The Official PS4 Thread

[zerocool84]

Yeah if they can massage the controller's software a bit somehow, maybe driver or whatever, it can be much improved I'm sure.

Having to drive that damn bright ass light. Wish it would turn off if you didn't have the camera.

 

[gorcorps]

It's happening, and it's ugly as hell.

Look at VgChartz.com sales records.

Just in the US it's bad enough. The new Lego game sold something like 35k on PS4, 22k on WiiU, and 18k on XB1. Tomb Raider was even worse, about 3 to 1 in favor of PS4. The console sales are tilted towards PS4 as well.

And that's the BEST region for the XB1. In the UK the XB1 is getting punked, and in Europe it's getting DESTROYED. 5 to 1 all the way to 10 to 1 depending on country.

Microsoft needs to go into emergency mode to stand a chance. Momentum is going to crush them if they don't.

Microsoft already entered emergency mode... back pedaling and reversing things like their online requirement on top of canning their CEO are panicked desperate moves

 

[zerocool84]

Microsoft already entered emergency mode... back pedaling and reversing things like their online requirement on top of canning their CEO are panicked desperate moves

They planned on changing their CEO for a long time already, before any Xbox announcement.

 

[Arkaign]

That's true, though canning Mattrick probably counts to the same point (and no matter what the PR spin was, he was definitely thrown under the bus, hahaha).

I have no doubt that Microsoft didn't expect to be losing substantially even in the US market. The rest of the world is completely lost except for the UK, where they're getting pounded pretty bad.

For the US and UK, I think they can salvage things, but it will take more than pack-ins at $499. The people willing to pay $499 for a console are running thin now, and even $399 on the PS4 side won't fly forever.

 

[Arkaign]

 

[cmdrdredd]

Having to drive that damn bright ass light. Wish it would turn off if you didn't have the camera.

They use pretty dumb features in games room low health or spotted and it turns red. How many people are looking at the controller, especially the front?

 

[exdeath]

They use pretty dumb features in games room low health or spotted and it turns red. How many people are looking at the controller, especially the front?

But but but but Xbox doesn't have it!!!!1!

 

[sze5003]

They use pretty dumb features in games room low health or spotted and it turns red. How many people are looking at the controller, especially the front?

I find it kind of annoying that the controller lights up and turns off in thief if you are in light or the shadows. So there should be a way to turn off that light.

 

[mmntech]

Lol. Microsoft has had a rough couple of years. Mostly because they haven't a clue what their customers actually want or need.

They release a touch-centric OS for the desktop despite the fact that very few businesses and consumers had touch screens, and hardware suppliers had no intention of implementing them. New interface was unintuitive with K&M, yet they forced you to use Metro up until recently. They're mystified why their core customers (businesses especially) are still buying Windows 7 or are switching to competing platforms.

They released a tablet right when the new iPad and Nexus 10 came out. It cost the same or more than its two competitors but lacked the high DPI display and had a much slower processor. Compound that with the fact that few apps were ready to go at launch.

Then the rumours started swirling online that the Xbox 720 would have always-online DRM and ban used games. Which naturally kicked up the hornet's nest that is the internet. Gamers were none too happy about it, and it attracted a lot of negative press before the console was even unveiled. They refused to address this issue, and then showed off a console that had always-on DRM and banned used games. Which allowed Sony to brand the Xbox One as anti-consumer and anti-gamer. Rule number 1 of marketing, never, ever allow the competition to define your brand before you do.

That's why the Xbone is still lagging today instead of being top of the generation again. It has little to do with hardware shortcomings or games. Sony's marketing campaign was simple but brilliant. They gave customers exactly what they asked for, and made Xbox look like a joke at the same time.

So it's not surprising they urged Steve Ballmer to step down. I'm sure he's a smart guy and a shrewd business man. He just doesn't know jack about the software and hardware industries. That's why they brought Bill Gates back on as an technology adviser. This is one thing a lot of companies still fail to understand. You can't have someone running a corporation like this who only has a business degree and no industry experience. It's like taking a carpenter and asking them to weld a battleship. Apple learned that the hard way back in the 90s. MS isn't nearly at that point, but they need to start making some smart moves before it does get that bad.

