Uncharted did it with the grenades, and Killzone made you turn the controller when you had to turn valves and set charges.
Uncharted did it with the grenades, and Killzone made you turn the controller when you had to turn valves and set charges.
Right. I do hope though that there isn't portions of a game that force you to use it at one point or another. Like opening an airlock, you have to drop the controller and turn the wheel virtually. Didn't uncharted do this with the six axis controller at some spots?
That's the thing, nobody is FORCING you to do that. Don't play games that require it. Simple solution. No reason to get all testy because of a peripheral you don't have to use.
In the case of the Kinect, they're FORCING you to buy it whether you want it or not if you get the XB1. So if you're not interested in the Kinect or even interested in seeing the possibilities of the Kinect, the user is shafted by having to pay for it.
I don't think people would care that much if it was like $15-$20, but a lot of people see it as the reason for $100 difference.
In the case of the Kinect, they're FORCING you to buy it whether you want it or not if you get the XB1. So if you're not interested in the Kinect or even interested in seeing the possibilities of the Kinect, the user is shafted by having to pay for it.
I don't think people would care that much if it was like $15-$20, but a lot of people see it as the reason for $100 difference.
or the user can, you know, not buy the xbox1.
Now that they did away with drm stuff, the only reason I won't get the Xbox 1 is due to the price difference. For 100 and some change I can get 2 games. I am one of those just not interested in kinnect.
If they made it optional and price was the same I would have to choose between game exclusives and that would be tough but I've liked the games on the playstation side a little more.
Or you can, you know, try and understand what you're replying to. Seems to be a common theme with you. Try reading it again.
oh i read what you typed. and if it bothers people that much they simply won't buy it. nothing is being forced on anyone.
maybe people only want to navigate with kinect and don't want to use the controller for anything - should they cry about having to spend $60 for something they won't use? or an extra $5 for an hdmi cable they won't use?
If you read what I typed, then your response intentionally did not make sense - or you are incapable of understanding what I wrote (unlikely). The Kinect is being forced on anyone buying the XB1 in case you didn't gather that yet from the post you originally quoted from me. I've already excluded those choosing not to buy XB1 due to the Kinect being bundled with that statement. There are still people who want the XB1 even though they are knowingly paying extra for the Kinect.
As for your follow up question, that's actually a good question. If MS had advertised you could control all of XB1 with just a Kinect, that is a distinct possibility. It wouldn't hurt to give the user choice.
In this case though we're a bit above even that $60 ... Like I said before, no real impact to me financially, but you have to consider those where there IS an impact. I personally will likely still buy an XB1 given all of its shortfalls simply because of the overwhelmingly positive experience in the past with MS consoles. But I still consider those who do not have my mindset.
they are also forcing you to get a 500gb hard drive (as is ps4), what if you don't care for one that large? the 20gb 360 drive was more than enough for me. i upgraded my ps3 to a 500gb drive and it was a waste. so that is just more money they are "forcing" you to spend!
fact of the matter is, consoles are a package deal where the one at your house will be identical to the one at anyone elses house. you can't just pick apart certain parts of the packages that you specifically don't care about, and say it's extra money you are paying for. it's "all inclusive" in that it is all or nothing. i personally would prefer that method over a fragmented one. i mean because of that, the 360 devs couldn't make games knowing there would be any storage device present, which was a huge downfall early on. the "arcade" version was a terrible idea, and ms apparently agreed which is why they got rid of it eventually.
as i've made it plenty clear in the past, the kinect does not interest me at all and i plan on having it sitting in my closet 99% of the time. but at least i know IF something cool comes along that i want to try out that i will be able to since it's part of the console. the main reason it doesn't interest me is because they haven't shown anything ground breaking with it, rather just ticky tacky stuff.
i'm also nearly 100% certain that when i do eventually get a ps4, that i am 99.99% certain i will never buy the ps eye.
I don't think anyone is complaining about the 500 gb hard drive. When the Xbox was sold without a hard drive that bothered people too I'm sure. I think it had 4 gb of internal storage?? Why..my cell phone had more than that at the time. But again it was available without connect I think.
the 4gb came way later down the road. they tried to sell you memory cards with the early 360's.
and me personally, i'd MUCH rather pay $450 for an xbox1 with like a 120gb hdd. or $400 and i can just plug in my own usb hdd since i have a spare 650gb drive sitting around.
In the case of the Kinect, they're FORCING you to buy it whether you want it or not if you get the XB1. So if you're not interested in the Kinect or even interested in seeing the possibilities of the Kinect, the user is shafted by having to pay for it.
I don't think people would care that much if it was like $15-$20, but a lot of people see it as the reason for $100 difference.
I still have not seen a real demo for the kinect where this functionality is demonstrated and proven to be working. The other problem is in the home with the cat, dog, kids etc moving in view. Could cause issues sure.
In that same vein, Sony is FORCING you to buy the hard drive whether you want it or not. They are FORCING you to buy rumble in your controller whether you want it or not. They are FORCING you to buy the blu-ray optical drive whether you want all-digital or not.
The Kinect is part of the X1 package, like it or not. Tired of seeing this as some sort of argument.
Already addressed. And ironically you have the same argument as a few posts above you. Good call
And as I've said before, if MS stated every game would require Kinect they would likely lose even more sales. They'd lose my money, that's for sure. A controller is assumed needed for every game, as is the hard drive. And yes they're forcing you to purchase bluray optical.
But, try reading the original rethort to your same rehashed statement.
Controller rumble, part of this gens and last gens tech, hard drive is needed, blu ray are more common now. People just have a hard time grasping the kinnect as something necessary for the console.
It's viewed as an accessory same as another controller. In fact since these consoles are pretty much like pc they should just let you go to the website and customize it to your liking. Charge you for what you ordered...oh wait there's Newegg for that haha.
Your original argument is the MS is forcing the kinect on you. They are not. They have even stated you can completely turn off every feature with it. It is even being said it is not required to be plugged in. They are just packaging it with the Xbox for people that want to use it.
And nobody is even forcing you to BUY the Xbox One. Or the PS4. Or anything!