The Official Xbox One Thread

[BladeVenom]

Not sure if you actually read the whole story.

I read this part.

Update #4: Microsoft appears to have banned his console.

What did I miss?

 

[EightySix Four]

I read this part.

What did I miss?

There is a press embargo until the 15th and Microsoft isn't going to let a person who received the console early by accident dictate the press the console receives. They banned the console until general release or close to it. Not really sure what the big deal is here.

MS made two mistakes in this whole thing, not having a whitelist and giving everyone else an error message, and failing to tweet him before banning him. The fact that they banned him is perfectly logical to me. I'm curious what the outcome of his call with them is and how much he can say after the fact.

Edit: took out the mildly inflammatory opening sentence. Was not necessary.

Update: He just got off the phone with Major Nelson - he's been invited to the launch event, his console will be unbanned prior to launch (but MoonlightSwami can't say when), and he's no longer allowed to tweet about it until MajorNelson says so (and it is easy to assume this is after the 15th). Dude made out well, he got an early console, gets to go to the official launch, and grabbed a few thousand twitter followers.

 

[sze5003]

There is a press embargo until the 15th and Microsoft isn't going to let a person who received the console early by accident dictate the press the console receives. They banned the console until general release or close to it. Not really sure what the big deal is here.

MS made two mistakes in this whole thing, not having a whitelist and giving everyone else an error message, and failing to tweet him before banning him. The fact that they banned him is perfectly logical to me. I'm curious what the outcome of his call with them is and how much he can say after the fact.

Edit: took out the mildly inflammatory opening sentence. Was not necessary.

Update: He just got off the phone with Major Nelson - he's been invited to the launch event, his console will be unbanned prior to launch (but MoonlightSwami can't say when), and he's no longer allowed to tweet about it until MajorNelson says so (and it is easy to assume this is after the 15th). Dude made out well, he got an early console, gets to go to the official launch, and grabbed a few thousand twitter followers.

Ha major nelson called him that's pretty funny. "Now you better not tweet anything until I tell you to son." I guess it's good it will be unbanned on the 15th. I wonder what launch event he's going to and if they paid for him to go, if it's the main one.

 

[zerocool84]

I can understand why Microsoft would ban the console with two weeks left to go, they are obviously finalizing the software and don't want any leaks going out or anyone to see it since I'm sure there are bugs but to ban someone's console that purchased it legally, didn't do anything other than open a package they paid for, that'd piss me off.

 

[EightySix Four]

I can understand why Microsoft would ban the console with two weeks left to go, they are obviously finalizing the software and don't want any leaks going out or anyone to see it since I'm sure there are bugs but to ban someone's console that purchased it legally, didn't do anything other than open a package they paid for, that'd piss me off.

I, personally, would be pretty confident I was running on borrowed time the second I started tweeting about it

 

[purbeast0]

jesus christ people here love to ream microsoft over anything. it's retarded how hard people try on here to make microsoft look bad. this guy is not losing a thing by being banned on xbox live until next week. it isn't a big deal at all but people on the internet want to make a big deal out of nothing.

i had a 360 like 4-5 days early because i won the hex168 contest and had pgr3 with it because gamestop sold it before the console was out. i played on xbl no problem with some of the bizarre dev team. i played games with them and they were wondering how the hell i was online, but once i told them, they thought it was cool as shit. but that was 3-4 days early.

now this guy has it 2 weeks early and people are crying because microsoft doesn't want him exposing information that they have been keeping under wraps for months, because they want it to be out on the 15th when the embargo is lifted? and people have a problem with it? even though he will have the full system functionality when everyone else will?

ridiculous...

 

[Pheran]

Update: He just got off the phone with Major Nelson - he's been invited to the launch event, his console will be unbanned prior to launch (but MoonlightSwami can't say when), and he's no longer allowed to tweet about it until MajorNelson says so (and it is easy to assume this is after the 15th). Dude made out well, he got an early console, gets to go to the official launch, and grabbed a few thousand twitter followers.

Yeah, I figured they would compensate him in some way. But here's what galls me - Microsoft seems to think it's OK to act like giant douches until they start getting bad press because of it, then they scramble to fix it after the fact. That ban either never should have happened in the first place, or it should have happened after letting the user know and assuring him that it was only a temporary measure. You have to wonder how long he would have been banned if this whole thing hadn't gone viral.

