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Crono

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Interesting...



So we know its not a N4 since there is one next to it...

It's got a LG + Nexus logo hmmm

I can't wait

Has to be a deliberate leak. I like how the a user of old Nexus and new one just happen to be standing next to each other. Granted, it is a Google event, but doubt its an accident and the timing is too good.
 

lopri

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That is clearly based on LG G2. Also it looks very much like the new Nexus 7, just in a "mini" form factor. Most notably the back looks to be soft cover similar to N7's. It has to be a prototype, though. I doubt the phone will have a logo written in landscape.

I suspect it will support LTE-A wherever it works. (Korea only?)
 

Shackanaw

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It has to be a prototype, though. I doubt the phone will have a logo written in landscape.

I've thought a little bit more about this, and I suspect that for portrait use cases (browsing the web, texting, calling), your hand would probably be covering the logo anyway. For landscape uses (gaming, watching videos, taking photos), the logo would be appropriately oriented and visible for the world to see.

In a way, it makes more sense than having a large, landscape logo does for a tablet, where the logo is rarely obstructed by your hands due to the size of the device, and use cases vary enough that you might frequently see the logo improperly oriented.
 
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Back in February, Google's vice president of engineering, Vic Gundotra, said: "We are committed to making Nexus phones insanely great cameras. Just you wait and see."

At the launch of the G2, LG touted their 13 MP camera with an optical image stabilizer (OIS) and were "keen to point out other 13MP sensors, like the one used by Samsung in the Galaxy S4, don’t use true optical image stabilization," so it might have that going for it. There are also the Kodak patents that were bought earlier this year.

The camera looks pretty prominent on that phone, and the orientation of the Nexus logo only really makes sense to me if they are emphasizing its use as a camera in landscape mode. Or, it could be like the N7 and is to emphasize video playback... or both... or they've gone mad, and have lost all sense of aesthetics. My money is on the camera thing.

We'll see. The 13MP camera is still based on last year's design plus OIS. You still need a well tweaked camera software and firmware in order to take good photos. If the colors are still washed out like on the current N4 and it lacks detail, then even OIS won't help make your photos pretty.

It does? I remember hearing it had both a front and back LED.

I was told it's only on the back as a part of the power button.
 

jpiniero

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Has to be a deliberate leak. I like how the a user of old Nexus and new one just happen to be standing next to each other. Granted, it is a Google event, but doubt its an accident and the timing is too good.

Notice the guy isn't even looking at the screen (as if he were to take a shot like the girl is)
 

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LG Nexus 5 with LTE makes probable appearance in FCC:
...A smartphone dubbed the D820 has been approved by the FCC. Certainly, we don't want to just assume that every LG phone getting Federal approval for the foreseeable future is an N5, but there are a few clues in the paperwork that give us plenty of reason to nail this down as the primary suspect: first, the image above, taken from a section detailing the device's Qi wireless charging capabilities, shows the inside of the back cover. When comparing it to the phone revealed at the HQ slip-up, the two pictures line up incredibly well.

The D820 also features 7-band LTE, some of which are compatible with AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint (bands 2/4/5/17/25/26/41), CDMA / EVDO rev A, pentaband DC-HSPA+ and quadband GSM / EDGE, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC and dual-band 802.11 b/g/n/ac. That's an amazingly healthy list of specs for your usual FCC submission, and the list of LTE bands is quite stunning as well.
No mention of Verizon yet. Also, this device doesn't support 802.11a Wi-Fi, unlike the G2. Not that that is a problem, but it could indicate that this uses a different modem or SoC than the G2.

Update: scratch what I said about Wi-Fi, it looks like it will indeed support 802.11a. Anandtech has a post by Brian Klug with some great insights: Potential Nexus 5 FCC Approval Reappears - LG-D820 (Update: Snapdragon 800, Android 4.4)
 
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Crono

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Notice the guy isn't even looking at the screen (as if he were to take a shot like the girl is)

Yeah, they are clearly posing. That dude (probably a Google employee) looks like he's happy knowing he's being filmed. It wouldnt surprise me if they were told to stand exactly there while the statue event was going on.

Not that it matters that much, it's just funny to see these companies stage leaks.
 
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gotsmack

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looks like a non-replaceable battery. That is my #1 requirement for a phone since I like to replace the battery after a year.
 

Ariae

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I just see tabs on the rear cover, so you might be able to just pry the cover off assuming they don't go crazy w/ glue. Hoping the teardown is similar to the N4.
 
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looks like a non-replaceable battery. That is my #1 requirement for a phone since I like to replace the battery after a year.
2300 mAh too... given the Nexus' traditionally terrible battery life I have little hope for the battery life. But who knows? Maybe Android 4.4 = Project Roadrunner? Haha.

Edit: My second gripe is the LTE bands. Maybe it makes more sense from a cost savings perspective or distribution perspective to have a single US model, but it makes less sense from a user perspective to give the Sprint version AT&T bands, etc. Shrug. Maybe I'm just saying this because I've been a lifelong GSM user who hops around Asia, Europe and the US for a lot of travel. I'm kinda annoyed there's no mention of Band 3 or 7, meaning I get to deal with congested-ass HSPA in Hong Kong and Taiwan some more...

SD800 w/ 5" screen is suspected.. You guys think it'll be $299?