 

[exdeath]

I'd honestly be happy with Nintendo and Sony. Really resenting and regretting what Microsoft has brought to the console landscape. Kinda ruined much of the appeal and unique experience that consoles once had over PC.

Of course I understand a lot of it was heading this way anyway and EA and Activision are also responsible for the blatant unshameful abusive monetizing of the video game industry, its just Microsoft usually gets the credit for accelerating the console to PC transfer with the first Xbox.

I'd really just prefer having consoles and PCs instead of unifying them like XBox did. Now instead of Mario on console and Quake on PC, we have consoles over saturated with generic green and brown PC style online shooters and PCs being crippled by console cross platform development specs. Its like the best of neither world now.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Having to drive that damn bright ass light. Wish it would turn off if you didn't have the camera.

"It's not the led's draining the battery because led's use barely any power" .....

"With LED on .08A (stable)
With LED off . 03A to .04A (variable)

The DS4 has a 1000mAh Li-ion battery therefore the idle battery life would be calculated as:

LED enabled: (1000/80) = 12.5 hours
LED disabled: (1000/35) to (1000/30) = 28.6 hours"

It's such a stubborn stance to take and makes no sense, which is why I hate consumer electronics manufactures in general.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Then the rumours started swirling online that the Xbox 720 would have always-online DRM and ban used games. Which naturally kicked up the hornet's nest that is the internet. Gamers were none too happy about it, and it attracted a lot of negative press before the console was even unveiled. They refused to address this issue, and then showed off a console that had always-on DRM and banned used games. Which allowed Sony to brand the Xbox One as anti-consumer and anti-gamer. Rule number 1 of marketing, never, ever allow the competition to define your brand before you do.

Seems more likely it was EA/Titanfall behind that initiative, and not Microsoft's idea. I'm sure this is something they were supposed to try as apart of the exclusivity deal.

 

[BladeVenom]

It's happening, and it's ugly as hell.

Look at VgChartz.com sales records.

Just in the US it's bad enough. The new Lego game sold something like 35k on PS4, 22k on WiiU, and 18k on XB1. Tomb Raider was even worse, about 3 to 1 in favor of PS4. The console sales are tilted towards PS4 as well.

And that's the BEST region for the XB1. In the UK the XB1 is getting punked, and in Europe it's getting DESTROYED. 5 to 1 all the way to 10 to 1 depending on country.

Microsoft needs to go into emergency mode to stand a chance. Momentum is going to crush them if they don't.

Xbone weekly sales keep dropping; they are almost at the WiiU levels now. This is looking more and more to be like the 6th generation where the PS2 completely dominated.

 

[Imported]

.. I just found out the FFXIV beta has been open. Damn me for not checking earlier. Just got the e-mail from Square.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/f600d3da39875bbc27d16c82909e36e3465d689e

 

[HeXen]

I find it kind of annoying that the controller lights up and turns off in thief if you are in light or the shadows. So there should be a way to turn off that light.

Cover it with tape. Problem solved.

 

[HeXen]

I'd honestly be happy with Nintendo and Sony. Really resenting and regretting what Microsoft has brought to the console landscape. Kinda ruined much of the appeal and unique experience that consoles once had over PC.

Of course I understand a lot of it was heading this way anyway and EA and Activision are also responsible for the blatant unshameful abusive monetizing of the video game industry, its just Microsoft usually gets the credit for accelerating the console to PC transfer with the first Xbox.

I'd really just prefer having consoles and PCs instead of unifying them like XBox did. Now instead of Mario on console and Quake on PC, we have consoles over saturated with generic green and brown PC style online shooters and PCs being crippled by console cross platform development specs. Its like the best of neither world now.

