yeah i didn't have prime until last december and it was on there at that time. but just fyi, the amazon prime streaming looks/sounds MUCH better on ps3 than xbox360. at least to me it does. i compared the same stream on both platforms, and the 360 one was crap compared to the ps3 one. also, the app in general, is much better on ps3 than 360.
Bugs are very typical. From cell phones, tablets and even my Sony Car stereo had an update that resolved some initial bugs of things not working as intended. Are you just wanting to bicker or are you really that daft?
so apparently the news about the controller charging while the console is turned off is bullshit. i had mine plugged in for over 24 hours and the controller died in 5 minutes. i guess it has to be in standby mode to charge.
And you have to spend a ton of money to be able to play at a steady frame rate at that high of a rez. I'm not done with PC gaming but it's just too expensive for me to keep up with it anymore.
How does this compare to the previous gen?
Brand new SNES carts. Even getting high off the fresh manuals was a ritual. Unfolding a map. The smell that filled the room the first hour when the fresh cart warmed up.
The smell of the systems = smell of Christmas.
PS4 won't be as good as a NES action set though with that 5 lb block of styrofoam.
New stuff has been packed in cardboard made with recycled paper, its nowhere near as intoxicating.
so apparently the news about the controller charging while the console is turned off is bullshit. i had mine plugged in for over 24 hours and the controller died in 5 minutes. i guess it has to be in standby mode to charge.
I turned it on, updated, and it worked. Psn was only down for me early morning Friday. Is has worked 100% with no issues and it is near silent.
For what its worth I am on psn right now and it is working. So it isn't down all weekend.
Same here, I have had no issues so far. On a side note, coming from the Xbox and 360 I thought I would not like the DS controller but I really like it.
I don't know what people are talking about saying the graphics aren't a nice shift forward. I could hardly play PS3/360 games anymore because of the blurry textures and low resolution. Playing a few PS4 games completely changes that. The images is much sharper and there is actually some AA going on! Add to that real time shadows and I'm super happy with the launch stuff. It immediately shows the potential of the system moving forward.
I'm wondering what people expected? CGI quality graphics in the launch games?
if anyone is having issues getting Bit-streaming to work for blurays this is how you do it. some people on the AVS thread were having issues
That's not going to bode well to the PC god elitists out there but they are resourceful enough to find other things to bash consoles about.
Someone asked about Disk installs earlier, i didn't see an option to flat out "install" the games however looking at the storage, each game is taking up north of 30 gigs so id assume its all there, and that is what gets auto installed the first time you put a game in the system. did it with BF4, Killzone and Knack
If not already posted, IGN speed comparison of stock, HSSD, SSD.
I know durvelle tried to upgrade the hd in his and it wasn't compatible. He was able to install the 1.5 update but then got only black bars on boot. When he put the stock hd in, it was fine. I think was something to do with how you initialize a new hd. I'm not sure what exactly has to be done to upgrade it yet.
so apparently the news about the controller charging while the console is turned off is bullshit. i had mine plugged in for over 24 hours and the controller died in 5 minutes. i guess it has to be in standby mode to charge.
Does anyone know if amazon will allow exchanges from their b2g1 sale?
What do people expect for 400 bucks? 400 bucks is close to what one upper mid range Nvidia card costs. Pretty impressive performance for the price paid.
only tested kill zone but the disk only spins for maybe a min during initial game load. this was from fully off. it might be different from standby
it actually stopped spinning before the game loaded in
Another reason not to own a good PC. The best graphics I've seen in recent years on the 360 because I just don't have a capable PC! So partly I didn't realize how terrible they were vs what a high-end PC rig is. I've seen Crysis on youtube on a PC and it is nice.I have to agree, once you have a great computer and can max out pretty much any game I no longer say wow when playing on a console. But definately I agree that killzone looks pretty damn good for a console. Reminds me of crysis.
Yep, this is fact.What do people expect for 400 bucks? 400 bucks is close to what one upper mid range Nvidia card costs. Pretty impressive performance for the price paid.
If only a video card let you play games $400 doesn't buy a PC anywhere close to the PS4's abilities, not to mention five years from now it will be old and not keeping up, whereas the PS4 by nature of being a console will.The PS4 couldn't hold a candle to the 290 -- except in quietness.
I don't know what people are talking about saying the graphics aren't a nice shift forward. I could hardly play PS3/360 games anymore because of the blurry textures and low resolution. Playing a few PS4 games completely changes that. The images is much sharper and there is actually some AA going on! Add to that real time shadows and I'm super happy with the launch stuff. It immediately shows the potential of the system moving forward.
I'm wondering what people expected? CGI quality graphics in the launch games?
Thanks for that. I wondered why the only options were Linear PCM, Direct (Dolby) and Direct (DTS). Also, I did see that there was the usual screen size option for 3D content, but I haven't tried to play a disc yet.
How about that single player runs at 30 FPS?
