video, and the Realtek HD Audio drivers. I've even removed and reinstalled and tried the drivers from the original CD. Still no go. Any idea what might be going on?

 

[renethx]

A routine procedure is, make sure that BIOS Setup > Integrated Peripherals > AZALIA AUDIO > [Auto] is selected. (Auto is default.) Then uninstall the existing Realtek High Definition Audio Driver and restart the computer. Then install the latest driver (R1.43) and restart the computer. Go to the Computer Management console > Device Manager > Sound, video and game controllers and make sure that "Realtek High Definition Audio" is there. If there is a yellow mark, the driver is not installed properly. If you cannot see "Realtek High Definition Audio" or even a yellow mark, then your motherboard's audio may be defective.

 

[Medikit]

Originally posted by: renethx
A routine procedure is, make sure that BIOS Setup > Integrated Peripherals > AZALIA AUDIO > [Auto] is selected. (Auto is default.) Then uninstall the existing Realtek High Definition Audio Driver and restart the computer. Then install the latest driver (R1.43) and restart the computer. Go to the Computer Management console > Device Manager > Sound, video and game controllers and make sure that "Realtek High Definition Audio" is there. If there is a yellow mark, the driver is not installed properly. If you cannot see "Realtek High Definition Audio" or even a yellow mark, then your motherboard's audio may be defective.

I've done all of that, I'd really prefer that the motherboard isn't defective. I'm going to try disabling and re-enabling and I'm also going to try memtest86, maybe the system is unstable and that's how it's playing out. Pretty annoying though.

 

[Medikit]

Finally got it working, after a while it showed with an exclamation mark under systems as unknown device and finally it came up

 

[Raging Bull]

Just wondering. . . can't get my E6 3700+ past 1.4 VCORE in any of the bios versions. With the help of RMClock utility, I'm at a steady 1.4v when topped out, and Cool n Quiet is operating well, stepping it down to 1.1v.

But I can't get past 2.6 stable, and it's the vcore that's holding me back. Any suggestions?

 

[MaxDepth]

you would think that this thread would get a sticky with views topping 70K.
:roll:

 

[renethx]

In my system, the default CPU voltage is 1.35V and the maximum CPU voltage is 1.40V either with BIOS 3.00/3.15 or with RMClock.

Several users say max is 1.45V (avi85, DetoXL, RjG, tempoct). Some (mikeaco) says "with PC Alert and CPU-Z that Vcore was jumping around between 1.40V and 1.45V" (with BOIS 3.15).

 

[buildingacomputer]

Where can I get io shield? I checked MSI USA website but could not find pertinent info. Thanks.

 

[renethx]

Back IO shield is included in the package. Did you lose it? If so, call MSI support and ask to send it.

 

[RjG]

Originally posted by: renethx
In my system, the default CPU voltage is 1.35V and the maximum CPU voltage is 1.40V either with BIOS 3.00/3.15 or with RMClock.

Several users say max is 1.45V (avi85, DetoXL, RjG, tempoct). Some (mikeaco) says "with PC Alert and CPU-Z that Vcore was jumping around between 1.40V and 1.45V" (with BOIS 3.15).

RMClock definately goes up to 1.45 for me. Isn't that weird.

 

[renethx]

The options in the dropdown menu Add/Modify Performance State > Requested Voltage Level (VID) in RMClock Utility 2.1 are: 1.100V, 1.125, ... , 1.375V, 1.400V. That is, 1.400V is the maximum value I can choose. If I choose 1.400V, then the CPU Voltage in CPU-Z fluctuates between 1.392v and 1.408v.

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: renethx
The options in the dropdown menu Add/Modify Performance State > Requested Voltage Level (VID) in RMClock Utility 2.1 are: 1.100V, 1.125, ... , 1.375V, 1.400V. That is, 1.400V is the maximum value I can choose. If I choose 1.400V, then the CPU Voltage in CPU-Z fluctuates between 1.392v and 1.408v.

if your default voltage is 1.35 then your max on this board will be 1.4 cause all rmclock does is add 0.05, my default voltage is 1.4 which is why I can go to 1.45

 

[Tobeman]

Hey,

First time poster, longtime lurker here, very nice forums you have here I must say, and this thread has been very useful!

I'm hoping you can help me with my overclock on this board (v3.50 BIOS). I have an Opteron 146 CABYE 0540 (I believe) with Arctic Silver 5 applied, 2gb OCZ Performance PC3200 memory, rock solid 480w Tagan PSU in a Silverstone Sugo Evolution case (with all but the extra 80mm fan mount used, cross flow fan and everything else is wired up) and I'm trying to overclock.

Before overclocking, I checked idle and stressed (SuperPi 8m) CPU temps and they didn't surpass 45 degrees which I thought was fine. I delved straight in, following the settings, to 240mhz CPU-LDT. No chance, wouldn't boot. I reset CMOS and tried 225, same again. Then smaller increments down to 210mhz. It booted! Hoorah! I kept going all the way to 226 again and realised something couldn't be right so I checked the settings, and yes indeed the memclock was at 100mhz and not 166 as suggested.

Can anyone suggest what to do? Seems like this lovely stepping Opteron is going to waste.

