The official Nexus 5 thread.

[Kelvinz]

The Nexus 4 does have a cooler white (higher temp) but the difference in the shot is way overblown due to incandescent light. I took a new shot which looks closer to the actual screens.

Original: http://i.imgur.com/oPNOWRE.jpg

Both look good and I would not be able to notice a difference in real life.

 

[sweenish]

It's worth noting that the AT review says the N5 is one of the most color-accurate smartphones on the market. I'll take accurate over saturated any day.

 

[vshah]

I believe so. If you change anything in the System folder so much as simply changing boot animation, you probably won't receive OTA.

i believe you'll receive it but it will fail to apply.

 

[lopri]

Gotcha. That makes sense.

Wait but then how do people apply it with sideloading?

 

[vshah]

Gotcha. That makes sense.

Wait but then how do people apply it with sideloading?

i had to flash back a stock system partition before It would sideload successfully. recovery partition doesn't matter, just system. the update checks hash on existing files before updating them, and if hashes don't match it will fail.

 

[soccerballtux]

I no longer like this phone. The screen isn't wide enough. Too many apps waste too much space on the margins.

 

[Imported]

Is Sprint the only carrier you can get the Nexus 5 with a contract? Tied to AT&T and there's no incentive to buy off-contract. Looking for a replacement phone for the iPhone 4S my fiance has.

 

[Sid59]

yep only sprint will subsidize. If you wanted tmo and finance, that's an option.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

It's worth noting that the AT review says the N5 is one of the most color-accurate smartphones on the market. I'll take accurate over saturated any day.

Brian presents one overly optimistic view. While he's mostly right, he doesn't touch on the fact that the screen's colors are calibrated to Gamma 2.0. I'm not telling people to turn up the colors til they pop and they're satisfied... there's a group of individuals on XDA using colorimeters to try to get to Gamma 2.2 and to avoid any banding and other side effects.

Edit: It also seems like Android 4.4.2 had some color tweaks built in.

 

[Imported]

yep only sprint will subsidize. If you wanted tmo and finance, that's an option.

Damn. I guess getting the 5S upgrade and selling the phone would be the best option then.

 

[LtMikePowelll]

How's the battery life? Cause I have a galaxy note 2 and the batter life is exceptional

 

[jimv1983]

It's worth noting that the AT review says the N5 is one of the most color-accurate smartphones on the market. I'll take accurate over saturated any day.

I guess that depends on your definition of "accurate". When it comes to comparing to real life what a lot of people seem to think of as over saturated is actually realistic saturation and what some people consider "accurate" is actually under saturated and appears washed out.

That is why AMOLED is better. The saturation is actually realistic and life like instead of washed out.

 

[kevinsbane]

I guess that depends on your definition of "accurate". When it comes to comparing to real life what a lot of people seem to think of as over saturated is actually realistic saturation and what some people consider "accurate" is actually under saturated and appears washed out.

That is why AMOLED is better. The saturation is actually realistic and life like instead of washed out.

Accurate to sRGB - the standard of the internet. Your "life like colour" will not be "life like" on any other device - including well calibrated, wide gamut aRGB monitors (which should be even more "life like", according to your definition).

At least the well calibrated screen on the N5 is consistent and will show you exactly what you are supposed to see, which is the same as what someone else will see on his or her calibrated device.

 

[Ravynmagi]

I don't like this phone. The screen isn't wide enough. Too many apps waste too much space on the margins.

I got a phone for you!

 

[Ravynmagi]

Google is shipping a Nexus 5 with slight hardware changes.
http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-5-refresh-brings-minor-design-changes-20131213/

The speaker/mic holes on the bottom are a tiny bit larger, the SIM card slot is completely flush (apparently it sticks out a tiny bit on the original design), and the buttons are more firm.

Though on my day one Nexus 5, my SIM slot does seem pretty flush and I haven't had any complaint about rattling buttons. But I guess a slightly better Nexus 5 is shipping now.

