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code65536

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Wow, I just got a shipping notice (wait, today's Sunday!). 16GB black, ordered at Oct 31, 2013 2:10:11 PM CDT--over an hour after orders had opened up (after the page had cycled through a period of "out of inventory"). So compared to the N4, where I ordered earlier and had shipment delayed for weeks after the promised ship date, this is such a better experience.
 

lothar

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Bah...I see the time has increased from "2-3 weeks" to "3-4 weeks".
I also see that the 16GB version of both models are OOS now. Prior to my earlier post, both 16GB models had said "3-4 weeks".

I went ahead and pulled the trigger on 32GB Black because I don't want the same OOS issue to happen to me and I'm not sure how long Google will keep going with this(4-5 weeks? 5-6 weeks? etc...or is there a hard cap on a certain number of weeks before they officially mark a phone model as OOS?), even though I won't need the phone until almost a month after that. It will sit there unopened for sometime.
"Leaves warehouse on 11/22/13"
I just received a shipping notification about 30 minutes ago which is way earlier than expected...and I ordered on 11/01 at 2:11 AM which was 12 hours later than everyone else.
Excellent launch performance by Google...Much better than the ruckus launch that happened last year.
 

lothar

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I'm traveling in Asia right now and having a hard time placing an order.
Trying to add to cart but it won't let me.
Can anyone tell me if its the site or its me in Asia.
Probably has to do with Asia. I'm sure if you use a proxy or remote desktop, it might work.
Either have a family member order one for you(or give them your Google account info)

Or just wait until you get back.
There's plenty of units in stock, so there's no rush.
I ordered on 11/01 at 2:11 AM and the order was expected to leave the warehouse and be shipped on 11/22/13, but I just got a shipping notice stating it has shipped.
 
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I'm surprised at how many of you are getting this before waiting for a decent review.

The thing is people will get this phone regardless unless the reviews are THAT bad. It's highly unlikely this phone would be any worse than the N4, and considering how that phone was severely limited in many ways, everyone still ended up jumping on board.

And come on, try to apply that logic to the iPhone fans who line up or preorder the next iPhone before waiting for a review.

#firstworld problems: I have a team outing on Monday and a business trip on Tuesday. So if my shipping & receiving department at work doesn't drop the box at my desk on Monday and holds it, I won't be able to get it til I return on Thursday. Sigh. Considering skipping the team outing. It's a project team not my functional team so at least that's understandable that "I have work to do before my business trip."
 
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WelshBloke

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The thing is people will get this phone regardless unless the reviews are THAT bad. It's highly unlikely this phone would be any worse than the N4, and considering how that phone was severely limited in many ways, everyone still ended up jumping on board.

Well it's obviously going to be better than the N4, most phones are better than their predecessors.
I get that the Nexuses are great budget options but I don't get the "buy it, ah heck the reviews" attitude.

And come on, try to apply that logic to the iPhone fans who line up or preorder the next iPhone before waiting for a review.

Well I think they are odd as well.
 
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Well it's obviously going to be better than the N4, most phones are better than their predecessors.
I get that the Nexuses are great budget options but I don't get the "buy it, ah heck the reviews" attitude.



Well I think they are odd as well.
The thing for me is that features like:

- runs AOSP, no manufacturer bloat
- developer friendly = CM will work in no time

are FAR more important than what reviews will say. So sure, I put up with the N4's crappy camera, bad battery, low storage, back sliding off the $60 wireless charging puck, etc. It's not optimal, but I'm not really eyeing another phone anyway. And unless the N5 is THAT bad, there's little chance of me buying a GS4 GPE even if that is my backup choice.

For people who could just as easily swing to an HTC One/G2/GS4 to a N5 or vice versa, yes I think those people should wait for reviews. You mentioned to me you do like some of what TouchWiz brings and that bloat isn't as big of a deal for you, so yeah I would think that for you, there's not enough out there in a Nexus to compel you to get one. For me, and probably some other users here, it's pretty much Nexus or nothing. BTW, I feel just like an iFan saying things like this.
 

WelshBloke

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The thing for me is that features like:

- runs AOSP, no manufacturer bloat
- developer friendly = CM will work in no time

are FAR more important than what reviews will say.

