The Official Sony E3 2013 thread

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cmdrdredd

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It's at 6pm PST. I'm outta here at 9pm EST so I may end up missing a big chunk of it driving home. Stoked to see some more of the games they demoed, and still a little worried they might pull an Xbone.

Doubt it will be anywhere near as bad.
 

smackababy

Lifer
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I hope they pull another "RIDGE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAACER!" and battles based on historical events: like fighting a giant crab monster.
 

Arkaign

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Just noticed this on Gamestop, has that always been there ?

Please please turn this whole used game DRM thing on its head Sony, please.

If they do that, and especially if they combo that with a $399 or $449 launch, then Microsoft is done, and good riddance.

This isn't 2005/2006 anymore, people are paying attention. There aren't enough morons in the world to make Xbone a success if the competition is this much better (no DRM, much more powerful unit, consumer friendly, no paywalling online/netflix/etc). Xbone will become a bad joke, and the mark of an uneducated consumer in the kindest words possible.
 

tential

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I am going to have to change my gym times to watch this. Why so late Sony? =(

Seriously, I was supposed to go gym shopping today (Find a new gym) and then I saw E3 and I was like well... I might as well see this. Going to probably miss Ubisoft's thing though and go now.
 

Necc

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If they do that, and especially if they combo that with a $399 or $449 launch, then Microsoft is done, and good riddance.

This isn't 2005/2006 anymore, people are paying attention. There aren't enough morons in the world to make Xbone a success if the competition is this much better (no DRM, much more powerful unit, consumer friendly, no paywalling online/netflix/etc). Xbone will become a bad joke, and the mark of an uneducated consumer in the kindest words possible.

God, Iwish you're right. let's not forget that $399 != €399, we who live in europe who support sony deserve better
 

smackababy

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Sony's is 3 hours... I have a feeling there is going to be a lot more hype than actual substance because of that. MS seemed to move as quickly as possible. Sony does like to take their time though. I am hoping I can get home, change, get to the gym, get back home and shower before Sony starts. =(
 

exdeath

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Sony needs to not have ANY shitty dance/party/angry birds/punch the monkey/fruit ninja/Kinect/Move gimmicky casual bullshit and just come straight out with no DRM or walling and then show trailers for stuff like Kingdom Hearts, Jak, Crash, and Capcom, Konami, Square exclusives etc

Otherwise Ill be enjoying a Wii U and all of 5 games next gen.

Japanese need to get their shit together and restore console gaming to its former glory, because FUCK where Microsoft, EA, and Activision are taking it.
 
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American Gunner

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Sony's is 3 hours... I have a feeling there is going to be a lot more hype than actual substance because of that. MS seemed to move as quickly as possible. Sony does like to take their time though. I am hoping I can get home, change, get to the gym, get back home and shower before Sony starts. =(
I felt the same way about MS's. They did all this hype about Black Tusk studio and then showed us nothing. At the end of it, I just wasn't super impressed.
 

smackababy

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I felt the same way about MS's. They did all this hype about Black Tusk studio and then showed us nothing. At the end of it, I just wasn't super impressed.

I think it is entirely possible Black Tusk studio didn't have anything to really show. They are just on board for the Xbox One.
 

American Gunner

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Ok, so what about the other exclusives. They said they have 15, but didn't show them all and they say they are coming out this year. I am betting a lot of them are Kinect titles that they didn't want to show off at E3.
 

smackababy

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Possibly true. I feel they had a time slot and filled it with the most "hype generating" titles they could: Titanfall, Halo, etc. We will get more information as E3 goes on. There is going to be some Kinect titles for sure, and why shouldn't there be? People seem to actually like the Kinect for some god awful reason.
 

tential

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Possibly true. I feel they had a time slot and filled it with the most "hype generating" titles they could: Titanfall, Halo, etc. We will get more information as E3 goes on. There is going to be some Kinect titles for sure, and why shouldn't there be? People seem to actually like the Kinect for some god awful reason.

There is a market that doesn't just include hardcore gamers haha. I'm not a huge fan of Kinect games but I do think there is a place for it in next gen.

Examples:
-Madden 14
You can call plays quickly, Audible Plays, etc. etc. It could be amazing. If you want the full QB experience you can even get up and throw the ball (dunno if I'd do that part or if it'd work well).
-NBA Live 14
Call for a pick or other basketball type things (yes I know sad I should know more)
-FPS shooters
You don't need a headset now if you don't want to use one
-FPS single player
Tell your troops to take cover, follow, hold a choke point, etc.

There are a LOT of Kinect uses even for even for the core gamer crew. It just depends on developers implement it. I think though that Xbox's requirement of shipping with the kinect and having it on, will at FIRST be not accepted too well, but as people realize that the Kinect makes a lot of things that were tucked away in 3+ submenus, or that on PC, were tucked onto one of the 12 F keys, they'll be happy.

Side note: Watching IGN's coverage of E3,, it just goes to show that the average hardcore gamer doesn't understand the hardware that much. Even these guys hosting just care about games, which is what 95% of people know about.
Cute that they think though that Sony will come out at $399, as if Sony will take that kind of loss when their console costs more to product than Microsoft.
 

homebrew2ny

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There is a market that doesn't just include hardcore gamers haha. I'm not a huge fan of Kinect games but I do think there is a place for it in next gen.

