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jimv1983

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Recently bought Nexus 5 and yesterday while talking it got off due to battery getting low . At this time i put the same to charge with my laptop and after half an hour also the same could be switched on , today while contacting the LG service centre they confirmed that it would only turn on after put ro charge for at least 2 hrs. and it is not like one of the other phones which may be immidiately turned on when put to recharge .

I've never had that problem. The few times my phone has died from a dead battery it turns on pretty fast after putting it on the charger.
 

Radeon962

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Also, given the huge screen, 1080p resolution and TouchWiz I'm pretty skeptical of Radeon962's good battery life claims of the Note 3.

The battery in the Note 3 is 3200 mAh. Nexus 4 2100 mAh and Nexus 5 2300 mAh.

I run screen brightness at 25% as Samsung's Auto setting is not good. If you crank the screen up to 100% then yes, you can burn through battery quickly but you would also burn your eyes out as it is excessively bright.

My battery life on the Note 3 (and the Nexus 5 as well) is pretty similar to what they found under this testing:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...est-a-monster-in-faux-leather-clothes_id50748

If you have never owned and used a Note 3 as your daily driver it is hard to believe how long the battery does last. I'm by no means bashing the Nexus 5 as it was as an excellent phone while I had it. If the Nexus 5 had a bigger batter it would be nearly perfect for me. I loved everything about it but just had issues with battery life.

I would imagine that I'll get a Nexus 6 in the Fall and hopefully Google/LG have some tricks up their sleeve or at least a larger battery.
 
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openwheel

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My Note 3 has great battery life which is the one main reason I still use it. It idles forever and tethers all day long.
 

TiredEngineer

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I had a Note 2...now have a Nexus 5. Overall fairly disappointed with my battery.

I use maps in the morning and afternoon to find best route around traffic. So I would like to use maps for about 60 minutes of screen on...mp3s for maybe 2-3 hours a day with screen mostly off...and 30+ minutes of youtube at lunch...with some random surfing here and there (maybe 15-30 minutes). When I tried this "standard work day" I was at roughly 10% before my drive home in the afternoon (only 2 hours of screen on).

My Note 2 could easily handle this. I overall love Google and their products, but their insistence on using small batteries is really making me angry. I have been holding out buying a tablet waiting on the Nexus 10 2 if it ever comes...but if it is anything like the first gen when it comes to battery I will be going with the iPad Air 2 even though I basically swore off Apple.

I don't think I could ever give up an Android phone, unless iOS got widgets and a large phone...then I would seriously have to consider changing with the superior battery life.
 

jimv1983

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The battery in the Note 3 is 3200 mAh. Nexus 4 2100 mAh and Nexus 5 2300 mAh....

The Note 3 also has TouchWiz which is a HUGE battery drain. The Note 3 may very well have better battery life than the Nexus 5(although I'm skeptical that the difference is that big) and with a 40% bigger battery it SHOULD have better battery life but battery life per mAh will be better on the Nexus 5. That is to say that if the Nexus 5 also had a 3200mAh battery it would destroy the Note 3. Look at the Galaxy S4. It has a 13% bigger battery than the Nexus 5 and an AMOLED screen(which should be better on power than the Nexus 5's IPS LCD) so it should be better than the Nexus 5 but it isn't.

My Note 3 has great battery life which is the one main reason I still use it. It idles forever and tethers all day long.

I guess that depends on what you consider to be "great" battery life. As far as I'm concerned no phone has "great" battery life.

I had a Note 2...now have a Nexus 5. Overall fairly disappointed with my battery.

I use maps in the morning and afternoon to find best route around traffic. So I would like to use maps for about 60 minutes of screen on...mp3s for maybe 2-3 hours a day with screen mostly off...and 30+ minutes of youtube at lunch...with some random surfing here and there (maybe 15-30 minutes). When I tried this "standard work day" I was at roughly 10% before my drive home in the afternoon (only 2 hours of screen on).

