because addon's are historically failures and don't succeed.
and i'm not saying that packins automatically succeed.
plus, financially, it probably makes sense for ms. no way kinect cost them $100 to make, so their recouping some costs on it.
The point is why not sell the system without it if it's not required. Like a bundle, those who want it will buy it, those who want just the system will get just that. Even if it's 50-60 bucks less I don't think it would hurt their sales and it gives everyone a choice.
because addon's are historically failures and don't succeed.
and i'm not saying that packins automatically succeed.
plus, financially, it probably makes sense for ms. no way kinect cost them $100 to make, so their recouping some costs on it.
The Kinect was a $100 addon to the price of the 360s that came with and or $150 separate. They sold a ton of them. I'd imagine more so with the console than stand alone, hence the reason they are bundling it and shipping it as part of the console.
They are making it not just and add on, but a part of the Xbox One.
They released 127 Kinect titles and 2 more are going to be released as of now. I don't know how well they sold (but I think the Dance Central sold fairly well). Kinect Sports sold 1 million units and had at least one sequel that I know of. I'd imagine software developing going down, and focus on the new Kinect 2 and Xbox One going into place.
because addon's are historically failures and don't succeed.
and i'm not saying that packins automatically succeed.
plus, financially, it probably makes sense for ms. no way kinect cost them $100 to make, so their recouping some costs on it.
Well, I posted a few numbers I found in a thread somewhere and since release Kinect Sports and Kinect Adventures have seen almost 98% sales drops. I guess everyone interested already bought them?
Already addressed. And ironically you have the same argument as a few posts above you. Good call
And as I've said before, if MS stated every game would require Kinect they would likely lose even more sales. They'd lose my money, that's for sure. A controller is assumed needed for every game, as is the hard drive. And yes they're forcing you to purchase bluray optical.
But, try reading the original rethort to your same rehashed statement.
Huh? I went back a couple of 100-post pages and don't see where I've made the same argument.
Regardless of how you yourself keep rehashing how the Kinect is "forced", everything about any product you buy is forced. You buy what you buy, that's it. Microsoft isn't forcing anything on you, they offer a product and you decide to purchase or not. Everything in the X1 or PS4 box carries a cost, it's up to Sony or Microsoft to decide what to put in. The Kinect is an extension of the console just like the hand-held controller.
If Microsoft were to include only a Kinect and not a controller, you'd again say they were forcing the Kinect on you. But when Sony includes only a controller but not the camera, they aren't forcing the controller on you?
Huh? I went back a couple of 100-post pages and don't see where I've made the same argument.
Regardless of how you yourself keep rehashing how the Kinect is "forced", everything about any product you buy is forced. You buy what you buy, that's it. Microsoft isn't forcing anything on you, they offer a product and you decide to purchase or not. Everything in the X1 or PS4 box carries a cost, it's up to Sony or Microsoft to decide what to put in. The Kinect is an extension of the console just like the hand-held controller.
If Microsoft were to include only a Kinect and not a controller, you'd again say they were forcing the Kinect on you. But when Sony includes only a controller but not the camera, they aren't forcing the controller on you?
What's with all the MS fanboys in this thread. I mean really, you have your own thread.
Yep, because the Sony fans have stayed out of the X1 thread. Might as well combine the two, they are essentially the same discussion.
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I bought a arcade game called Toy Car that was all about the 6axis, to play with my son years back. We had a really good time with it.Uncharted 1 used the sixaxis to cross logs, which I can only remember happening a couple of times. And for tossing grenades. It was rare that a game forced you to use the sixaxis for extended periods of time. Only Lair made you use it all the time, and they eventually patched it out.
Good read. Following your blog now. I agree on wanting to see you follow up about the 3 OS concurrently running, and the effect on RAM. I also missed that PS+ will be required for MP now, so thanks for that tidbit. I look forward to reading how all the guys railing about consoles that require subscription fees, and how they would never pay, are reacting to that news.I wrote a piece on PS4 and Xbox One. I tried to stick to the facts, along with as fair an interpretation as I could. Some have said I was too easy on Microsoft, some think I'm too easy on Sony. Whatever, this is a start. Focused mainly on the systems and launch data.
http://losthammer.wordpress.com/201...13-and-beyond-predictions-and-what-to-expect/
Let me know what you think! I'm also looking for other articles and info to add as time goes on.
I bought a arcade game called Toy Car that was all about the 6axis, to play with my son years back. We had a really good time with it.
Just looked that up; don't know how I missed that title. I see the flash version is free, I will check it out. If I see a benefit to playing on PS3 I'll get it there too, thanks.flow is a 100% sixaxis controlled game. it's neat but i would rather play it with the analog stick, but it would be a lot easier if you could control it that way too.
Good read. Following your blog now. I agree on wanting to see you follow up about the 3 OS concurrently running, and the effect on RAM. I also missed that PS+ will be required for MP now, so thanks for that tidbit. I look forward to reading how all the guys railing about consoles that require subscription fees, and how they would never pay, are reacting to that news.
And I think you did a good job of addressing the platforms, without inserting unnecessary bias.
Good read. Following your blog now. I agree on wanting to see you follow up about the 3 OS concurrently running, and the effect on RAM. I also missed that PS+ will be required for MP now, so thanks for that tidbit. I look forward to reading how all the guys railing about consoles that require subscription fees, and how they would never pay, are reacting to that news.
And I think you did a good job of addressing the platforms, without inserting unnecessary bias.