The official Nexus 5 thread.

[Wingznut]

Get the Moto X.

get a moto X.

The 720p resolution kills that phone for me.

 

[zerocool84]

bummer, id be happy even if it were lte only on varizin

Then you wouldn't be able to talk. We are still years away from a Verizon phone not needing CDMA, until then every Verizon phone is going to need it so no LTE only for voice for a while, CDMA still needed as a fall back.

 

[openwheel]

The 720p resolution kills that phone for me.

Am I the only one who thinks 720p on 4.7 inch screen is plenty good? Especially full rgb ampled, and that 1080p on anything under 5 inch is just a waste of processing power.

 

[jimv1983]

The 720p resolution kills that phone for me.

1080p doesn't make any noticeable difference on a screen that small but 720p greatly helps battery life as does the fact that the screen is AMOLED. I'd take a 720p AMOLED over a 1080 IPS LCD any day.

 

[jimv1983]

Am I the only one who thinks 720p on 4.7 inch screen is plenty good? Especially full rgb ampled, and that 1080p on anything under 5 inch is just a waste of processing power.

And a waste of battery life.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Am I the only one who thinks 720p on 4.7 inch screen is plenty good? Especially full rgb ampled, and that 1080p on anything under 5 inch is just a waste of processing power.

It's pretty good, but why not 1080p? You can still get good screen on time with an HTC One and GS4. There are other optimizations you can make for battery savings besides the screen.

 

[kaerflog]

Am I the only one who thinks 720p on 4.7 inch screen is plenty good? Especially full rgb ampled, and that 1080p on anything under 5 inch is just a waste of processing power.

It is plenty good but when when all the top tier phones uses 1080p, you feel a little cheated.
I would say the Moto X has the best size though. For a 4.7" screen, the phone itself is very small.
The Moto X looks cheap though. Its just look plasticky all over.
At least with the GS4, it has chrome all around to make it look less plasticky than it really is.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It is plenty good but when when all the top tier phones uses 1080p, you feel a little cheated.
I would say the Moto X has the best size though. For a 4.7" screen, the phone itself is very small.
The Moto X looks cheap though. Its just look plasticky all over.
At least with the GS4, it has chrome all around to make it look less plasticky than it really is.

Yeah. The Moto X seems to look better in pictures but when held in person feels cheaper than I expected. The size is nice though.

The GS4 was a huge step up from the GS3. Less rounded and more square with the chrome strip to make it much better. I really hated the GS3, but the GS4 really turned out better than expected. Plus, Samsung worked to fix the backlight bleed issue a bit on the white GS4s, so it looks less cheap than the GS3.

 

[kaerflog]

Yeah. The Moto X seems to look better in pictures but when held in person feels cheaper than I expected. The size is nice though.

The GS4 was a huge step up from the GS3. Less rounded and more square with the chrome strip to make it much better. I really hated the GS3, but the GS4 really turned out better than expected. Plus, Samsung worked to fix the backlight bleed issue a bit on the white GS4s, so it looks less cheap than the GS3.

I feel the exact same way.
At first I thought the GS4 was just a re-hash of the GS3 but in person, it looks very nice.

When I got to see the Moto X in person, I was a bit disappointed.
It feels like a budget phone in your hand.
The black looks much better than the white.
The problem with the white Moto X is it seems the white screen color does not match the body and it gives off a very ugly look.
But I must say the size is perfect. Feels great on the hand.
So now my wish would be that same body with 4.7" 1080p screen in a more refine body like the IP5 or HTC1.
As you can see from the pic, it seems like the edge is raised up from the screen but its just the difference in whites that give the illusion.
Not attractive at all.

 

[jimv1983]

It's pretty good, but why not 1080p? You can still get good screen on time with an HTC One and GS4. There are other optimizations you can make for battery savings besides the screen.

The screen is by far the biggest power hog on ANY phone. 1080p offers no noticeable difference over 720p on a 4.7-5" screen. Why waste the power? Even if you can get better battery life with other optimizations a lower resolution screen will make battery life even better, by a large margin. Using AMOLED over LCD, especially IPS, helps a lot too.

