The Official Vice-Presidential Debate Thread

[buckshot24]

Want some cheese with that whine?

I am not whining I am wondering if Romney came off as disrespectful as Biden did tonight. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see it that way at all. Biden was a dick whether I feel upset about it or not.

 

[EXman]

Don't blow that 20,000th post on some bs bro.

yea sarcasm is the tool of the weak mind. sorry I cannot smile or laugh like Biden thru this forum...

 

[ivwshane]

I am not whining I am wondering if Romney came off as disrespectful as Biden did tonight. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see it that way at all. Biden was a dick whether I feel upset about it or not.

No Romney did not come off of as disrespectful, he came off as a liar. I bet I can guess which one you are ok with.

 

[HomerJS]

You do realize, Obama has had the power the last four years. If you have a problem, you have it with him.

-John

Last I checked my civics class there are 3 branches of govt.

 

[EXman]

Thanks for being an example of my statement

Thanks for ignoring the facts. You prove mine but who gives a shit. I don't expect much from you after your MSNBCish wanabe zinger.

 

[EXman]

No Romney did not come off of as disrespectful, he came off as a liar. I bet I can guess which one you are ok with.

What did he lie about?

 

[Zorkorist]

So you are OK without Gays, and abortion?

-John

 

[MomentsofSanity]

So you are OK without Gays, and abortion?

-John

Gays, absolutely. What the fuck does it have to do with you?

Abortion? Sure, under certain criteria. Limited to first trimester being one big one for me.

 

[ivwshane]

What did he lie about?

What did Romney lie about? He said he wasn't going to lower taxes. He said his plan covered pre existing conditions. He lied about the role of the 15 member panel for the ACA (aka death panels). He lied about Obama doubling the deficit. He lied about the affects of Obamacare saying 20 million people would lose their coverage.

Yeah, so he only lied on a couple of things./s

 

[cKGunslinger]

I can see your point and I think that is a pretty likely. But I do not think anyone thinks Bidens forte is being cordial and subdued. So it might not be green lighted as much as Biden got lucky they needed him to be himself. A dick. He's just not likable as a person.

People keep comparing Romney and Biden. I thought Romney was Good and Obama was just bad. Romney drove that debate because the president refused to do so. Biden Hijacked the dialog by interruping and getting loud.
The Moderator was undisiplined and in over her head. Biden Just got louded and Louder... In my experience when people get loud but don't say much they depend on their volume and not their content.

I can agree with most of this (Obama definitely lost his debate more than Romney won it.) Though I don't think Biden was getting loud due to not having anything to say - quite the contrary. I think he was on-point more so than Ryan on most facts. I think Biden was just getting excited about how much worse his opponent was doing as time dragged on; not unlike a winning team starting to play sloppy in the final minutes as they are scoring point after point.

I'd even make the case that being interrupted may have helped Ryan, as he appeared to have prepared 30-minutes of scripted material for a 90-minute debate. Biden could probably talk for days on end (about nothing important in particular) without saying the same thing twice.

 

[K1052]

It looks like the fact checkers are tallying up a lot more bullshit from the Ryan comments once again.

People keep saying he is a numbers guy but when the moderator asked him point blank about the tax plan and deductions that will be killed to make it work he just mumbles something about Congress. The continued use of the 716B number is particularly galling since he knows better, it been debunked by everyone, and he himsef has counted on the same savings in the past.

 

[emperus]

I found Ryan's mannerisms gave him the look of smug used car salesman. I thought Biden could have used more charm and really didn't enjoy the laughing. I really do believe Obama and Biden hold Romney and Ryan in disdain.

 

[Jhhnn]

I am not whining I am wondering if Romney came off as disrespectful as Biden did tonight. Maybe I'm biased but I don't see it that way at all. Biden was a dick whether I feel upset about it or not.

Ryan deserves less respect than Biden gave him. He's been riding on a bandwagon of perception created by Repub propaganda- that he's some sort of policy wonk, when he hasn't even mastered arithmetic. It's a fraud.

 

[EXman]

I can agree with most of this (Obama definitely lost his debate more than Romney won it.) Though I don't think Biden was getting loud due to not having anything to say - quite the contrary. I think he was on-point more so than Ryan on most facts. I think Biden was just getting excited about how much worse his opponent was doing as time dragged on; not unlike a winning team starting to play sloppy in the final minutes as they are scoring point after point.

I'd even make the case that being interrupted may have helped Ryan, as he appeared to have prepared 30-minutes of scripted material for a 90-minute debate. Biden could probably talk for days on end (about nothing important in particular) without saying the same thing twice.

I think we agree for the most part but regardless of my vote, or lack of vote as I did not vote for McCain or Obama, I wish our VP had more self control. He should be more. And every time I see him speak it makes me glad he was not elected president. And I hope he would never have to be.

 

[buckshot24]

Ryan deserves less respect than Biden gave him. He's been riding on a bandwagon of perception created by Repub propaganda- that he's some sort of policy wonk, when he hasn't even mastered arithmetic. It's a fraud.

