The Official Xbox One Thread

[OneOfTheseDays]

It looks like the TV integration just isn't ready for prime time yet if you're a home theater enthusiast.

The X1 is not able to pass your cable signal unmolested through it's system. It not only strips away the surround sound, it also dims the picture according to reports. This is unacceptable for me and frankly I will stay away from hooking in my DirectTV until they get that completely resolved.

Still, I have enough content through Netflix, HBO GO, Amazon Prime to make the media integration features worth it for me.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Let's see, 360 owned the market for 2.5 years. Until GTA5 came out only very recently (SEPTEMBER), where their packaged GTAV +P S3 pushed Sony ahead in total sales because it was significantly cheaper than XBOX360's bundle. That is not a win to me.

"The PlayStation 3’s victory looks more symbolic than strategic at this point, as a single month of sales won’t make much of a difference in market share for the seven year-old console."

Microsoft owns the gaming market, Sony is a copy cat in everything they do. Nintendo exists because of people like me who need mario/zelda to survive, and their children who buy the DS.

PSN would not have existed in any usable form without XBOX Live.

The other thing is you're talking about a United States produced piece of hardware vs. Japanese. Japanese viscerally rejected the 360 when it was launched there (do you REMEMBER?). They have too much pride.

You are still confused. MS has not won a single console generation. They may have "won" in the US, but not the world (and that's what really counts in overall numbers). Even in the US..it's not that far off. That being said, they kind of moved away from trying to be a world force with the 360 and probably even more so with the One.

And to be honest..I don't really give a crap who copied who..MS copies EVERYONE (or just buys them up). MS hasn't come up with a single original idea in decades IMO. They both copied Nintendo.

 

[purbeast0]

It looks like the TV integration just isn't ready for prime time yet if you're a home theater enthusiast.

The X1 is not able to pass your cable signal unmolested through it's system. It not only strips away the surround sound, it also dims the picture according to reports. This is unacceptable for me and frankly I will stay away from hooking in my DirectTV until they get that completely resolved.

Still, I have enough content through Netflix, HBO GO, Amazon Prime to make the media integration features worth it for me.

lol wow, for something they have been really emphasizing and even demo'ing in videos as working flawlessly, that is pretty sad that it's not ready. i guess not many people will be using the nfl overlay this season.

 

[smackababy]

Not to nitpick, but 360 sales is nearly double PS3 sales in the US. Global totals does give the PS3 the lead; but I think the 360 had a surge recently that moved it slightly above (I thought I read this, but I could be wrong).

As far as a win is concerned, the 360 was a massive win for MS. They went from near obscurity to actually having a competing console. They more than tripled the sales of their previous console and Sony barely hit 50%, granted the PS2 is pretty much godlike in sales numbers.

 

[cmdrdredd]

lol wow, for something they have been really emphasizing and even demo'ing in videos as working flawlessly, that is pretty sad that it's not ready. i guess not many people will be using the nfl overlay this season.

Picture degredation and stereo sound only? haha...no thanks.

Oh well...I'll still be able to play games lol.

 

[smackababy]

It looks like the TV integration just isn't ready for prime time yet if you're a home theater enthusiast.

The X1 is not able to pass your cable signal unmolested through it's system. It not only strips away the surround sound, it also dims the picture according to reports. This is unacceptable for me and frankly I will stay away from hooking in my DirectTV until they get that completely resolved.

Still, I have enough content through Netflix, HBO GO, Amazon Prime to make the media integration features worth it for me.

Any source on this?

The only thing I read about the HDMI passthrough was some strange HDCP stuff (it doesn't strip the requirement, so won't act as an HDCP compatible device or something).

 

[Aikouka]

The X1 is not able to pass your cable signal unmolested through it's system. It not only strips away the surround sound, it also dims the picture according to reports. This is unacceptable for me and frankly I will stay away from hooking in my DirectTV until they get that completely resolved.

Since the X1 merges the sound from the HDMI-In with whatever its generating (a game, Netflix, etc.), it makes sense that it would muck with the audio. Although, what exactly is it outputting? It should be able to convert from any other codecs (Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc.) to LPCM and then merge the streams. I do agree with reviews about the audio combining in that I'd like to see the ability to focus on one stream's audio feed over the other.

