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dlock13

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10/15 date was a recent rumor. What I had heard/read somewhere was 11/14. (a rumor from weeks ago)

Selling the Nexus 4 alongside with the Nexus 5 doesn't make sense to me for the two devices share similar portability. The two even share similar physical shapes from the leaks I have seen. I will give that 2% chance of happening only because I can never say never. But I just don't see that happening.

$400 for the base model is likewise a baseless speculation, and one that seems to me exceedingly unlikely. I mean, it is not difficult to pick a number around $300, $350, $400 and claim "I've heard of it." Personally, $400 and above prices are encroaching too close to regular unsubsidized prices of mid-to-high end phones.

If they bring the Nexus 4 back with LTE at a $300 when they dropped pricing to $250, then that is ridiculous IMO. I hope that is not the case when the N5 comes out.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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October 28th makes sense. Let's hope there are no natural disasters this time!

Is this when the phone will be announced with full specs or will this be when the phone is available for purchase from the play store?
 

dlock13

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Is this when the phone will be announced with full specs or will this be when the phone is available for purchase from the play store?

I feel like it would make sense to have the phone announced that day seeing as how the Nexus 4 wasn't released till 2 weeks later (Nov 13, 2012) when it was announced on the 29th of October last year.
 

zerocool84

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Is this when the phone will be announced with full specs or will this be when the phone is available for purchase from the play store?

No one has any idea since the phone hasn't been announced yet, for all we know it could be available that day or weeks after. Everything I repeat, everything in this thread is speculation and rumors.
 

Strk

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I feel like it would make sense to have the phone announced that day seeing as how the Nexus 4 wasn't released till 2 weeks later (Nov 13, 2012) when it was announced on the 29th of October last year.

Wasn't that because of the hurricane though? I know they had supply issues as well, but the initial delay was from Sandy.
 

Ravynmagi

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Wasn't that because of the hurricane though? I know they had supply issues as well, but the initial delay was from Sandy.

Don't think the hurricane had anything to do with the actual product launch. Just canceling the announcement event.
 
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Wasn't that because of the hurricane though? I know they had supply issues as well, but the initial delay was from Sandy.
Sandy hit the east coast, but I guarantee you the supply was coming from Asia anyway. The supply issue was due to poor planning from Google and LG.
 

s44

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I disagree, I like them.
They are not only a pain to see, but they make the bottom icon row look like an awkward second layer.

Fortunately with Android we can change this stuff (and on my S4 I'll never see 'em anyway).
 

dlock13

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They are not only a pain to see, but they make the bottom icon row look like an awkward second layer.

Fortunately with Android we can change this stuff (and on my S4 I'll never see 'em anyway).

Don't forget, it might not be real!

I don't mind either way. I just want KitKat and the Nexus 5!
 

vshah

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N4s was good sized as well, i imagine N5 will be similar. Can't beat the N1's giant glowing trackball though!
 
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jimv1983

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Fortunately with Android we can change this stuff (and on my S4 I'll never see 'em anyway).

That is just ONE of the reasons I wouldn't get a Samsung phone. I HATE the hardware buttons. I was so happy when 4.0 (ICS) was released and made them unnecessary. Very upsetting that so many manufactures continue to use them.
 

jimv1983

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How exactly is 2300mAh half of 3000mAh?
If you truely believe 2300mAh is half of 3000mAh, then I wonder what school you went to.

You obviously don't know how the batteries work. Of course 2300 is more than half of 3000. 2300/3000 = ~77% the size. The problem is that batteries don't discharge at a linear rate. The more discharged a battery is the faster it discharges. If you pay attention you will notice that 100%-50% lasts longer than 50%-0%. 100%-99% is much longer than 1%-0%. So, with a smaller battery the rate of discharge will increase faster than it would with a larger battery. It might not be exactly half but it's closer to half than 77%.


Well for a 2100mAh battery, the Nexus 4 got pretty bad battery life. Hopefully battery life is much improved regardless of the small size increase, but there's no question it's going to be substantially lower than the G2 which is one of the few all day phones.

I don't have a Nexus 4 but the user reviews seem to match with your description. That is the problem. The Nexus 5 only has 200mAh more battery but it has a 5" 1920x1080 screen instead of the 4.7" 1280x768 screen of the Nexus 4. The Nexus 5's Snapdragon 800 is better than the Nexus 4's S4 Pro for battery life and KitKat might have some battery life optimizations but the screen causes the most power usage on any phone. I'm not expecting the battery life to be much better than the Nexus 4.
 
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You obviously don't know how the batteries work. Of course 2300 is more than half of 3000. 2300/3000 = ~77% the size. The problem is that batteries don't discharge at a linear rate. The more discharged a battery is the faster it discharges. If you pay attention you will notice that 100%-50% lasts longer than 50%-0%. 100%-99% is much longer than 1%-0%. So, with a smaller battery the rate of discharge will increase faster than it would with a larger battery. It might not be exactly half but it's closer to half than 77%.

I don't have a Nexus 4 but the user reviews seem to match with your description. That is the problem. The Nexus 5 only has 200mAh more battery but it has a 5" 1920x1080 screen instead of the 4.7" 1280x768 screen of the Nexus 4. The Nexus 5's Snapdragon 800 is better than the Nexus 4's S4 Pro for battery life and KitKat might have some battery life optimizations but the screen causes the most power usage on any phone. I'm not expecting the battery life to be much better than the Nexus 4.

The Snapdragon 800 power efficiency is stressed too often. If your screen is off and your phone is in your pocket, you will get great idle time. The issue with Android right now is wakelocks, and if the OS, apps, and hardware are setup properly, idle times should be great. Look how long an iPhone can idle for as an example.

The Nexus 4's battery issues were plagued by the msm_hsic wakelocks which came from the hardware design. If that gets addressed in the Nexus 5, I'd be willing to bet the battery will skyrocket. Remember, battery life is a domino effect in Android. Syncs for example typically happen opportunistically, so when the phone wakes up, a sync might try to take advantage of that wake time by the radio and perform the sync. So the more you have the phone waking up, the more it will sync. This sorta explains why my Google+ can sync for 5 minutes a day when I get like 2 posts a day in my news feed.

The funny thing is on the past few phones I've used, the Moto Milestone/Droid, Nexus One, Nexus S, GS2, I've felt that they're barely enough to get through the day. Interestingly enough, almost 4 years later, I'm still facing the same issues on my Nexus 4. And even then I swear I used my Motorola Milestone/Droid with similar usage patterns.
 

s44

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You picked the worst-battery Android phone of its generation and you're complaining?

In real-world conditions the S4 will idle longer than any iPhone.
 
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