Does bloat matter if it doesn't impact performance.

Would you prefer a phone that performs well even with bloat over one that performs badly without?

So sure, I put up with the N4's crappy camera, bad battery, low storage, back sliding off the $60 wireless charging puck, etc.

Why would you put up with that? Shouldn't we guide manufacturers buy buying what's good rather than what's crappy?

It's not optimal, but I'm not really eyeing another phone anyway. And unless the N5 is THAT bad, there's little chance of me buying a GS4 GPE even if that is my backup choice.

Well you can't really ever complain about Google not putting out their best with that attitude.

For people who could just as easily swing to an HTC One/G2/GS4 to a N5 or vice versa, yes I think those people should wait for reviews. You mentioned to me you do like some of what TouchWiz brings and that bloat isn't as big of a deal for you, so yeah I would think that for you, there's not enough out there in a Nexus to compel you to get one.

You mention bloat but you also don't seem to care what the performance is like. Does not compute.

For me, and probably some other users here, it's pretty much Nexus or nothing. BTW, I feel just like an iFan saying things like this.

First step is realising that you have a problem.
 

ponyo

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I just received a shipping notification about 30 minutes ago which is way earlier than expected...and I ordered on 11/01 at 2:11 AM which was 12 hours later than everyone else.
Excellent launch performance by Google...Much better than the ruckus launch that happened last year.

That's pretty surprising. Maybe Google Playstore is no longer the world's worst retailer. Only the second worst.

Either the demand is way lower than anticipated or they were crazy conservative with the ship dates.

But I rather buy from Worstbuy than direct from Google. At least Worstbuy will offer free shipping.
 

jimv1983

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I just received a shipping notification about 30 minutes ago which is way earlier than expected...and I ordered on 11/01 at 2:11 AM which was 12 hours later than everyone else.
Excellent launch performance by Google...Much better than the ruckus launch that happened last year.

I ordered less than 20 minutes after going on sale and I'm still seeing a pending status and shipping by the 5th. What the hell is Google doing?
 

jimv1983

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I just received a shipping notification about 30 minutes ago which is way earlier than expected...and I ordered on 11/01 at 2:11 AM which was 12 hours later than everyone else.
Excellent launch performance by Google...Much better than the ruckus launch that happened last year.

I wouldn't call that an excellent launch performance. An excellent launch performance would have been actually shipping in the order that orders were placed not in what seems to be to be a totally random order. I ordered mine within 20 minutes of them going on sale. Mine really sure have shipped before yours. I still have a "Pending" status. Also, making enough so that they don't sell out in a matter of a few hours would have been nice too.
 
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I wouldn't call that an excellent launch performance. An excellent launch performance would have been actually shipping in the order that orders were placed not in what seems to be to be a totally random order. I ordered mine within 20 minutes of them going on sale. Mine really sure have shipped before yours. I still have a "Pending" status. Also, making enough so that they don't sell out in a matter of a few hours would have been nice too.
Where are you located again? That may be a factor, but IIRC you said California right?
 

saratoga172

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From the many Samsung, HTC, and LG owners complaining about stuttering and lack of smoothness, it sounds like bloat does impact performance.

Exactly this. Had a Verizon GS4 for a week and returned it. Some things were snappy but overall there was just way too much lag. This was apparently fixed in a later update but the phone should never have shipped in that state IMO. Ultimately one of the reasons why I went back to the iPhone and now have a 5S. Couple other reasons, but that had a factor and reinforced other experiences I had had with Android.
 

ilkhan

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I wouldn't call that an excellent launch performance. An excellent launch performance would have been actually shipping in the order that orders were placed not in what seems to be to be a totally random order. I ordered mine within 20 minutes of them going on sale. Mine really sure have shipped before yours. I still have a "Pending" status. Also, making enough so that they don't sell out in a matter of a few hours would have been nice too.
If they had delayed the announcement any longer to add inventory for the launch they would have been lynched.

As to the shipping order, there may be warehouse location or specific SKU reasons behind some people getting theirs first. There may not be. Im just speculating. (Also mine arrives tomorrow. ) This launch was still a hell of a lot better than the N4's launch.
 
