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What is funny is how quickly what "couldn't be undone" was undone. I deal with companies like this company (well..and MS actually) on a daily basis. It's all talk. You ask them the same question 10 times, the first 5 times they'll say you can't do that, but keep asking and eventually they will change their tune when the right person is finally brought into the loop and come to find out, it could be done all along with no changes, they just didn't WANT you to do it because it wasn't in their best interest.

I hate when this is brought up, which continues to be the case. Just so we're all clear, here is what you're referring to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo&t=11m12s

To you, ImpulsE69, of course it looks like it was undone with a snap of a finger. You don't know anything about it, all you know is that one moment there was DRM, now there isn't. But why do you think they are requiring a one-time internet connection to download an update to disable this DRM? Because it is going to take a long time to strip that out, so long that they'll be boxing up consoles before they can get it done and tested.

So no, it isn't as easy as flipping a switch. Don't make it out to be. They never said it wasn't possible, just that it wasn't easy.
 

ImpulsE69

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I hate when this is brought up, which continues to be the case. Just so we're all clear, here is what you're referring to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo&t=11m12s

To you, ImpulsE69, of course it looks like it was undone with a snap of a finger. You don't know anything about it, all you know is that one moment there was DRM, now there isn't. But why do you think they are requiring a one-time internet connection to download an update to disable this DRM? Because it is going to take a long time to strip that out, so long that they'll be boxing up consoles before they can get it done and tested.

So no, it isn't as easy as flipping a switch. Don't make it out to be. They never said it wasn't possible, just that it wasn't easy.

1. MS representatives said repeatedly - we can't take any of it out, it's all built around ALL of this stuff you don't want.
2. MS 180'd a few days later saying they can take out most of it
3. MS also said you HAVE to use the Kinect on or it won't work.
4. MS then says no you don't even need to have the Kinect on to make it work. You don't have to use it at all.
5. MS then later says we will not ship them without Kinects because they are a core piece of the Xbox 1 (just how can they be core if it works fine w/o it?)

Do you think that they would have 180'd so soon if they didn't think they could get it fixed by launch when you assume they are shipping systems with the OLD code? No one said it was easy, they just LIED and said it couldn't be done hoping everyone would just let it go. Hell I assumed they are shipping with old code. If THAT person didn't know, then he shouldn't even be in the position or someone on their marketing team needs to lose their job because it was a very piss poor communication for a company that's been around the block for so long. They went into this either not knowing what it really was or trying to hide what it was. Either scenario is bad.

I don't NEED to know ALL the details, a little common sense tells you how this played out. You just have blinders on. I'm not dogging the product or changes, I'm dogging the business practices and the supposed "innovation" that some people seem to think people have stifled. (And i'm pretty sure the only reason for #5 is because they already have all these Kinects bundled with systems boxed up). If they never release one without a Kinect sometime in the future I will be extremely surprised.

All that being said, I think it will be a great system w/o all the other stuff they were trying to force on everyone. My guess is some of that could come back in the form of updates at some point for people who want it.
 
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sze5003

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Yeap the way they showed it to the public and presented information about the system in the beginning made it look like they didn't know what exactly they wanted to do. If you have an option to try something new in the market are you going to reveal every bit of information ? Nope. But people definitely freaked out about it because hey the customer is always right.
 

jrphoenix

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Looking into preordering the limited edition Forza 5. I see at $399 Ferrari racing wheel for sale on gamestop / amazon. That's kind of steep. Any news on any other racing wheels coming out for Xbox one for my play seat setup?
 

cmdrdredd

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Looking into preordering the limited edition Forza 5. I see at $399 Ferrari racing wheel for sale on gamestop / amazon. That's kind of steep. Any news on any other racing wheels coming out for Xbox one for my play seat setup?

i assume logitech will have one at some point. So far I haven't seen much out there.
 