 

[jimv1983]

I feel the exact same way.
At first I thought the GS4 was just a re-hash of the GS3 but in person, it looks very nice.

When I got to see the Moto X in person, I was a bit disappointed.
It feels like a budget phone in your hand.
The black looks much better than the white.
The problem with the white Moto X is it seems the white screen color does not match the body and it gives off a very ugly look.
But I must say the size is perfect. Feels great on the hand.
So now my wish would be that same body with 4.7" 1080p screen in a more refine body like the IP5 or HTC1.
As you can see from the pic, it seems like the edge is raised up from the screen but its just the difference in whites that give the illusion.
Not attractive at all.

The Moto X feels very nice in the hand and the 720p screen looks great. There is no need for 1080p on a phone and it just wastes power anyways. The phone is also very good looking in black. The white is ugly but all white phones are ugly so that isn't saying much.

Also, that Moto X does have a pretty big top bezel. So much wasted space.

Yeah. The Moto X seems to look better in pictures but when held in person feels cheaper than I expected. The size is nice though.

The GS4 was a huge step up from the GS3. Less rounded and more square with the chrome strip to make it much better. I really hated the GS3, but the GS4 really turned out better than expected. Plus, Samsung worked to fix the backlight bleed issue a bit on the white GS4s, so it looks less cheap than the GS3.

Back light bleed on the GS3 and GS4? Neither of those phones have back light bleed. To have back light bleed you need a phone that uses a back light. The GS3 and GS4 are AMOLED screens. They don't use a back light.

Also, you say that the Moto X feels cheap but you say good things about the S3 and S4? Samsung is the king of cheap feeling phones.

The Moto X size is closer to perfect than any other phone. It looks like the Nexus 5 might be bigger than what was stated in the FCC filing which was already pushing it for me. The size and battery life are starting to push me away from the Nexus 5. I'm really leaning towards the Moto X right now.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

The Moto X feels very nice in the hand and the 720p screen looks great. There is no need for 1080p on a phone and it just wastes power anyways. The phone is also very good looking in black. The white is ugly but all white phones are ugly so that isn't saying much.

Also, that Moto X does have a pretty big top bezel. So much wasted space.


Back light bleed on the GS3 and GS4? Neither of those phones have back light bleed. To have back light bleed you need a phone that uses a back light. The GS3 and GS4 are AMOLED screens. They don't use a back light.

Also, you say that the Moto X feels cheap but you say good things about the S3 and S4? Samsung is the king of cheap feeling phones.

The Moto X size is closer to perfect than any other phone. It looks like the Nexus 5 might be bigger than what was stated in the FCC filing which was already pushing it for me. The size and battery life are starting to push me away from the Nexus 5. I'm really leaning towards the Moto X right now.

dewd, go to a store and use something like g2 and then the motox. its like night and day. the newer phones in every way feel superior to motox. motorola spent $500 mil to have sites like anandtech spread crap like "motorola has software optimization that makes up for having last year's cpu". thats all garbage. motorola knows this, they know their phones are going to be unsellable once g2, mexus 5, gs5s etc.. are widely available, which is why they are having a fire sale right now. they are the only manufacturer selling their best phones for less than $500. dont be a fool. if you want motorola, wait a couple months when they refresh their already obsolete inventory

 

[Zivic]

The 720p resolution kills that phone for me.

used one or going off the spec sheet? It is the best phone I have used. wife has an S4 and the screen is not a noticeable downgrade.

watch the reviews. they will comment that the screen is on par despite the 720 resolution

 

[Zivic]

dewd, go to a store and use something like g2 and then the motox. its like night and day. the newer phones in every way feel superior to motox. motorola spent $500 mil to have sites like anandtech spread crap like "motorola has software optimization that makes up for having last year's cpu". thats all garbage. motorola knows this, they know their phones are going to be unsellable once g2, mexus 5, gs5s etc.. are widely available, which is why they are having a fire sale right now. they are the only manufacturer selling their best phones for less than $500. dont be a fool. if you want motorola, wait a couple months when they refresh their already obsolete inventory