 

[tsupersonic]

Interesting...My SIM card slot is also flush, and my volume/power buttons don't rattle. I'm coming from an HTC One, so the speakers in the N5 will never win me over (even with the slightly bigger speaker grille). It sounds terrible, it's placed wrong, and there is only one.

 

[soccerballtux]

I got a phone for you!

wow that's nice. where to get that?

 

[Ravynmagi]

wow that's nice. where to get that?

That's the LG Vu 3. It's a Korean only phone. but has a 4:3 aspect ratio.

 

[lopri]

I don't like this phone. The screen isn't wide enough. Too many apps waste too much space on the margins.

It actually gets a little annoying indeed especially if you are used to a wider screen that shows more contents. In some apps I have to scroll down the screen to select an option or menu that used to reside at the bottom of the screen on the Nexus 4, and it quickly became a pet peeve of mine.

How's the battery life? Cause I have a galaxy note 2 and the batter life is exceptional

It's no Note 2/3 but it is competitive to phones with similar battery sizes. If you root and disable the Google launcher and whatever services you do not need it gets much better than other phones.

 

[jimv1983]

Accurate to sRGB - the standard of the internet. Your "life like colour" will not be "life like" on any other device - including well calibrated, wide gamut aRGB monitors (which should be even more "life like", according to your definition).

At least the well calibrated screen on the N5 is consistent and will show you exactly what you are supposed to see, which is the same as what someone else will see on his or her calibrated device.

If that is the case the sRGB standard needs some serious changes. Just because someone determined it was a "standard" doesn't mean the colors are true or "accurate".

http://discussions.nokia.com/discus...ith_Windows_Phone/34227/1/WP_20130106_001.jpg

Take this green picture as an example. A side by side comparison of this green image between my old Galaxy SII and my Nexus 5 shows the Galaxy SII as the clear winner(about the only thing it beats the Nexus 5 at). The Galaxy SII actually showed the image at a realistic level of saturation while the Nexus 5 showed the image with too low of a saturation level which made it appear very washed out and faded. Green seemed to be the worst but the problem was noticeable on red and blue as well. AMOLED was a clear advantage over LCD although I don't think that means the LCD isn't capable of great colors. The Sony 4K TV is an LCD and it has AMAZING colors. The colors are the biggest selling point of the TV.

Take a picture with a high end camera and view the exact same picture on an AMOLED based phone and an LCD based phone and compare the image to the image was taken from. The AMOLED screen will generally look much closer to what you see with your own eyes.

So to say that colors are "accurate" to that sRGB "standard" might very well be true but that doesn't mean the colors are truly accurate. It just means that the "standard" is flawed.

 

[jimv1983]

Google is shipping a Nexus 5 with slight hardware changes.
http://androidcommunity.com/nexus-5-refresh-brings-minor-design-changes-20131213/

The speaker/mic holes on the bottom are a tiny bit larger, the SIM card slot is completely flush (apparently it sticks out a tiny bit on the original design), and the buttons are more firm.

Though on my day one Nexus 5, my SIM slot does seem pretty flush and I haven't had any complaint about rattling buttons. But I guess a slightly better Nexus 5 is shipping now.

I bought my Nexus 5 on release day. My SIM tray is also flush with the phone. My buttons do rattle but only if I shake the phone and even then it is only minor and it doesn't have any impact on their function or solid feel while using them. Plus, who shakes their phone? I also had issues with the speaker being too quiet when I first got the phone but the 4.4.2 update has seemed to fix that.

There are really only a few things I would want to change about the Nexus 5 at this point.

1. AMOLED over LCD. I really miss the AMOLED of my Galaxy SII(although I don't miss much else about that phone which for the most part was a piece of shit)

2. The vibration intensity is VERY weak. With my Galaxy S II I could leave it on vibrate and set it on my desk and actually hear the sound it made by vibrating. That is almost impossible with the Nexus 5.