Many thanks,

Tobe

 

[renethx]

avi85,

That sounds strange. I wonder what determines the default voltage, the PCB version or the CPU model number. Mine is the default voltage: 1.35V, PCB: v1.0, CPU: 3200+ Venice and X2 3800+ Manchester.

 

[renethx]

Tobeman,

I suggest to use BIOS v3.00 or v3.13 (the only versions that allow the adjustment of CPU multiplier) and isolate the problem as stated in the last remark of the first post of the thread. Also check your memory voltage in BIOS that should be set to 2.60V (2.55V is the default).

 

[avi85]

Originally posted by: renethx
avi85,

That sounds strange. I wonder what determines the default voltage, the PCB version or the CPU model number. Mine is the default voltage: 1.35V, PCB: v1.0, CPU: 3200+ Venice and X2 3200+ Manchester.

If you've ever noticed, the default voltage for A64's is listed as 1.35/1.4 for venices 1.3/1.35 for manchesters and there are many other examples but basically I believe that what happens is they take each batch and see if it needs slightly more/less voltage and then change the VID-pins accordingly (see here, just scroll down to "vCore-mod part2"), so some venices are 1.35 and some are 1.4 which also might explain why your 3200+ can reach over 2600MHz on default voltage and mine only reaches 2340MHz cause mine was so bad to begin with that they had to add 0.05v to make it 1.4v but your's is a pretty good chip, so no extra volts were needed.

 

[seb2010]

Hello!

I've some trouble getting the board to work witch my dvb-s card. It seems like there is a driver problem or something, or the hardware mpeg2-decoder isn't working, i don't know:
When i use the native TV-prog shipped with the card everything works fine, although skips appear from time to time. When i try to use a 3rd party Prog which uses the bda-driver, playback gets realy choppy, but i can increase performance when reducing resolution and color-depth. I have a A64 3500+, 1gig ram and a hauppauge nova-s plus, which should be enough to watch dvb-s tv smoothly. is there any known incompatibility of the 6150 gpu, or is this one generaly slow.... any way to check if hardware mpeg2-decoder is enabled and linked to tv-playback (using purevideo software mpeg2-decoder right now). Or may some bios settings prevent the dvb-s card from working at full speed?? any ideas? newest driver and software installed, of course (win xp pro sp2, all patched, including bda-fix).

thx SEB

 

[Tobeman]

renethx,

Originally posted by: renethx
Tobeman,

I suggest to use BIOS v3.00 or v3.13 (the only versions that allow the adjustment of CPU multiplier) and isolate the problem as stated in the last remark of the first post of the thread. Also check your memory voltage in BIOS that should be set to 2.60V (2.55V is the default).

I managed to downgrade successfully to v3.13 BETA and will go and try and improve my measily overclock now I will post back my results. Thanks!

Update; I tried 225mhz, and upping the RAM voltage to 2.65 with the v3.13 BIOS, now it doesn't boot again Suggestions?

Update 2: I went through every setting individually in order to see what was causing it not to boot. It occurs when I change the command rate to 1T instead of 2T. Further suggestions?

Update 3: Leaving the command rate at 2T has allowed me to push CPU-LDT to 250.

 

[renethx]

First always disable Cool'n'Quiet in BIOS. Following Zebo's article,

1. First determine max safe CPU-LDT Frequency. Select

CPU to NB Frequency: [800 MHz]
NB to SB Frequency: [800 MHz]
Memclock Value: [100 MHz]
Processor Frequency Multiple: [x7 1400 MHz]

and then increase CPU-LDT Frequency up until your system fails to boot. If it fails to boot at CPU-LDT Frequency [225MHz], your motherboard is the bottleneck.

2. Then determine max CPU frequency. Select

CPU to NB Frequency: [800 MHz]
NB to SB Frequency: [800 MHz]
Memclock Value: [100 MHz]
Processor Frequency Multiple: [x10 2000 MHz]

Starting with CPU-LDT Frequency [200MHz] raise in about 5MHz increments up to your motherboard's max found earlier or until you start failing PRIME95...only give it 5 minutes max, that's good enough for now...

Edited

OK, your post changed rapidly. Now your system is OK with 250MHz and 2T. As stated repeatedly in the first post, the penalty of choosing 2T is almost negligible in real world applications. I recommend you to leave the command rate 2T. CPU speed is always king.

 

[Tobeman]

renethx,

Thanks for all this help!

I set the multiplier to 7x 1400mhz as you instructed, then set the CPU-LDT To 225; that booted fine. I went onto step 2. I went straight in at 250 CPU-LDT as well as setting the mutliplier to 10x, and I am now running Prime95 (well, Stress Prime 2004 - as that has a timer ) for 5 minutes and will report back! Thanks.

 

[Tobeman]

Originally posted by: renethx
Edited

OK, your post changed rapidly. Now your system is OK with 250MHz and 2T. As stated repeatedly in the first post, the penalty of choosing 2T is almost negligible in real world applications. I recommend you to leave the command rate 2T. CPU speed is always king.

Ok Any other tweaking I could do? I guess I could lower the voltage of the memory to try and keep it cooler? Also, why when I set the Memclock to auto, does it still report as being 333? Will it not run at DDR400 speed?