The Official Xbox One Thread

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Wingznut

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People who like sims are people who dream about doing that thing in real life. If I had an unlimited amount of time (and money, for that matter), I'd be racing cars.
Race, yes; actually work on, not one bit.
Oh, I'd be just fine building the cars, as well.

I used to drag race with my Plymouth, back in the day. Building and racing, then fixing it to make it faster and racing some more... That car is one of the highlights of my life. :biggrin:
 

PieIsAwesome

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I wonder if we will be seeing more games with improved resolutions on PS4.

If there is console A and console B, close enough in power, and games are so expensive to develop that the majority are multiplatform, then it makes sense to share as much assets as possible between the two systems. Same models, textures, effects, etc.

If console A is weaker than B, then that will be what limits the graphics of the multiplatform game. To take advantage of console B's power, something simple like bumping the resolution or improving AA can be done, with mostly everything else still being identical to the console A version.
 

smackababy

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Oct 30, 2008
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I've actually always wanted to learn to drift. I've done Autocross a few times in a friends RX-7 and had a blast.

Working on cars though, no thanks. There is a reason I pay mechanics; working on cars sucks. It is like they intentionally make them difficult to work with and for sure they make them require special tools for some tasks. I don't even change my own oil.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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I wonder if we will be seeing more games with improved resolutions on PS4.

If there is console A and console B, close enough in power, and games are so expensive to develop that the majority are multiplatform, then it makes sense to share as much assets as possible between the two systems. Same models, textures, effects, etc.

If console A is weaker than B, then that will be what limits the graphics of the multiplatform game. To take advantage of console B's power, something simple like bumping the resolution or improving AA can be done, with mostly everything else still being identical to the console A version.

What I think is happening is they are using the same assets for each console, with the same effects, and just rendering the Xbox One as a lower resolution than the PS4. CoD Ghosts probably does this, but the PS4 version is 1080p and the Xbox One version is 720p. Realistically, most people won't be able to tell the difference unless they do a side by side comparison of screen shots.
 

Rage187

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Dec 30, 2000
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It could be that the X1 has just as good graphics at 720 as the PS4 does at 900/1080.

I'm buying a PS4 but all the videos comparing the two and I don't see much of a difference.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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It could be that the X1 has just as good graphics at 720 as the PS4 does at 900/1080.

I'm buying a PS4 but all the videos comparing the two and I don't see much of a difference.

The Xbox one just looks brighter, more contrast. That's about all I can tell. And at a fast paced environment you wouldn't be able to tell unless you were playing on a very large tv..I don't think anyone would be playing in slow motion or have another console and tv next to you to compare. The argument is pointless and stupid.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Am I nuts for wanting to get this primarily for Forza? That's pretty much my only motivation for wanting one right now.

All I'm buying for the X1 is Killer Instinct and Forza 5.

I saw the 'making of' of the Xbox One invitation commercial in theaters the other day

Did they show it directly in front of a movie or was it one of those pre-movie advertisements for the people that get to the theater way too early?
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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If you're nuts, then I am joining you.

Forza is pretty much the reason I'm choosing Xbox over PS4 this month.

I can say that Forza and to a large extent Killer Instinct, are the reasons I am even looking at an XB1 right now at all. If they were not launch games I would not buy. Once I saw Forza I said I had to have it but I would not go for the entire DRM and online check in stuff. Once that was dropped, I was in there ASAP. Once I saw a bit more of Killer Instinct I decided that was another game I had to have.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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Did they show it directly in front of a movie or was it one of those pre-movie advertisements for the people that get to the theater way too early?

The way too early thing. But, it was only a few minutes before the previews start!
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I saw an article on IGN stating that Microsoft said the X1 will play audio CDs and stream DLNA content.
 

sze5003

Lifer
Aug 18, 2012
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That's interesting. Seems like a no-brainer though since it's Microsoft services and almost anyone has windows on a pc. Hopefully the PS4 integrates dlna later. If the price was the same I would consider it.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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literally the only reason i'm buying xbox1 is because of killer instinct. as soon as i heard the music at e3 i was refreshing amazon until i saw the x1 preorders up. had that game not been announced for it, i don't know if i would be buying an x1 at launch.

i only plan on purchasing killer instinct (got the pin ultimate edition, strat guide, and te2 arcade stick preordered) and crimson dragon and that's it. and dead rising 3 is a maybe right now.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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That's interesting. Seems like a no-brainer though since it's Microsoft services and almost anyone has windows on a pc. Hopefully the PS4 integrates dlna later. If the price was the same I would consider it.