Examples:
-Madden 14
You can call plays quickly, Audible Plays, etc. etc. It could be amazing. If you want the full QB experience you can even get up and throw the ball (dunno if I'd do that part or if it'd work well).
-NBA Live 14
Call for a pick or other basketball type things (yes I know sad I should know more)
-FPS shooters
You don't need a headset now if you don't want to use one
-FPS single player
Tell your troops to take cover, follow, hold a choke point, etc.

There are a LOT of Kinect uses even for even for the core gamer crew. It just depends on developers implement it. I think though that Xbox's requirement of shipping with the kinect and having it on, will at FIRST be not accepted too well, but as people realize that the Kinect makes a lot of things that were tucked away in 3+ submenus, or that on PC, were tucked onto one of the 12 F keys, they'll be happy.

Side note: Watching IGN's coverage of E3,, it just goes to show that the average hardcore gamer doesn't understand the hardware that much. Even these guys hosting just care about games, which is what 95% of people know about.
Cute that they think though that Sony will come out at $399, as if Sony will take that kind of loss when their console costs more to product than Microsoft.

I do not think anyone feels that Kinect could not be a useful feature, but if there were ever a time to spotlight it with original and engaging material, now was the time. To use it as a major selling point and have virtually nothing to offer up as 'candy' for it seems a bit underwhelming.
 

tential

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I do not think anyone feels that Kinect could not be a useful feature, but if there were ever a time to spotlight it with original and engaging material, now was the time. To use it as a major selling point and have virtually nothing to offer up as 'candy' for it seems a bit underwhelming.

I feel a lot of people have had HUGE things against the Kinect since the second it was launched. If there was ever a time, it wasn't today. Each developer had a 1 hour time slot. The time to highlight the Kinect is throughout E3 when reviewers get to actually use it one on one. On the stage, when each game gets like 5 minutes you can't really highlight Kinect.

There are 5 months left to do it. I do believe that if they DONT say anything over these next 5 months about how the Kinect factors into these games, then it will be a huge detraction to Xbox One. No one wants to pay for something they won't be using.

I just think that people over react here a lot and it's just boring to read people freak out months before calling decisive winners. People were complaining about no games being talked about at the Xbox One reveal when it was CLEARLY stated there wouldn't be any talk of games and it would be talked about 2 weeks from then in E3.

It's just the ADD though of our nation I guess. PR people handle it very well though.
 

mmntech

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Ok, so what about the other exclusives. They said they have 15, but didn't show them all and they say they are coming out this year. I am betting a lot of them are Kinect titles that they didn't want to show off at E3.

Most likely. Motion systems seem to be a magnet for shovelware.

Last generation, Xbox was THE multi-platform system of choice. It was easier to develop for and tended to get more investment in time and money than the PS3 got. Mainly because the Cell was hard to code for, and the hard cap of 256mb of system RAM was limiting. As such, Microsoft didn't need many exclusives to sustain their library. Sony on the other hand had to rely heavily on first party games. Most of which were top notch franchises. I like to think of Sony as the adult Nintendo.

This time around, I think Microsoft is hedging their bets on the same thing. That third parties will favour the Xbox One. Publisher's like the DRM but developers will prefer the PS4's greater system headroom. With all being equal, it will all boil down to who can market the best. Something Microsoft is not very good at.
 

smackababy

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The guys at IGN doing the preshow are pretty much morons. I guess I will be watching the GameSpot stream.
 

tential

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Most likely. Motion systems seem to be a magnet for shovelware.

Last generation, Xbox was THE multi-platform system of choice. It was easier to develop for and tended to get more investment in time and money than the PS3 got. Mainly because the Cell was hard to code for, and the hard cap of 256mb of system RAM was limiting. As such, Microsoft didn't need many exclusives to sustain their library. Sony on the other hand had to rely heavily on first party games. Most of which were top notch franchises. I like to think of Sony as the adult Nintendo.

This time around, I think Microsoft is hedging their bets on the same thing. That third parties will favour the Xbox One. Publisher's like the DRM but developers will prefer the PS4's greater system headroom. With all being equal, it will all boil down to who can market the best. Something Microsoft is not very good at.

I don't think that MS is bad at marketing at all. Who is learning about this shiit? Nerds. No offense, but of all the people that know of the new console who are gamers, it's 10% at best. The fight doesn't start for another 3-4 months.

And when that fight starts, PS4 is going to have to get TECHNICAL to win their fight and win over the 90% of people who don't know about hardware like people on forums do.

I don't know who is going to win. I do know that marketing for the Sony will be HARDER than MS when it comes down to the general public.

The problem is, saying "we have 50% more stream processors!" isn't going to fly. Saying "We have better graphics" isn't going to fly either because guess what? Both consoles have for the most part THE SAME GAMES. Maybe you can show this off with exclusives, but don't just pick off graphics and the graphics difference won't be able to seen in a trailer on TV when both are pre-rendered.

I'm excited about both, I'm buying both most likely since I didn't buy a PS3. I just think that people here are putting SO much emphasis on the hardware, and sadly, the hardware doesn't sell it, marketing does. Just look at DreamCast....
 

smackababy

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Sony really needs to either be cheaper or bundle the Vita and be $600. I don't see them doing either really. Their eyeToy will be a cheap Kinect (rumored to come with the console) and they will need a smaller HDD to compete price wise.
 

KaOTiK

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If Sony does not do anything different about used games, it would be awesome if Kevin Butler came out as VP of Used Games and did a little commerical bit lol
 
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