I went to the store and felt the exact opposite. the moto X was superior. I went in knowing nothing about it. went in to buy a note3 and walked out and went an ordered a moto X.

at this point if you are playing the spec game in regards to its "last years cpu" you simply care about the specs and not how the phone actually performs

 

[Zivic]

I feel the exact same way.
At first I thought the GS4 was just a re-hash of the GS3 but in person, it looks very nice.

When I got to see the Moto X in person, I was a bit disappointed.
It feels like a budget phone in your hand.
The black looks much better than the white.
I disagree. I agree the front is the phones biggest negative as it does look a little plasticy, especially in white. I don't think the black is bad though and I really like the soft touch back and shape of the phone. Easily the best in hand feel of any phone I have personally used

The problem with the white Moto X is it seems the white screen color does not match the body and it gives off a very ugly look.

this is because of the raised edges. they are plastic and raise up over the glass front screen. Easy solution, buy a black front phone

But I must say the size is perfect. Feels great on the hand.
So now my wish would be that same body with 4.7" 1080p screen in a more refine body like the IP5 or HTC1.
screen is not an issue at 720. It just isn't. I think your issues with refinement stem mainly from looking at a white one. I think the phone feels great in the hand, has a great shape and the right amount of heft to it

As you can see from the pic, it seems like the edge is raised up from the screen but its just the difference in whites that give the illusion.
Not attractive at all.
this is by design so when the phone is face down, it keeps the screen raised up off the surface. if you think the white looks cheap just get a black one. problem solved

My biggest reservation about getting the moto X was a sealed battery. really didn't want to go back to one after using a nexus 4. What a POS that phone was -> heavy, thick and slippery dual glass design, sealed battery, no LTE, crap camera, mediocre screen (our two phones had noticeable different colors), crappy speaker phone. The battery on the moto X is great. I don't feel tied to a charger like I did on my n4. I can make through a day on a charge.


My wife who still has a working regular iphone4 destroyed that phone (nexus 4) in a matter of a few months. mine made it slightly longer till the speaker took a dump and couldn't make it half a day on a charge. the Nexus4 kind of turned me off from wanted/waiting for the nexus 5 to come out.

I think the phone that "could have been" from the nexus line was the galaxy nexus. Lots of factors played into keeping that phone from being the best and I personally think the moto X is everything that phone was expected to be, or should have been. The 4.7" screen might seem small-ish to some, even I was looking for a 5"+, but the in hand feel of the phone is just so good and at 4.7" the screen is big enough. It has the vanilla-ish android we seem to all prefer and is as responsive as anything out there in real world use. I went in thinking the camera would be crappy, but coming from nexus phones, I think the camera is at least decent. It's not iphone like, but substantial upgrade from the sorry cameras in n4 and gn.

I may still buy a nexus 5 as it looks like a decent setup (minus the spec'd small battery). I just won't be so eager to jump into that pool like I was with the nexus 4. I will sit and wait a bit.

fwiw, I paid 267 bucks shipped for my moto x (32gig version) on contract. I see they are now $100 cheaper. going in, I felt the phone was overpriced, but was confident it was the best phone for me at this time. now a month or so later, I think the phone is worth the price I paid. I have no regrets with paying what some would say is too much for last years hardware. Some of the motorola features are gimicky, but I find I used the active notifications, the shake to camera feature and am using the "ok google now" speech recognition more and more. it is the best phone I have used. if the specs turn you away, I think you are focusing on the wrong aspects of what this phone is all about. That said, it performs as good or better than anything out there when it comes to daily use

this is probably the review that swayed my decision most on the phone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJTlB_S7ct0

 

[jacktesterson]

The screen is by far the biggest power hog on ANY phone. 1080p offers no noticeable difference over 720p on a 4.7-5" screen. Why waste the power? Even if you can get better battery life with other optimizations a lower resolution screen will make battery life even better, by a large margin. Using AMOLED over LCD, especially IPS, helps a lot too.