It requires a supported "play to" player or whatever. Anyone have a clue what that means?
 

Q

Lifer
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Sorry to jut in here, and if this has been answered, I am sorry, but anyone know if there will be any word on a range of pre-order dates that should get the first round of shipments for Amazon? I pre-ordered mine in July, and was curious on how long I should expect to wait to receive my console. Anyone else get any info on Amazon pre-orders?
 

purbeast0

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Sep 13, 2001
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so got my hands on the x1 today. played forza and killer instinct, and watched fifa but did not play it.

they had 6 tvs - 2 forza, 2 fifa, and 2 killer instinct. everything was running on dev x1's. i actually saw the consoles and stuff when they did some switching around, so they were for sure NOT on pc's. the x1's playing fifa had fifa only on them, so they couldn't switch the games on there. the other ones had forza and killer instinct on them, and they could pick between those 2 games.

fifa pretty much had no people playing it at all other than when i first got there. forza had a line of about 5-6 people in it most of the time for the first hour or so. then it went down to like a line of 2 people. killer instinct on the other hand, the line was about 30 deep and would get a little bigger/shorter depending on the crowd at the time. EVERYONE wanted to play it.

after about an hour and a half, they replaced one of the fifa consoles with the other one. like i saw them unhook it and hook up a new machine, so that is where i got a glimpse of the consoles that they were really running on. then about 30 minutes later, they took the other fifa out and put a 4th killer instinct on. it was nice because it made the killer instinct line go a lot faster.

well here are some of my first impressions.

controller - feels virtually identical to the 360 controller other than the dpad, and the rumble in the triggers. the rumble in the triggers is a nice touch, especially in forza, how you feel it vibrate when braking and picking up speed. subtle but a nice touch. the dpad on the other hand, it was still terrible for killer instinct. it was okay when playing a non-qcf character, but when playing jago, it was just terrible.

killer instinct - going to be freaking amazing, i'm gonna post a long opinion of this in the ki thread, but i'll just say that killer instinct was BBYY FFAARR the game people there wanted to play the most.

forza - looks incredible. the graphics are REALLY REALLY good in the game. it's so buttery smooth. the game feels just like forza, and it's just extremely boring to me. but holy hell it's pretty. but again, the rumble in the triggers was a nice touch when braking and giving gas.

fifa - didn't play it, but it looked really nice and buttery smooth as well. it basically looked like a higher-res version of the fifa we've all seen before. it probably just looks like the pc version of fifa but i've never seen it before. the details and lighting were amazing though.

EDIT:

oh i also asked them if i could hook up my 360 joystick to try it out in killer instinct because i heard it worked on the dev boxes, and someone else did it at another van tour, but they were VERY VERY serious about NOT letting me hook it up. even after i talked to one guy for like 2 hours and we were shooting the shit, i asked again and he was like HELL NO NOT A CHANCE IN HELL! he later said he was hungry and i told him i'd buy him dinner at the chipotle right there if he let me put my joystick in, and again, he said hell no cause he could get fired. they said the guy that let the other guy hook up his joystick definitely should not have let him do that.
 
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Oct 19, 2000
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Sorry to jut in here, and if this has been answered, I am sorry, but anyone know if there will be any word on a range of pre-order dates that should get the first round of shipments for Amazon? I pre-ordered mine in July, and was curious on how long I should expect to wait to receive my console. Anyone else get any info on Amazon pre-orders?

There hasn't been any word to my knowledge, but I do believe if you check your orders on your account, the estimated ship date should give you an accurate estimate. What does it currently show? At this point, if it still shows estimated delivery on Nov. 22nd, I think you're probably golden.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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oh also just another note. when i was talking to the guy at the xbox1 tour thing, he was talking to this other guy who has 2 xbox1's on preorder, and he was telling the xbox1 guy how he was going to sell one. the xbox1 guy said that he should try and sell it as soon as he can after launch, because ms is making a SHITLOAD of them and will have a ton of them the first week after launch to sell in stores.

nothing concrete, but this was straight from one of the xbox guys on the tour.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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so got my hands on the x1 today. played forza and killer instinct, and watched fifa but did not play it.

they had 6 tvs - 2 forza, 2 fifa, and 2 killer instinct. everything was running on dev x1's. i actually saw the consoles and stuff when they did some switching around, so they were for sure NOT on pc's. the x1's playing fifa had fifa only on them, so they couldn't switch the games on there. the other ones had forza and killer instinct on them, and they could pick between those 2 games.