 

[blurredvision]

I understand Microsoft's play here but the way they went about it was horrible. Banning his console seemed like a knee-jerk reaction without any thought into how it would be perceived.

All in all though, the only people raising a fit about it were people who hate the One and Microsoft already, so no biggie.

 

[EightySix Four]

Yeah, I figured they would compensate him in some way. But here's what galls me - Microsoft seems to think it's OK to act like giant douches until they start getting bad press because of it, then they scramble to fix it after the fact. That ban either never should have happened in the first place, or it should have happened after letting the user know and assuring him that it was only a temporary measure. You have to wonder how long he would have been banned if this whole thing hadn't gone viral.

It took Major Nelson less than 8 hours to message him after he was banned at around 2am. He didn't respond until ~5 hours later, and they spoke on the phone an hour after that.

They literally got a hold of him as fast as they could, did you want them to call him at 3 am and deal with it?

 

[Pheran]

They literally got a hold of him as fast as they could, did you want them to call him at 3 am and deal with it?

They didn't have to call him at 3 AM. They could have just held off on the ban until they contacted him. I'm shocked that anyone thinks this is OK behavior. It's pretty much the antithesis of good customer service (again, until after the fact).

 

[EightySix Four]

They didn't have to call him at 3 AM. They could have just held off on the ban until they contacted him. I'm shocked that anyone thinks this is OK behavior. It's pretty much the antithesis of good customer service.

Not when he was releasing information they didn't want released and the media embargo hadn't been released. I'm shocked anyone thinks this isn't completely normal for a product that hasn't been released yet and is two weeks away from launch.

 

[Pheran]

Not when he was releasing information they didn't want released and the media embargo hadn't been released. I'm shocked anyone thinks this isn't completely normal for a product that hasn't been released yet and is two weeks away from launch.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. Not to mention, the ban wouldn't have stopped him from releasing info in the first place.

 

[EightySix Four]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. Not to mention, the ban wouldn't have stopped him from releasing info in the first place.

It stopped the flood of info on his twitter feed pretty fast, which was the point. I doubt the console is even still banned, he has probably just agreed not to talk about it until after the media embargo is lifted. He even explicitly mentions on his feed that he will be talking about it more before the launch.

 

[Doppel]

I haven't paid much attention to this, but real quick summary: A guy--a random guy out of the blue--gets a One early, renames his Twitter feed to #1 source for Xbox one news for 15 min of fame, MS says hold up we are turning your shit off until our official launch window? If I'm wildly off, just say so and I can reread the thread instead of requesting anybody repeat something already said

 

[EightySix Four]

I haven't paid much attention to this, but real quick summary: A guy--a random guy out of the blue--gets a One early, renames his Twitter feed to #1 source for Xbox one news for 15 min of fame, MS says hold up we are turning your shit off until our official launch window? If I'm wildly off, just say so and I can reread the thread instead of requesting anybody repeat something already said

The only part you are missing is that they then contacted him, invited him to the launch party and told him they would turn it back on before launch at a date/time he isn't allowed to talk about.

 

[BladeVenom]

Microsoft makes Microsoft look bad. They abuse the DMCA, and then bully and threaten someone into keeping quiet. The only thing worse, is people who would defend such heavy handed behavior.

 

[Doppel]

The only part you are missing is that they then contacted him, invited him to the launch party and told him they would turn it back on before launch at a date/time he isn't allowed to talk about.

It doesn't seem a bad deal. Journalists for video games always hold their information until a certain date, which is why you'll see 20 reviews of a product hit online the same hour. This guy isn't an official journalist; it would be interesting to see how far MS would push this if he became belligerent and told them to pound sand, but it can't hurt to ask nicely. If they buy him off everyone wins.

 

[Skel]

Microsoft makes Microsoft look bad. They abuse the DMCA, and then bully and threaten someone into keeping quiet. The only thing worse, is people who would defend such heavy handed behavior.

I might have agreed with you, but according the rest of the article they've gone out of their way to make it right with him and it sounds like they're flying him to the launch event. I'm also guessing he's prob getting even more than that for the whole mess. We should all be such victims.

