The Official Vice-Presidential Debate Thread

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Capt Caveman

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If they're lying so badly why can't the other party fight back? Biden's just screaming and playing to emotions. Ryan keeps throwing out fact after fact. They might be wrong or factchecked later, but doesn't Biden have a list of facts designed to rebuttal this? Nope.

Like how more security is required for our Embassies but he wants to cut $300 million from securing them?
 

PJABBER

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CNN: Seeing positive reactions to Ryan, negative or flat when Biden plays his constant interrupt game.

Is this what his handlers suggested as a winning strategy? Pathetic.
 

Svnla

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I commented on the borrowing. Ryan/Romney attack and attack on borrowing but they themselves have no fucking plan.

And BO admin does? How was the deficits for the last 4 years?

Oh, I know, I know...it's all Bush fault.
 
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Biden is riot. Making direct appeals to viewers is not debating or refuting your opponent's arguments and neither is interrupting constantly.

to be honest Ryan is doing a bit of appealing to the audience too. but he's getting cut off by Biden too so it's hard to see him continue and build off the "if you have nothing to run on" argument and to see whether or not he'll go back to his facts.
 

EXman

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CNN: Seeing positive reactions to Ryan, negative or flat when Biden plays his constant interrupt game.

Is this what his handlers suggested as a winning strategy? Pathetic.

Honestly I think Biden just can't help himself. No self control.
 

PJABBER

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When Ryan gets to speak without interruption he gets great responses. Maybe the point of Biden's buffoonery is to prevent Ryan from getting out any response at all?
 

Wreckem

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And BO admin does? How was the deficits for the last 4 years?

Oh, I know, I know...it's all Bush fault.

Actually, by and large most of the deficit comes from two things.

300%+ increase to defense spending under Bush's 8 years. And two off the books wars in the sand box in the middle east.

Not only that, we have about another $2trillion of long term costs for those two wars. But yet Romney/Ryan and alot of GOPers are chomping at the bit to go to war with Iran.

And while Obama did have the state bailout/stimulus package. Bush had the bank bail out package.

People can knock the stimulus all they want, but the stimulus package saved a ton of jobs. State govt jobs, but jobs none the less. Public sector unemployment would be double to triple what it is if not for the stimulus package. Public sector unemployment is one reason why Obamas had a net 0/moderate loss in overall job creation. Private sector jobs have been fully recovered. Public sector jobs are still lagging by about 400-500k, which would have been worse if the stimulus package wasn't passed.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Ryan is saying he hasn't a clue about income. Biden needs to shut up. He'll get his turn.
 
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