Also, the Ars review suggested that you cannot snap Skype, but I swear that Microsoft has shown that off before.

 

[smackababy]

Since the X1 merges the sound from the HDMI-In with whatever its generating (a game, Netflix, etc.), it makes sense that it would muck with the audio. Although, what exactly is it outputting? It should be able to convert from any other codecs (Dolby Digital, DTS-HD MA, Dolby TrueHD, etc.) to LPCM and then merge the streams. I do agree with reviews about the audio combining in that I'd like to see the ability to focus on one stream's audio feed over the other.

Also, the Ars review suggested that you cannot snap Skype, but I swear that Microsoft has shown that off before.

They've shown snapping Skype while playing. Perhaps the Ars reviewer didn't say "Xbox snap Skype"? Because, it pauses your game when it happens and then you can just resume by using the controller.

 

[blurredvision]

Also, the Ars review suggested that you cannot snap Skype, but I swear that Microsoft has shown that off before.

You can snap Skype but I don't think it shows video while snapped, audio-only.

 

[blackened23]

Not to nitpick, but 360 sales is nearly double PS3 sales in the US. Global totals does give the PS3 the lead; but I think the 360 had a surge recently that moved it slightly above (I thought I read this, but I could be wrong).

As far as a win is concerned, the 360 was a massive win for MS. They went from near obscurity to actually having a competing console. They more than tripled the sales of their previous console and Sony barely hit 50%, granted the PS2 is pretty much godlike in sales numbers.

Yeah, this is a very good point. I'm not sure how this will translate with the PS4 and XB1, but the xbox 360 was massively successful - NA is the most lucrative market for video games in terms of unit profit so with that being the case, the console was objectively a huge success. Overall sales slightly favored the PS3 (nobody bought the 360 in japan), but nonetheless the 360 did very very well.

What will be interesting is seeing if the following for the 360 will translate into high sales for the XB1 in NA. I'd say the 100$ price difference will make that improbable from the get go but it really depends on supply issues. And the price differences will even out over the lifetime of the consoles since GDDR5 is still very expensive and the BOM of XB1 will lower at a faster rate as compared to PS4. At some point in the future, both of these systems will either be at price parity of the XB1 may be cheaper. I can certainly guarantee that the BOM for the XB1 will lower MUCH MUCH faster than it will for the PS4 due to GDDR5.

I dunno. It's hard to declare a winner thus far. NA being the most lucrative market is still up in the air, and that battle is for the "long haul". Japan will certainly favor the PS4. Europe, probably PS4. It does seem that PS4 is the better pure gamer's machine but, the other features of the XB1 could win quite a following too - MS just needs to fix the functionality of Kinect and do so fast.

 

[Aikouka]

They've shown snapping Skype while playing. Perhaps the Ars reviewer didn't say "Xbox snap Skype"? Because, it pauses your game when it happens and then you can just resume by using the controller.

He seemed to have a good grasp on how to control the X1 with the Kinect, but I recall him expressing some frustration over misunderstood commands, ignored commands (no indication) or it requiring detailed phrasing (i.e. "XBOX, play Kinect Rivals" vs. "XBOX, play Kinect Rivals Preseason Demo").

Honestly, I think that Microsoft really needs to rethink its aim in regard to voice commands. We're so used to talking to our phones or our cars, but in a more conversational fashion, which allows the device to make suggestions or use imprecise requests to form options. For example, I could tell my car "Play Queen", and it will most likely as me whether I mean Queen or Queens of the Stone Age. This whole specific commands stuff is so last generation.

You can snap Skype but I don't think it shows video while snapped, audio-only.

That's kind of a bummer. If I remember correctly, the Ars article also said that unsnapping an app didn't allow it to run in the background. So, you couldn't start up music with XBOX Music and just let it play.

 

[Muadib]

Not to nitpick, but 360 sales is nearly double PS3 sales in the US. Global totals does give the PS3 the lead; but I think the 360 had a surge recently that moved it slightly above (I thought I read this, but I could be wrong).