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I wouldn't call that an excellent launch performance. An excellent launch performance would have been actually shipping in the order that orders were placed not in what seems to be to be a totally random order. I ordered mine within 20 minutes of them going on sale. Mine really sure have shipped before yours. I still have a "Pending" status. Also, making enough so that they don't sell out in a matter of a few hours would have been nice too.

You are aware of how "shipping" works right?

They don't ship out 1 box at a time. They ship out a 1000 boxes out at a time going to a certain geographic area.

It would be asinine to ship them out in the order in which they were placed.
 
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You are aware of how "shipping" works right?

They don't ship out 1 box at a time. They ship out a 1000 boxes out at a time going to a certain geographic area.


It would be asinine to ship them out in the order in which they were placed.
Do you work in logistics? Or are you just pulling this out of thin air?

Google is not the shipping company. UPS is. They manage how the products are shipped. I don't see why orders wouldn't be processed in the order they are received. They may be batched, but it's still in the order they're received.

With that said I'll disagree with jimv1983 that this is some sort of flawed launch. It may not be perfect, but it's pretty damn good.
 

code65536

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Do you work in logistics? Or are you just pulling this out of thin air?

Google is not the shipping company. UPS is. They manage how the products are shipped. I don't see why orders wouldn't be processed in the order they are received. They may be batched, but it's still in the order they're received.

With that said I'll disagree with jimv1983 that this is some sort of flawed launch. It may not be perfect, but it's pretty damn good.

For the N4, UPS Logistics handled everything except the actual order-taking (which probably didn't help with all the confusion); I'm assuming that this is true for the N5 as well. Google takes the order and hands that information to UPS, who then decides which UPS-operated warehouse to ship from, how the orders are grouped, etc. So while the orders may be delivered to the logistics company in order, the logistics company may not necessarily make use of that order.

Where is yours shipping from, BTW? I'm in the midwest, and my order is shipping from the UPS hub in Louisville Kentucky. AFAICT, last year's N4 launch all shipped from Louisville; is that still the case for N5, or are there multiple origin locations now?
 
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ilkhan

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For the N4, UPS Logistics handled everything except the actual order-taking (which probably didn't help with all the confusion); I'm assuming that this is true for the N5 as well. Google takes the order and hands that information to UPS, who then decides which UPS-operated warehouse to ship from, how the orders are grouped, etc. So while the orders may be delivered to the logistics company in order, the logistics company may not necessary make use of that order.

Where is yours shipping from, BTW? I'm in the midwest, and my order is shipping from the UPS hub in Louisville Kentucky. AFAICT, last year's N4 launch all shipped from Louisville; is that still the case for N5, or are there multiple origin locations now?
As far as I know most centralized major warehouses are in Louisville because that is the central UPS hub. You get secondary facilities or smaller facilities in other areas (Sparks, NV, is the closest one to me), but almost all UPS shipping in the US starts at or goes through Louisville (excepting packages that start and end in the same region).
 

RGUN

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For those complaining that their early order hasn't yet shipped. During the Nexus 4 launch my co-worker and I placed an order seconds apart on launch day. I received shipping notice and tracking information the next day, he didn't. Both our phones arrived on the same day, he received his tracking information after the phone had actually been delivered.
 

cbrunny

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For those complaining that their early order hasn't yet shipped. During the Nexus 4 launch my co-worker and I placed an order seconds apart on launch day. I received shipping notice and tracking information the next day, he didn't. Both our phones arrived on the same day, he received his tracking information after the phone had actually been delivered.

Sounds like days of frustration followed by a whole lot of jumping up and down!
 

cbrunny

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For the N4, UPS Logistics handled everything except the actual order-taking (which probably didn't help with all the confusion); I'm assuming that this is true for the N5 as well. Google takes the order and hands that information to UPS, who then decides which UPS-operated warehouse to ship from, how the orders are grouped, etc. So while the orders may be delivered to the logistics company in order, the logistics company may not necessarily make use of that order.

Where is yours shipping from, BTW? I'm in the midwest, and my order is shipping from the UPS hub in Louisville Kentucky. AFAICT, last year's N4 launch all shipped from Louisville; is that still the case for N5, or are there multiple origin locations now?

Shipping to Ontario comes from Kentucky as well.
 
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