My Note 2 could easily handle this. I overall love Google and their products, but their insistence on using small batteries is really making me angry. I have been holding out buying a tablet waiting on the Nexus 10 2 if it ever comes...but if it is anything like the first gen when it comes to battery I will be going with the iPad Air 2 even though I basically swore off Apple.

I don't think I could ever give up an Android phone, unless iOS got widgets and a large phone...then I would seriously have to consider changing with the superior battery life.

Not sure what is wrong with your Nexus 5. Doing similar tasks I can get like 3 hours screen on time over like a 16 hour period.

Also, as far as your claim about the first gen Nexus 10 having battery issues I don't know what you are talking about. The battery life on my Nexus 10 is pretty damn good. With the extremely light usage it has been getting lately(about 3 hours screen on time) it lasts like 15 days off the charger. With heavy constant use I get like 10-12 hours. I'd say that is pretty damn good. Also, after having it for 16 months I have not seen any decrease in battery life due to the age of the battery. In fact, with the KitKat update it has actually gotten a little bit better.
 

Radeon962

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The Note 3 also has TouchWiz which is a HUGE battery drain. The Note 3 may very well have better battery life than the Nexus 5(although I'm skeptical that the difference is that big) and with a 40% bigger battery it SHOULD have better battery life but battery life per mAh will be better on the Nexus 5. That is to say that if the Nexus 5 also had a 3200mAh battery it would destroy the Note 3. Look at the Galaxy S4. It has a 13% bigger battery than the Nexus 5 and an AMOLED screen(which should be better on power than the Nexus 5's IPS LCD) so it should be better than the Nexus 5 but it isn't.

I can only go by my experience. I purchased and used an original launch day Nexus 5 and picked up a Rev_11 version later that I also used for quite some time. Never owned the Rev_12 version. There is no comparison between the Note 3 and Nexus 5 battery and I did not mean to say there was as obviously the Note 3 battery is bigger.

But that is what the phone has so it should last longer and it does. For me it's about 2 extra hours of actual screen on time which is significant.

Nexus 5 is my favorite phone of the year to date, but the Note 3 is a very capable phone in it's own right and the extra screen real estate is really nice after a very short period of time. Throw in a great camera and exceptional battery life and for me it's the best option available currently.
 

RossMAN

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I can only go by my experience. I purchased and used an original launch day Nexus 5 and picked up a Rev_11 version later that I also used for quite some time. Never owned the Rev_12 version.

How do you find which version N5 you own? Is there a list of N5 versions?
 

Radeon962

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Check your serial # or look at the Revision # listed in bootloader.

How can I tell which version I have?

The way to tell which version of Google's Nexus 5 you have is to check your serial number. Models with serial numbers beginning 310k are the original models, while the 311k models are the second revision and the 312k models appear to the very latest versions.

An even more accurate way to get find out which version you have is to start up the bootloader and check your hardware revision number, but this is only recommended for advanced users. What your looking for is either REV_10 (October), REV_11 (November) or REV_12 (December).

Enter Fastboot/bootloader... From OFF, Press Power button while holding Volume Down. There will be a "HW Version" listed here once it comes up. Use the volume up/down keys to select options to exit and press the Power button for your selection. BE CAREFUL you select what you want as you can do a full reset from here.
 
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lothar

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Does LG just suck at speakers and headphone volume? It was an issue with my OGP. I read the G2 has crap speakers, and the N5 has both terrible speakers and now I'm learning crap headphone volume too?

The only Android manufacturer that knows how to make a phone with good speakers is Motorola.
HTC doesn't know how to make a phone with good speakers unless they put it in front, which makes the phone look hideous.
LG is one of the worst when it comes to speakers.
Samsung is meh...better than LG, but worse than Motorola. In other words, average.
 

lothar

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This is so very true, however I almost never listen through my phone's speakers so I ended up not missing it that much after selling my One.

Still though, every phone should have front facing speakers. The difference is extremely noticeable.