So you won't answer the question. Ok noted.

 

[jpeyton]

I found Ryan's mannerisms gave him the look of smug used car salesman.

Used car salesman is what I got from Ryan as well.

Biden called him out on every single topic. I expect Obama to do the same to Mitt in the next debate.

 

[buckshot24]

No Romney did not come off of as disrespectful -snipped bullshit-

Thank you for answering the question my friend, my dear dear pal.

 

[buckshot24]

Used car salesman is what I got from Ryan as well.

Biden called him out on every single topic. I expect Obama to do the same to Mitt in the next debate.

I could only dream that Obama would pull the same shit on the last two debates.

The performance that Biden had tonight is exactly what the in the tank voters wanted to see but the people who aren't sold, not so much.

Besides, you'd think Ryan was lying if he said water was wet, you're a partisan.

 

[jackstar7]

I think we agree for the most part but regardless of my vote, or lack of vote as I did not vote for McCain or Obama, I wish our VP had more self control. He should be more. And every time I see him speak it makes me glad he was not elected president. And I hope he would never have to be.

VPs are always the attack dogs of a campaign. Not sure why you want to see one behave in a more dignified way during a campaign event...

 

[jackstar7]

I could only dream that Obama would pull the same shit on the last two debates.

The performance that Biden had tonight is exactly what the in the tank voters wanted to see but the people who aren't sold, not so much.

Yeah? You speak for the undecided voters?

 

[buckshot24]

VPs are always the attack dogs of a campaign. Not sure why you want to see one behave in a more dignified way during a campaign event...

There has (from my memory) never been a vp act like this during a debate. For crying out loud people nailed Gore for sighs! This was out and out MSNBC thuggery.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Paul Ryan's delivery is even harder to listen to than Obama was in the first debate.

Biden looks way too pleased with himself. Grinning way too much.

Did we watch the same debate Biden spending way to much time looking down . Biden lost the battle . I did find out tho That 300,000 americans retire a month and that will contiue for 20 years . So The employment report was fudged bigtime 900,000 retirees ever Qt for the nect 20 years lol at the jobs reports . No new jobs just replacements at the same time 300,000 more people go on SS every month for the next 30 years,

Ryans deliver way better than Biden

Both Are Catholic BOO BOO Ryan said he wouldn't compromise on aborting other than the 3 he mentioned Both men said they believe life begins. conception .
Biden said he wouldn't stand in the way of other peoples belief and would go along with murdering babies . This is a real man this Biden,he is willing to scarifice his immortal spirit For these other people. Clearly he is man of principals. He said he believes life beginns at conception but was willing to pass into law murdering of live children . Demons ya got ta love them Self scraficing they are .
So this is amazing we have a Catholic and a muslim on one side and a Catholic and a mormon on the other lol. Obama did say he was muslim I showed ya the video the other day so no link its already here. But because Biden is willing to scarific his immortal spirit for others to become baby murders I have to stay with the obummer people . Even tho they have lost 2 debates now. I think obummer will bring to america the true justice it deserves

 

[buckshot24]

Yeah? You speak for the undecided voters?

No, I'm a partisan. I have to wonder how this plays though. I'm fascinated by it. All I know is the partisans wanted BLOOD and they got it. We'll have to see what independents think of it. Luntz's focus group didn't particularly care for it for the most part.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...us_group_on_vp_debate_biden_was_arrogant.html

 

[jackstar7]

There has (from my memory) never been a vp act like this during a debate. For crying out loud people nailed Gore for sighs! This was out and out MSNBC thuggery.

Elaborate on that, please. What made Biden a 'thug'?

 

[randomrogue]

Did we watch the same debate Biden spending way to much time looking down . Biden lost the battle . I did find out tho That 300,000 americans retire a month and that will contiue for 20 years . So The employment report was fudged bigtime 900,000 retirees ever Qt for the nect 20 years lol at the jobs reports . No new jobs just replacements at the same time 300,000 more people go on SS every month for the next 30 years,

Ryans deliver way better than Biden

Both Are Catholic BOO BOO Ryan said he wouldn't compromise on aborting other than the 3 he mentioned Both men said they believe life begins. conception .
Biden said he wouldn't stand in the way of other peoples belief and would go along with murdering babies . This is a real man this Biden,he is willing to scarifice his immortal spirit For these other people. Clearly he is man of principals. He said he believes life beginns at conception but was willing to pass into law murdering of live children . Demons ya got ta love them Self scraficing they are .
So this is amazing we have a Catholic and a muslim on one side and a Catholic and a mormon on the other lol. Obama did say he was muslim I showed ya the video the other day so no link its already here. But because Biden is willing to scarific his immortal spirit for others to become baby murders I have to stay with the obummer people . Even tho they have lost 2 debates now. I think obummer will bring to america the true justice it deserves

The year is 2012. Stop acting like you live during the middle ages.