ImpulsE69

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heh the funny thing is, they had new ideas and were taking the console in a new direction, but reverted all of those to make the console a more "traditional" console because of all the backlash.
I hate when this is brought up, which continues to be the case. Just so we're all clear, here is what you're referring to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RtSGFryKwo&t=11m12s

To you, ImpulsE69, of course it looks like it was undone with a snap of a finger. You don't know anything about it, all you know is that one moment there was DRM, now there isn't. But why do you think they are requiring a one-time internet connection to download an update to disable this DRM? Because it is going to take a long time to strip that out, so long that they'll be boxing up consoles before they can get it done and tested.

So no, it isn't as easy as flipping a switch. Don't make it out to be. They never said it wasn't possible, just that it wasn't easy.


can't believe this topic is still being brought up...

actually, i can.


Yea...I can too..considering those responses stemmed from a post that had to do with MS as a whole, not the Xbox 1, but...yea..let's play dumb.
 
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supermag24

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Has the PS4 killed the Xboxone??!!??!
Quick call an Ambulance!!!
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smackababy

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MS (I'd assume Xbox team members) are getting white Xbox Ones that look pretty nice. I hope those make it to release. =(
 

purbeast0

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definitely not a fan of white electronics, especially ones that sit in an entertainment center that could potentially be in the line of site of the display. with my current setup right now though it's all hidden away in a closet anyways.
 

smackababy

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The bezel on my TV is silver, so the silver / white Xbox would 'match' it. But, I don't really care so much about it matching, just functioning. (And if it is giving off the right energy... my GF is all about that Feng Shui, so much so she pays some lady to inspect our place. =( )
 

Aikouka

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The bezel on my TV is silver, so the silver / white Xbox would 'match' it. But, I don't really care so much about it matching, just functioning. (And if it is giving off the right energy... my GF is all about that Feng Shui, so much so she pays some lady to inspect our place. =( )

Ah, my bezel is fairly thin, but it's also silver. Silver goes pretty well with black though, so I don't really worry about it too much.

Also, I am sure that you can tell her that the consoles definitely give off plenty of "energy" and good vibrations (I've had that song stuck in my head ever since thinking of the terrible pun).
 

smackababy

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Yeah, I saw an article with that same picture this morning. Obviously, they won't be releasing that exact model, but one in that color way would be nice.
 

slugg

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So this isn't really a "hot deal," but just a heads up for those of you with a Chase credit card. Keep in mind that Amazon.com yields 5% cash back from October through December, which includes the Xbox One. My XBO preorder is with Amazon, so I look forward to getting the 25 bucks for something I was going to pay anyway. If your order is with Amazon and you have a Chase rewards card, switch your payment method!
 

Staples

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So this isn't really a "hot deal," but just a heads up for those of you with a Chase credit card. Keep in mind that Amazon.com yields 5% cash back from October through December, which includes the Xbox One. My XBO preorder is with Amazon, so I look forward to getting the 25 bucks for something I was going to pay anyway. If your order is with Amazon and you have a Chase rewards card, switch your payment method!

Can I use the Amazon.com Visa I have which already gets 3% off to make it 8%? It is a Chase card.
 

slugg

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Can I use the Amazon.com Visa I have which already gets 3% off to make it 8%? It is a Chase card.

No. I'm referring to Chase's cards that are part of the Ultimate Rewards programs, like the Sapphire card or Freedom Rewards. The Amazon card is issued by Chase, but you can't enroll it in Ultimate Rewards(tm).

I sound like a commercial or something. Not spam, I promise! LOL!
 

Aikouka

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Yeah, I have my pre-orders setup on my Chase card, and let me tell you... I'm going to breeze through that $1500 5% cash back bonus limit fast! Also, keep in mind that Chase recently added some new bonuses such as an additional year of warranty on all items purchased with your Chase card (similar to American Express).
 

Dominato3r

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I think I'm going to start off with AC4 and Forza. Maybe BF4 because I may be to lazy to upgrade the PC for it.
 

smackababy

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I got an email that Forza is available for preorder on Amazon. The Collector's Edition (or whatever it is called) was like $80 and I couldn't find what extra it came with. One thing I disliked about Forza 4 was that in order to get the unicorn cars, you had to buy the entire DLC pack of cars. I know they want to incentivise people to buy them, but come on! I don't want all those crappy cars, I just want the unicorn!
 
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