fifa pretty much had no people playing it at all other than when i first got there. forza had a line of about 5-6 people in it most of the time for the first hour or so. then it went down to like a line of 2 people. killer instinct on the other hand, the line was about 30 deep and would get a little bigger/shorter depending on the crowd at the time. EVERYONE wanted to play it.

after about an hour and a half, they replaced one of the fifa consoles with the other one. like i saw them unhook it and hook up a new machine, so that is where i got a glimpse of the consoles that they were really running on. then about 30 minutes later, they took the other fifa out and put a 4th killer instinct on. it was nice because it made the killer instinct line go a lot faster.

well here are some of my first impressions.

controller - feels virtually identical to the 360 controller other than the dpad, and the rumble in the triggers. the rumble in the triggers is a nice touch, especially in forza, how you feel it vibrate when braking and picking up speed. subtle but a nice touch. the dpad on the other hand, it was still terrible for killer instinct. it was okay when playing a non-qcf character, but when playing jago, it was just terrible.

killer instinct - going to be freaking amazing, i'm gonna post a long opinion of this in the ki thread, but i'll just say that killer instinct was BBYY FFAARR the game people there wanted to play the most.

forza - looks incredible. the graphics are REALLY REALLY good in the game. it's so buttery smooth. the game feels just like forza, and it's just extremely boring to me. but holy hell it's pretty. but again, the rumble in the triggers was a nice touch when braking and giving gas.

fifa - didn't play it, but it looked really nice and buttery smooth as well. it basically looked like a higher-res version of the fifa we've all seen before. it probably just looks like the pc version of fifa but i've never seen it before. the details and lighting were amazing though.

EDIT:

oh i also asked them if i could hook up my 360 joystick to try it out in killer instinct because i heard it worked on the dev boxes, and someone else did it at another van tour, but they were VERY VERY serious about NOT letting me hook it up. even after i talked to one guy for like 2 hours and we were shooting the shit, i asked again and he was like HELL NO NOT A CHANCE IN HELL! he later said he was hungry and i told him i'd buy him dinner at the chipotle right there if he let me put my joystick in, and again, he said hell no cause he could get fired. they said the guy that let the other guy hook up his joystick definitely should not have let him do that.

Sounds cool but it also sounds like the controller would work but they don't want people to know. Whether because the retail units don't work or they want to trick people into thinking they need all new accessories so they get more license fees from 3rd parties.

Anyway I really cannot wait to play forza.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Sounds cool but it also sounds like the controller would work but they don't want people to know. Whether because the retail units don't work or they want to trick people into thinking they need all new accessories so they get more license fees from 3rd parties.

Anyway I really cannot wait to play forza.

well it's already known that dev boxes can use 360 controllers, that is no secret. and it's also no secret that the retail x1 won't be able to use 360 controllers. so i don't think it's any super secret conspiracy.

and it's not like there are a ton of accessories to buy at launch with the console that will replace existing accessories, other than the ki stick. but there are not going to be many at launch anyways, so as soon as people have their x1 at home, they can try out an accessory, and it either works or it doesn't.
 
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fifa pretty much had no people playing it at all other than when i first got there. forza had a line of about 5-6 people in it most of the time for the first hour or so. then it went down to like a line of 2 people. killer instinct on the other hand, the line was about 30 deep and would get a little bigger/shorter depending on the crowd at the time. EVERYONE wanted to play it.

That's pretty impressive.

Thanks for the impressions.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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well it's already known that dev boxes can use 360 controllers, that is no secret. and it's also no secret that the retail x1 won't be able to use 360 controllers. so i don't think it's any super secret conspiracy.

and it's not like there are a ton of accessories to buy at launch with the console that will replace existing accessories, other than the ki stick. but there are not going to be many at launch anyways, so as soon as people have their x1 at home, they can try out an accessory, and it either works or it doesn't.

True...it is just odd to me that it was such a "hell no, no way, no how" thing.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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That's pretty impressive.

Thanks for the impressions.

yeah one of my buddies took some pics and videos i think, i'm sure he's going to post em in the thread over on srk, i'll post em in the ki thread here if he does. i just made a long post over in the ki thread if you wanna read some impressions specifically on that.

True...it is just odd to me that it was such a "hell no, no way, no how" thing.

yeah i'm guessing it's just because they don't want people to think that the final one will play 360 controllers. i mean it also wasn't like the x1's were right there to plug into. they were all inside of the van too, and the controllers were ran through the monitor somehow to the boxes.

also, the controller felt lighter than the 360 controller, but i think it might have been because it had no battery pack on it.
 
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