Hell to the no.
You don't need to have front facing speakers to get good audio.
Almost every website that reviewed the Moto X touched on this.
 

lothar

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Nexus 5 battery problem comes from the highly aggressive "auto" brightness setting.
Download an app called "Lux" from the Play Store, set it to"auto" and forget about it.
 

WelshBloke

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Hell to the no.
You don't need to have front facing speakers to get good audio.
Almost every website that reviewed the Moto X touched on this.


I dont know. I can see the argument for front speakers.

I use my phone as a satnav a lot and having front speakers would be advantageous in that. I use it for podcasts in the car as well and thats when I realise that I need speakers firing at me rather than into the dashboard.

It is a bit weird that we've all accepted that the normal place to put speakers is on the opposite side of the device, firing away from us.
 

jimv1983

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Check your serial # or look at the Revision # listed in bootloader.

How can I tell which version I have?

The way to tell which version of Google's Nexus 5 you have is to check your serial number. Models with serial numbers beginning 310k are the original models, while the 311k models are the second revision and the 312k models appear to the very latest versions.

An even more accurate way to get find out which version you have is to start up the bootloader and check your hardware revision number, but this is only recommended for advanced users. What your looking for is either REV_10 (October), REV_11 (November) or REV_12 (December).

Enter Fastboot/bootloader... From OFF, Press Power button while holding Volume Down. There will be a "HW Version" listed here once it comes up. Use the volume up/down keys to select options to exit and press the Power button for your selection. BE CAREFUL you select what you want as you can do a full reset from here.

According to the box my Nexus 5 came in I have a REV_10 phone which makes sense considering I ordered it on release day. One odd thing I noticed is the serial number on the box doesn't match the serial number I get from the phone under Settings > About Phone > Status > Serial Number

The only Android manufacturer that knows how to make a phone with good speakers is Motorola.
HTC doesn't know how to make a phone with good speakers unless they put it in front, which makes the phone look hideous.
LG is one of the worst when it comes to speakers.
Samsung is meh...better than LG, but worse than Motorola. In other words, average.

I agree about the speakers on the front(like the HTC One) making the phone look hideous. Speaker quality on my phone doesn't matter much to me since I hardly ever use the speaker on the phone anyways.

I dont know. I can see the argument for front speakers.

I use my phone as a satnav a lot and having front speakers would be advantageous in that. I use it for podcasts in the car as well and thats when I realise that I need speakers firing at me rather than into the dashboard.

It is a bit weird that we've all accepted that the normal place to put speakers is on the opposite side of the device, firing away from us.

Your car's audio system doesn't have an audio in jack? That has been standard on even non-luxury cars(like Corolla and Civic) for years now.
 
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WelshBloke

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Your car's audio system doesn't have an audio in jack? That has been standard on even non-luxury cars(like Corolla and Civic) for years now.

I'd rather not dick around with cables trailing all over the dashboard if my phone came with speakers that were adequate for the job.
 

lothar

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I dont know. I can see the argument for front speakers.

I use my phone as a satnav a lot and having front speakers would be advantageous in that. I use it for podcasts in the car as well and thats when I realise that I need speakers firing at me rather than into the dashboard.

It is a bit weird that we've all accepted that the normal place to put speakers is on the opposite side of the device, firing away from us.
Speakers on the front = More additional bezels and/or less space for the screen, and/or unnecessary bigger phone, and/or in the case of HTC...hiding the notification LED by the speaker grill.

What's even weirder is that we've all seem to automatically accepted that it's not possible to make a decent speaker on the opposite side of the device, firing away from us due to the HTC One front facing speaker. Motorola shows us that it's possible.


Almost every review I've read about the Moto X praises the speakers.
When the HTC One first came out, the difference between it and other phones in speaker volume was huge. Now it's not so much anymore.
 

Radeon962

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Nexus 5 battery problem comes from the highly aggressive "auto" brightness setting.
Download an app called "Lux" from the Play Store, set it to"auto" and forget about it.