I'm not against low prices, but the problem is low prices typically = limited features. For $299, we'll probably see some limited storage space or something. At best it'll be some 16/32gb combo that's' barely enough for Android these days. I don't mind paying $399 or $449 for something more flagship-like. Hell I'd buy a $599 GS4, so if that means 64gb and a calibrated screen, solid camera that matches whichever phone its based off of, etc I'll take it.
 
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WelshBloke

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I agree with the above.

Fixed battery and no SDcard is not acceptable unless you're offering a 64gb version with a 3000mah battery.

I get that the Nexuses are a cheap option but that shouldn't impact on their basic functions, a decent battery and storage capacity are really not pushing the cutting edge and should be easy/cheap to implement.
 

Dari

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I agree with the above.

Fixed battery and no SDcard is not acceptable unless you're offering a 64gb version with a 3000mah battery.

I get that the Nexuses are a cheap option but that shouldn't impact on their basic functions, a decent battery and storage capacity are really not pushing the cutting edge and should be easy/cheap to implement.

Go buy a different phone. There are many for the Android OS. As has been mentioned countless times, this phone is officially for developers...
 
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Go buy a different phone. There are many for the Android OS. As has been mentioned countless times, this phone is officially for developers...

Well last I checked developers aren't all shouting for an 8gb option. I get it if Google wants to offer a cheap 8gb version to penetrate the budget market and the crowd that generally doesn't go for unlocked phones in the US, but there should be a power option like 32 or 64gb at least.

Something strikes me odd when the Nexus 4 has the fastest CPU at its time, a large amount of RAM (only the GS3 US editions had 2gb), and a solid screen, yet its gimped in 1 or 2 features. So thats why I'm hoping for a more balanced approach with the N5, especially now that Google has recognized that the Nexus devices are popular.

As for this whole choice thing, come on. It's not as simple as a "don't like it don't buy it." Its not so much a preference where you can't go wrong between LCD or AMOLED. Unless you're telling me there's a large crowd clamoring for 8gb phones or whatever. I'm sure no one would complain if they offered larger storage phones.
 

Dari

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Well last I checked developers aren't all shouting for an 8gb option. I get it if Google wants to offer a cheap 8gb version to penetrate the budget market and the crowd that generally doesn't go for unlocked phones in the US, but there should be a power option like 32 or 64gb at least.

Something strikes me odd when the Nexus 4 has the fastest CPU at its time, a large amount of RAM (only the GS3 US editions had 2gb), and a solid screen, yet its gimped in 1 or 2 features. So thats why I'm hoping for a more balanced approach with the N5, especially now that Google has recognized that the Nexus devices are popular.

As for this whole choice thing, come on. It's not as simple as a "don't like it don't buy it." Its not so much a preference where you can't go wrong between LCD or AMOLED. Unless you're telling me there's a large crowd clamoring for 8gb phones or whatever. I'm sure no one would complain if they offered larger storage phones.

They are pricing this thing at cost or extremely close to cost. Just be thankful Google is doing this. Sheesh, some people will never be satisfied. Google's partners even have GPes that anyone can purchase (w/ 64GB of space or mSD slots) but you guys are still insisting that the Nexus phones come with it all at a price that'll make the ODM go out of business
 

cliftonite

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They are pricing this thing at cost or extremely close to cost. Just be thankful Google is doing this. Sheesh, some people will never be satisfied. Google's partners even have GPes that anyone can purchase (w/ 64GB of space or mSD slots) but you guys are still insisting that the Nexus phones come with it all at a price that'll make the ODM go out of business

His sense of entitlement is unreal.
 

Red Storm

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Battery life is going to be key with this phone (for me). Of course I don't expect it to match the Note 3, but if it's not even close then I just don't see myself going Nexus this round. I'm tired of one day battery life.
 

hans007

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His sense of entitlement is unreal.

yeah a lot of people commenting on the internet seem to think that companies should lose money or not make any to provide them with a new toy.

for example i've read the cost to carriers for a moto X is only $350 wholesale.

they have to pay for overhead, warehouse / rent, training sales people, costs for CSRs to handle returns, process returns, and also a buffer of profit in case it sells terribly and they have to clearance them etc.

the wholesale cost of something is definitely not the entire cost of a product (my father works at an OEM in reverse logistics.... did you know the box for a PC full tower costs $12?, etc)

seeing as this phone probably costs more to make than a moto x + all the associated costs, honesty i would still be a screaming deal at $450 for a 16gb.
 

Ariae

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They are pricing this thing at cost or extremely close to cost. Just be thankful Google is doing this. Sheesh, some people will never be satisfied. Google's partners even have GPes that anyone can purchase (w/ 64GB of space or mSD slots) but you guys are still insisting that the Nexus phones come with it all at a price that'll make the ODM go out of business

He did say he wouldn't mind paying more for better specs.

I'm thinking Google will probably offer the N4 @ $299ish and the N5 @ 399ish.
 

Ariae

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That's what the GPE devices are for no?

I can see your point but are you sure GPe devices will continue to roll out as new models are released? After seeing on XDA how Samsung and Google are pointing fingers at each other over some minor issues w/ the S4 GPe, I think these GPe phones were more of a stop gap solution/experiment.
 
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