Besides the fact that Doom/Quake had console ports and mario type games ported for PC (Sonic..etc) I recall lots of games in the 80's/90's that were doing this as the uniqueness between consoles and PC's were not much different than now (remember the 68000 CPU was used in computers too as were most console CPU's). Plenty of PC style titles were going to console like Deja Vu, Maniac Mansion and vice versa to PC along with tons of multi platform created titles for many platforms. Nothing has really changed other than the evolution of game genre's and the weeding out of competing hardware and software manufactures of gaming platforms.
Don't blame EA or Activision, blame the faults on all the variables as to why so many publishers and developers went bankrupt. EA, UBi..etc actually saved themselves from the fate of those like G.O.D games. So many just flat out got taken over by others and those that didn't went bankrupt. In the business world you either expand, consume or sell, you never just sit there, that's a good and quick way to lose everything within one bad year or creation of new competitor.

I've been hard on my two DS4s and they've held up. Lucky me eh?

I've been through two DS3 and 4 Xbox 360 controllers just simply due to wear and tear though in the past.

lol, wow. I still have original Sega genesis controllers right along with all the others including PS3 and the 360 pad for my PC. What do you do? ram your thumb up on the analogue's like it was bunghole fest 98 or what? lol

 

[blurredvision]

Xbox One thread is talking about games and the PS4 thread is STILL talking about sales. Geez...

 

[Aikouka]

Xbox One thread is talking about games and the PS4 thread is STILL talking about sales. Geez...

Not that this is beneficial at all?

...and you mean they're arguing over whether graphics are important in games?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Besides the fact that Doom/Quake had console ports and mario type games ported for PC (Sonic..etc) I recall lots of games in the 80's/90's that were doing this as the uniqueness between consoles and PC's were not much different than now (remember the 68000 CPU was used in computers too as were most console CPU's). Plenty of PC style titles were going to console like Deja Vu, Maniac Mansion and vice versa to PC along with tons of multi platform created titles for many platforms. Nothing has really changed other than the evolution of game genre's and the weeding out of competing hardware and software manufactures of gaming platforms.
Don't blame EA or Activision, blame the faults on all the variables as to why so many publishers and developers went bankrupt. EA, UBi..etc actually saved themselves from the fate of those like G.O.D games. So many just flat out got taken over by others and those that didn't went bankrupt. In the business world you either expand, consume or sell, you never just sit there, that's a good and quick way to lose everything within one bad year or creation of new competitor.


lol, wow. I still have original Sega genesis controllers right along with all the others including PS3 and the 360 pad for my PC. What do you do? ram your thumb up on the analogue's like it was bunghole fest 98 or what? lol

No I use them...daily...for years and years..after a while the buttons will stick and they wont respond correctly No abusy..they just dont work correctly. You act as if it is my fault..it is NOT!!

 

[BladeVenom]

Xbox One thread is talking about games and the PS4 thread is STILL talking about sales. Geez...

You can't blame Xbox fans from wanting to avoid talking about how poorly it's selling, and how the PS4 is going to completely dominate sales this generation.

Now with Elop in charge of the Xbox, MS might just sell or shut down the Xbox division.

Games are the only good news they have.

 

[sze5003]

Once the ps4 rolls out with some naughty dog titles, watch dogs, some other exclusives then it will be more clear on how to pick a system. Of course xb1 should have it's own exclusive games by then too. I feel like watch dogs should have been released by now. But I have no expectations of games and that way I dont get dissapointed.

I never played killzone, bought it with the ps4, beat it and realized it's not my type of game so I sold it as soon as I could.

 

[gorcorps]

The gamestops near me all have them in stock. I was very close to pulling the trigger but just couldn't justify it ATM.

 

[Cuda1447]

Whats going to happen is PS4 is going to get a strong lead. Then all the new adopters are going to see that their friends have PS4 and that is what they will choose. After all, who wants to play Call of Duty alone? Then the sales will steamroll. PS4 has won this generation already, IMO.

 

[sze5003]

The gamestops near me all have them in stock. I was very close to pulling the trigger but just couldn't justify it ATM.

I thought you were gonna get second son..or it may have been someone else.

 

[exdeath]

Whoa. Knack just shot up to #1 with 330k units for the week and is an ear shot from breaking 1 million.

Its a fun an interesting new game that is refreshing from all the safe cookie cutter stuff but its nothing amazing or even next gen. Didn't see this coming at all.

Fully support it though, the industry needs to know its safe to experiment with new IP and get out of the safe zone rut.