Having said that, I also know that while I do read and find most of your posts either entertaining or informative, you put the word Microsoft in it, all that goes out the window while you vent your frustrations with the company.

 

[Aikouka]

Wow. I think this Moonlightswami situation deserves more coverage. So, Target accidentally ships him (and maybe some others) an Xbox One early. He starts posting all kinds of coverage of the system online, nearly all of it positive, and generating a huge viral buzz for Microsoft. Their response? They ban his console and take down his YouTube video with a copyright claim.

The one thing that I don't see anyone mention are the copyright claims. I don't know much about that guy, but copyright claims made against a YouTube channel can really screw you over. If you get hit by three within six months, your account gets shut down permanently. So, unless Microsoft also tells YouTube to rescind the claim, he gets a strike on his record. It's also 100% bullshit and abusing the system that Microsoft can use a copyright claim against someone recording opening a product.

I don't care about the company blocking him until release date, but I do care about the YouTube thing... especially since it's been getting bad with other companies as of late too.

bizarre dev team.

Bizarre ... :'(

Stupid Activision. I like PGR, to which Microsoft owns the license, but I really want another Geometry Wars!

 

[EightySix Four]

The one thing that I don't see anyone mention are the copyright claims. I don't know much about that guy, but copyright claims made against a YouTube channel can really screw you over. If you get hit by three within six months, your account gets shut down permanently. So, unless Microsoft also tells YouTube to rescind the claim, he gets a strike on his record. It's also 100% bullshit and abusing the system that Microsoft can use a copyright claim against someone recording opening a product.

I don't care about the company blocking him until release date, but I do care about the YouTube thing... especially since it's been getting bad with other companies as of late too.

Microsoft had YouTube remove the claim.

 

[Larnz]

Man some awesome info in that neogaf thread. The UI looks really slick, I like it.

Man theres a huge diff between NBA 2k14 & Live in size lol.
NBA 2K14 - 43GB
NBA Live 14 - 9GB

Also KI coming in at a lowly 2.4GB seems quite small.

 

[slugg]

It's official; I cancelled my preorder. I hope you guys have fun with the launch.

 

[purbeast0]

Man some awesome info in that neogaf thread. The UI looks really slick, I like it.

Man theres a huge diff between NBA 2k14 & Live in size lol.
NBA 2K14 - 43GB
NBA Live 14 - 9GB

Also KI coming in at a lowly 2.4GB seems quite small.

glad ki is small, means if the servers are swamped it won't be too bad of a wait! there really isn't too much to ki since there isn't really THAT much content in the game. 6 characters and levels, no story mode, etc.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Man some awesome info in that neogaf thread. The UI looks really slick, I like it.

Man theres a huge diff between NBA 2k14 & Live in size lol.
NBA 2K14 - 43GB
NBA Live 14 - 9GB

Also KI coming in at a lowly 2.4GB seems quite small.

Yeah but with KI we are getting 6 characters, online play, some costumes, and dojo mode. I don't think there's much more than that. I have no idea why the two NBA games would have such a difference in install size. Perhaps 2k14 is using much higher resolution models and textures.

Here's my question though if you download the digital game would you be downloading all 40+GB? That could eat up a huge chunk of someone's monthly download limit if they have an ISP that is aggressive about it. The other thing I find strange is Battlefield 4 is 34.9GB install size on PS4 and XB1, but on PC with higher resolution assets it's 26.2GB according to my BF4 folder. Do the XB1 and PS4 not support the same type of compression as the PC game or something?

 

[EightySix Four]

Yeah but with KI we are getting 6 characters, online play, some costumes, and dojo mode. I don't think there's much more than that. I have no idea why the two NBA games would have such a difference in install size. Perhaps 2k14 is using much higher resolution models and textures.

Here's my question though if you download the digital game would you be downloading all 40+GB? That could eat up a huge chunk of someone's monthly download limit if they have an ISP that is aggressive about it. The other thing I find strange is Battlefield 4 is 34.9GB install size on PS4 and XB1, but on PC with higher resolution assets it's 26.2GB according to my BF4 folder. Do the XB1 and PS4 not support the same type of compression as the PC game or something?

Maybe the console versions are uncompressed to minimize the CPU penalty.