3. It is too big. One handed use is awkward(and no I don't have small hands) and comfortable pocketability is a thing of the past. Although this is really an issue with all current Android phones. I guess I'll just have to get use to not having comfortable one handed use and comfortable pocketability.

4. Battery life could be better. The overall battery life isn't bad but it isn't great either. It's just OK. However the fact that it has only a 2,300mAh batter with a 5" 1080p IPS LCD screen and still gets the battery life it gets is pretty impressive. Especially compared to my Galaxy S II that had only a 20% smaller battery and a 4.5" 480x800 AMOLED(which is a much better screen in terms of power usage). The stand by time is (at least most of the time) amazing.

 

[noacess]

This thread makes me jealous. I wish Verizon didn't have to be a bunch of toolbags.

 

[kevinsbane]

If that is the case the sRGB standard needs some serious changes. Just because someone determined it was a "standard" doesn't mean the colors are true or "accurate".

sRGB is a standard RGB color space created cooperatively by HP and Microsoft in 1996 for use on monitors, printers and the Internet.

Take a picture with a high end camera and view the exact same picture on an AMOLED based phone and an LCD based phone and compare the image to the image was taken from. The AMOLED screen will generally look much closer to what you see with your own eyes.

So to say that colors are "accurate" to that sRGB "standard" might very well be true but that doesn't mean the colors are truly accurate. It just means that the "standard" is flawed.

Perhaps. The sRGB standard isn't going away anytime soon though, as it is, literally, the standard of the internet, of home monitors, and home printers.

To put it this way, if you watch a movie, the N5 will display the right colours as the director intends; an SGII will not. If you look at a website, the colours will be correct on an N5, but not an SGII. Your preference may be different, but sRGB is what's used for everything that you use as a consumer.

 

[jimv1983]

Perhaps. The sRGB standard isn't going away anytime soon though, as it is, literally, the standard of the internet, of home monitors, and home printers.

To put it this way, if you watch a movie, the N5 will display the right colours as the director intends; an SGII will not. If you look at a website, the colours will be correct on an N5, but not an SGII. Your preference may be different, but sRGB is what's used for everything that you use as a consumer.

As you mentioned sRGB was created for the internet and printers. It is not what the movie industry uses. That is why a good TV (even an LCD) has better colors than a phone.

Compare the red, green or blue of a good TV to an LCD phone and an AMOLED phone. The TV will have closer colors to the AMOLED.

So no the Nexus 5 wouldn't be closer to what the director was intending. The AMOLED would be.

You are still assuming that just because Microsoft and HP created the standard of sRGB that makes the colors "correct".

 

[kevinsbane]

As you mentioned sRGB was created for the internet and printers. It is not what the movie industry uses. That is why a good TV (even an LCD) has better colors than a phone.

Compare the red, green or blue of a good TV to an LCD phone and an AMOLED phone. The TV will have closer colors to the AMOLED.

So no the Nexus 5 wouldn't be closer to what the director was intending. The AMOLED would be.

You are still assuming that just because Microsoft and HP created the standard of sRGB that makes the colors "correct".

It is *precisely* what the movie industry uses. There is a very good reason why "movie mode" is the most colour accurate mode of the S4 and the note 3. A good TV will actually look similar to the N5 (or S4/note 3 in movie mode), because it would have been calibrated to sRGB. If it isn't and looks more like an GSII screen (ie, over saturated, more "punchy") it is by definition not a good TV.

Why would the movie editors bother to use anything other than sRGB if the overwhelming majority (more than 99%) of the world cannot reproduce the colour of their media if they used something like aRGB? Then 99% of the world would be showing the wrong colours.

I make the assumption that sRGB is correct because it is factual. There is no other standard used by the general public at this time in any significant number. Stuff is made in and made for sRGB. Take your beef up with the standard. Don't try to conflate what you think looks better with what actually is correct.