In regard to installs, the one thing that bugs me is... updates. They just don't feel seamless. For example, both Knack and Killzone had updates when I put the disc in. So, I hit the PS button to go back to the dashboard, and tried to find a way to say, "Hey! Update me!" I had found the downloads listed in the notifications area earlier, so I ended up going there. If I ever clicked on the update with the game running, it just opened the game again. I had to close the game and then run the update.
I don't like that. As a developer that has worked with UIs and the user experience, that's just messy. There should be something when you hover over the huge icon associated with the game that says "Update now?", and if you hit that, it warns you that the game will need to close. The same thing should occur if you do it from the notifications area.
Speaking of the huge icon, does anyone notice that the details that's supposed to come up with each game sometimes... doesn't? I've seen it pop up a few times, but usually I never see it. If I hit down, which is supposed to bring it up, nothing happens.
I saw the speed comparison, and honestly, it seems odd. My only reasoning for it is that the Blu-Ray discs are typically manufactured with redundant data -- in other words, they're optimized. Hard drives aren't really this super crazy slow device, but the issue is that their ability to seek to data that isn't in a row -- it's much slower than NAND for obvious reasons.
There are a lot of options in the PlayStation 4's safe mode. Since you mentioned that it didn't work, I have a feeling that one of those might be the reason why. I saw stuff about fixing databases and crap -- it's probably hanging up while looking for one of those.
As for hard drive upgrades, I'd probably wait for Samsung's (actually Seagate) new 1.5TB and 2TB 9.5mm drives.
Pretty sure "turned off" really means stand-by mode. Although, your PS4 is in a cabinet, isn't it? Why would you want your controllers to be tethered to it? My PS4 sits around 12 feet away from my couch, so that's why I tend to use charging stations. Although, I don't care about the 360 or X1, because they use removable AA batteries, which means I just use my La Crosse charger + Sanyo Eneloops.
I don't recall ever seeing an option on Amazon's return page for exchanges -- unless it's for the same item. Someone said that they returned a game for $40, which isn't enough to buy another. The only way it might work is if you talk a CSR into giving you a $20 off code after returning the game.
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There isn't a NVIDIA card that costs $400 MSRP (770 = $330, 780 = $500). Although, you may find a few vendor variants of 4GB GTX 770s priced around that, but that's neither here nor there. If you want to compare it to AMD hardware, $400 = R9 290. The PS4 couldn't hold a candle to the 290 -- except in quietness. :biggrin:
Honestly, PCs are always about variability and the "general purpose tax". If you want a better experience, you can always pay a bit more. The "general purpose tax" is just the hit you take for the machine not really being dedicated to anything in particular by design. Heck, I'm typing this on my gaming PC right now!
Yeah it has to be in standby. Eventually the next firmware should automatically make it go to standby so you don't have to shut it off completely. I always turn it off though. Not sure if standby is good to let it sit.
I wonder if an MP4 file copied to DVD would play.
Wat? I think you've deluded yourself with all the talk of SLI and blah blah. It is not expensive to game on a PC. Outdated concept. Just because you CAN spend tons of cash doesn't mean you NEED to. People buying these consoles are dropping as much as any upper midtier PC are because consoles are nickle and dimed for accessories. I just find people talking about the cost to be laughable.
What's even funnier is the "it's supposed to be no fuss turn on and play" and the concept of internet connectivity has pretty much thrown all of that out the window. SO please...everyone...quit trying to make yourself believe these are some great thing they are not. They are locked down PC's without all the extras that PC's have. Maybe in past gens there was a case, but there is no longer. Maybe in the future as new tech comes out, but as long as they try to make them PC's, well...
That being said...enjoy them. I will probably pick one up when some actual games come out
SO can we now expect all PC > console comments to cease starting now? Cause we are here talking about playing actual games. Actual games that I cannot play on my $2500 PC or that are just flat out superior to the PC. Yeah I said superior. NBA2k14 on PC is ported from the Xbox 360 and PS3. The PS4 and XB1 versions are using completely different rendering engines.
Honestly, (and I say this as a PC guy) the PC trolls are annoying too. I'm sure they'll pop in here and talk about how their 2000$ rigs are amazing for games. Well no joke. You spent a lot more money than you would on a PS4...but I digress. Consoles and PC's can co-exist, they both have their niche.
SO can we now expect all PC > console comments to cease starting now? Cause we are here talking about playing actual games. Actual games that I cannot play on my $2500 PC or that are just flat out superior to the PC. Yeah I said superior. NBA2k14 on PC is ported from the Xbox 360 and PS3. The PS4 and XB1 versions are using completely different rendering engines.
Ever notice the live streams are not very good output? I like how I can go view players playing nba, fifa, need for speed, so on. Almost kind of like a review. Should help in deciding if I want a game or not. We should all post our own reviews of games on there I think that will help. And it's easy since all you would do is start playing and hit share.