I have had plenty of 1080p phones in my hands next to 720p.

Anyone who says they can't notice a difference is lying to themselves.

 

[alangrift]

I think I'm more interested in KitKat than N5.

 

[Wingznut]

used one or going off the spec sheet? It is the best phone I have used. wife has an S4 and the screen is not a noticeable downgrade.
watch the reviews. they will comment that the screen is on par despite the 720 resolution

Yes, I've used 720 res phones.

Anyone who says they can't notice a difference is lying to themselves.

Exactly. How anyone cannot see the difference between 312 and 469 ppi pixel density, I don't understand.

 

[lifeblood]

Exactly. How anyone cannot see the difference between 312 and 469 ppi pixel density, I don't understand.

Somebody who wears really thick glasses? Or was this a rhetorical question?

My phone has a 4.5" 720p screen and 3 days life on a single battery charge. I willing will forgo the slightly better screen for the superior battery life. The choice is not even close.

 

[jacktesterson]

Somebody who wears really thick glasses? Or was this a rhetorical question?

My phone has a 4.5" 720p screen and 3 days life on a single battery charge. I willing will forgo the slightly better screen for the superior battery life. The choice is not even close.

G2 is a sign of things to come. Seems it does quite well with a 1080p screen.

 

[alangrift]

Here is the complete list of specs on the page of LG Nexus 5 registration page of Wind Mobile, which was subsequently taken down by Wind Mobile.

Nice specs. Wonder what speeds the CPU runs at.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Back light bleed on the GS3 and GS4? Neither of those phones have back light bleed. To have back light bleed you need a phone that uses a back light. The GS3 and GS4 are AMOLED screens. They don't use a back light.

Also, you say that the Moto X feels cheap but you say good things about the S3 and S4? Samsung is the king of cheap feeling phones.

The Moto X size is closer to perfect than any other phone. It looks like the Nexus 5 might be bigger than what was stated in the FCC filing which was already pushing it for me. The size and battery life are starting to push me away from the Nexus 5. I'm really leaning towards the Moto X right now.

I'm talking about the buttons having backlight bleed. The bleed on the GS3 looks just horrendous. From a distance you just get a giant white blob from the menu button lighting up. The same with the LED. It was just a blob of light on the white GS3. The black one was more controlled, but that's the issue with white phones. On the GS4 white, they toned the backlight down a bit more and confined the area so it's not just a giant blob... same with the notification LED.

I have had plenty of 1080p phones in my hands next to 720p.

Anyone who says they can't notice a difference is lying to themselves.

The difference between a 720p and 1080p phone isn't just how sharp everything looks, it's also dependent on the dpi your phone is set to. It's likely due to dpi settings and text scaling, the text and everything will look different. However, if you set up comparable text sizing, I bet a lot of people won't notice the difference unless they were looking for it. I think a better test was if you just doubled 720p like Apple does and go to 1440p and ask if people instantly notice the difference. I bet only the techies would.

 

[lopri]

I am still sticking to the 11/14 rumor. Does anyone know the exact date Google revealed the Nexus 4?

 

[cbrunny]

October 29, 2012 w release November 13, 2012

 

[Zivic]

Yes, I've used 720 res phones.

Exactly. How anyone cannot see the difference between 312 and 469 ppi pixel density, I don't understand.

Using 720p phones is not the same as using a moto X. not all 720p screens are the same.

I'm not saying there isn't a difference from a higher resolution screen. just not a big enough one to be a deal breaker.

I use my wife's S4 side by side with my moto X and I don't feel my screen is giving up anything in a negative way to the 1080p screen. I like the color/contrast better on my moto X and I think that is a bigger factor than lower resolution....

if the phone were laggy or had a crappy android skin, or horrible camera, OK, move along, but at 4.7" the resolution is a non issue