As far as a win is concerned, the 360 was a massive win for MS. They went from near obscurity to actually having a competing console. They more than tripled the sales of their previous console and Sony barely hit 50%, granted the PS2 is pretty much godlike in sales numbers.

You need to tell this to the odds on fav to replace Ballmer. He's already on record saying he would drop Bing, and sell Xbox. That doesn't sound like a cash cow to me...

 

[smackababy]

You need to tell this to the odds on fav to replace Ballmer. He's already on record saying he would drop Bing, and sell Xbox. That doesn't sound like a cash cow to me...

He wants to transition MS to a services company, which is pretty stupid. They should stick with being a software company (which they are actually good at). However, if any hope in that DirectX will get sold off and some real improvements will get done to it.

The only reason the Xbox division wasn't profitable until late in the 360s lifecycle was because of the massive R&D and sink hole of money the original Xbox was. I am pretty sure each quarter except for the first made money for Xbox division, it was just massively in the red due to the Xbox costing billions.

 

[Larnz]

The Embargo on Ryse is so stupid. I will have my XBOX for like 12 hours before the embargo lifts and reviews are allowed (Due to NZ being GMT+12). Seems silly that its beign sold to the public before reviews are even allowed.

 

[ImpulsE69]

The Embargo on Ryse is so stupid. I will have my XBOX for like 12 hours before the embargo lifts and reviews are allowed (Due to NZ being GMT+12). Seems silly that its beign sold to the public before reviews are even allowed.

Clear sign that they know it sucks.

 

[BladeVenom]

Plugging an Xbone into itself, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHamQV-XEdc

 

[cmdrdredd]

Clear sign that they know it sucks.

Maybe so...All the PS4 reviews were out 2 full days before the system release date so we could form an opinion and make a decision. Holding back does seem to say something about what they expect the game to score. Especially when Forza, Dead Rising 3, and Killer Instinct (the other big 3 releases) have their reviews out.

 

[Skel]

It looks like the TV integration just isn't ready for prime time yet if you're a home theater enthusiast.

The X1 is not able to pass your cable signal unmolested through it's system. It not only strips away the surround sound, it also dims the picture according to reports. This is unacceptable for me and frankly I will stay away from hooking in my DirectTV until they get that completely resolved.

Still, I have enough content through Netflix, HBO GO, Amazon Prime to make the media integration features worth it for me.

Link? I'm not finding this info via my lacking Google skills..

 

[Larnz]

Clear sign that they know it sucks.

Quite probably. I wont pick it up with my console, I mean if it does turn out to be fun i can always download it which is pretty win.

 

[blurredvision]

Maybe so...All the PS4 reviews were out 2 full days before the system release date so we could form an opinion and make a decision. Holding back does seem to say something about what they expect the game to score. Especially when Forza, Dead Rising 3, and Killer Instinct (the other big 3 releases) have their reviews out.

I'm not saying that Ryse won't suck, but it feels obvious to me that Microsoft has staggered the embargos to keep fresh content coming out each day of launch week. A completely different perspective could say that they feel Ryse is their showstopper game (in a good way) and they're saving the best for last.

 

[SAWYER]

I just had a guy offer a Bushmaster AR15 and some extras for my extra One preorder. I do not know about guns but I do know AR15's are good so I asked a friend and he said hell yes to do that deal

 

[purbeast0]

Clear sign that they know it sucks.

that is what i had initially thought, but pretty much all of the reviews they have allowed out so far aren't that great either, other than forza, which was expected.

 

[Doppel]

I just had a guy offer a Bushmaster AR15 and some extras for my extra One preorder. I do not know about guns but I do know AR15's are good so I asked a friend and he said hell yes to do that deal

Guy1 shows up with xb1
Guy2 shows up with ar15
Guy2 leaves with xb1 and ar15

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This talk of embargo delays I would not read into it. In the grand scheme a day or two delay on a review will make no difference to sales.

 

[Aikouka]

You can download your X1 day-one update early:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/How_to_Update_Your_Xbox_One

 

[cmdrdredd]

You can download your X1 day-one update early:
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/How_to_Update_Your_Xbox_One

People are saying these are not the official ones, but early release versions that may not be appropriate for the regular retail consoles.