I purchased the pro version of Lux as I had used the free version in the past and like to support the dev's of apps I use so that they can keep on improving it.

Did not make a significant difference in my actual screen on time with the Nexus 5. Standby was excellent as if you are not using the phone there is very minimal battery drain.
 

WelshBloke

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Speakers on the front = More additional bezels and/or less space for the screen, and/or unnecessary bigger phone, and/or in the case of HTC...hiding the notification LED by the speaker grill.

What's even weirder is that we've all seem to automatically accepted that it's not possible to make a decent speaker on the opposite side of the device, firing away from us due to the HTC One front facing speaker. Motorola shows us that it's possible.


Almost every review I've read about the Moto X praises the speakers.
When the HTC One first came out, the difference between it and other phones in speaker volume was huge. Now it's not so much anymore.

I agree that speakers on the front involve a trade off on bezel size but I dont agree that theres an argument for the best place for a speaker to be.

You can make a good speaker firing away from the user, but thats going to be reliant on the surroundings to bounce the sound back, other than that I'm not sure how the sound is going to get to the user.
 

lothar

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I agree that speakers on the front involve a trade off on bezel size but I dont agree that theres an argument for the best place for a speaker to be.

You can make a good speaker firing away from the user, but thats going to be reliant on the surroundings to bounce the sound back, other than that I'm not sure how the sound is going to get to the user.
If HTC decides to try putting the speakers on the side like the Nexus 5, that could solve the bezel size issue. Maybe someone can pick up from where LG/Google fumbled with the Nexus 5.

Regarding the argument for the best place for a speaker to be, how is having it in the front better than on the side? In both cases, there is little to no obstruction and you're not that much reliant on the surroundings to bounce the sound back.
 

lothar

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I purchased the pro version of Lux as I had used the free version in the past and like to support the dev's of apps I use so that they can keep on improving it.

Did not make a significant difference in my actual screen on time with the Nexus 5. Standby was excellent as if you are not using the phone there is very minimal battery drain.
It did for my Nexus 5.
As soon as I noticed the significant increase in screen on time, I tried it on my Nexus 7 and there was no difference.

The only logical conclusion I can make based on that is it's a problem with the Nexus 5 and auto brightness settings.
 

WelshBloke

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Regarding the argument for the best place for a speaker to be, how is having it in the front better than on the side? In both cases, there is little to no obstruction and you're not that much reliant on the surroundings to bounce the sound back.

I'm not sure how there's even an argument here. Stereo speakers firing directly at the listener are going to be better than a mono speaker firing 90 degrees away from the listener.
 

lothar

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I'm not sure how there's even an argument here. Stereo speakers firing directly at the listener are going to be better than a mono speaker firing 90 degrees away from the listener.
How do you know the front facing speaker is firing directly at the user?
How do you know the bottom side facing speaker isn't firing directly at the user?

You don't know what the person that is using it is and you're just throwing things into the air at this point.
The person could be sitting in a cube, driving, standing, or doing something else with the phone in any particular orientation.

At work, I stand all day and don't keep anything on my table that isn't essential to work. I put my phone on my computer monitor strand so yes, the side speaker is facing me almost 180° directly and not just shooting sound to the ceiling and bouncing all over the place.

Mono speaker is one of the shortcomings of the LG/Google Nexus. Maybe someone can make that stereo the next go around.
 

jimv1983

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With all this talk of speaker placement I had an idea. What about having the speaker on the bottom like the Nexus 5 and one on the top by the headphone jack but have the internal speaker under the speaker grill be at an angle to direct the sound forward toward the user instead of out and away from the user. It would allow the sound to be directed forward more like the HTC One but at the same time not adding to the bezel size.
 

nexus5rocks

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Hi all, just got my Nexus 5.
What kernel/ROM combo should I use for best battery life and stability?
Do I lose 'OK Google' by going custom?
 
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