The Official Xbox One Thread

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Tweak155

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Guy1 shows up with xb1
Guy2 shows up with ar15
Guy2 leaves with xb1 and ar15


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This talk of embargo delays I would not read into it. In the grand scheme a day or two delay on a review will make no difference to sales.

Hahahahaha.
 

SAWYER

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People are such chicken littles! This isnt the hood, the guy lives in a town called Lake City about 30 miles from me and it is nothing but country. He is probably a farmer around there and has plenty of guns
 

bearxor

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He wants to transition MS to a services company, which is pretty stupid. They should stick with being a software company (which they are actually good at). However, if any hope in that DirectX will get sold off and some real improvements will get done to it.
That's what the future of software is. Software as a service. You need to make the software to power the back end and the software to present to the customer. It's coming and MS knows it even now.

The only reason the Xbox division wasn't profitable until late in the 360s lifecycle was because of the massive R&D and sink hole of money the original Xbox was. I am pretty sure each quarter except for the first made money for Xbox division, it was just massively in the red due to the Xbox costing billions.
The E&D division didn't begin posting quarterly profits until 2008. If you were to go back and look at all the losses they've had, they might just now be breaking about even. When they report quarterly revenue, they don't keep it as a running tally. It a snapshot of each individual quarter.

Even now, the E&D division barely breaks even. Of course, barely means like a billion dollars. But in the grand scheme of revenue generating opportunities at Microsoft the E&D division is WAAAAAAYYYYYYY down there. Like at the bottom. The only thing underneath it is the online services division. Which has never reported a quarterly profit, IIRC.
 

Doppel

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People are such chicken littles! This isnt the hood, the guy lives in a town called Lake City about 30 miles from me and it is nothing but country. He is probably a farmer around there and has plenty of guns
And plenty of places to bury a city boy who gots an awful purty' mouth on him.

I was joking, I imagine you'll probably not be killed trading it for an AR15.
 

Aikouka

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you should try to have it held at the hub tomorrow and go pick it up yourself lol.

They normally ship them out two days early because it will take two days to get there... or at least that's what I've seen. Mine hasn't shipped yet, which tells me that they'll either overnight it or they're shipping it from Tennessee.
 

zerocool84

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Yeah, this is a very good point. I'm not sure how this will translate with the PS4 and XB1, but the xbox 360 was massively successful - NA is the most lucrative market for video games in terms of unit profit so with that being the case, the console was objectively a huge success. Overall sales slightly favored the PS3 (nobody bought the 360 in japan), but nonetheless the 360 did very very well.

What will be interesting is seeing if the following for the 360 will translate into high sales for the XB1 in NA. I'd say the 100$ price difference will make that improbable from the get go but it really depends on supply issues. And the price differences will even out over the lifetime of the consoles since GDDR5 is still very expensive and the BOM of XB1 will lower at a faster rate as compared to PS4. At some point in the future, both of these systems will either be at price parity of the XB1 may be cheaper. I can certainly guarantee that the BOM for the XB1 will lower MUCH MUCH faster than it will for the PS4 due to GDDR5.

I dunno. It's hard to declare a winner thus far. NA being the most lucrative market is still up in the air, and that battle is for the "long haul". Japan will certainly favor the PS4. Europe, probably PS4. It does seem that PS4 is the better pure gamer's machine but, the other features of the XB1 could win quite a following too - MS just needs to fix the functionality of Kinect and do so fast.

You're forgetting the most important thing, Kinect. That it going to keep it at a higher price for the length of the generation. No way around it.
 

007ELmO

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They normally ship them out two days early because it will take two days to get there... or at least that's what I've seen. Mine hasn't shipped yet, which tells me that they'll either overnight it or they're shipping it from Tennessee.

Mine didn't ship either because I stupidly paid for overnight shipping.
 

blackened23

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You're forgetting the most important thing, Kinect. That it going to keep it at a higher price for the length of the generation. No way around it.

Nah, I don't agree. The BOM required for Kinect will depreciate far faster than that of GDDR5. The parts required will definitely cost less a year from now, whereas GDDR5 prices have been artificially high for some time with no end in sight. In fact, DRAM prices have actually gone up in the past year....not just GDDR5. GDDR5 just happens to be the most expensive by far.

I'm not saying XB1 is the better console or anything, i'm just saying that the price differential will not exist forever.
 
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Ugh, someone needs to share these. I don't want to have to wait for the downloads on launch day...

I wouldn't worry, from what I read, those were not the up-to-date UI files. I believe those are (were?) for emergency recovery of your console should your console seize up and you not be able to connect to the net.
 

Doppel

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Ugh, someone needs to share these. I don't want to have to wait for the downloads on launch day...
I bet MS doesn't have a huge problem supplying downloads to users. They are able to drop a service pack out to users regularly, have a huge network infrastructure. My guess is Xbox Live handles day one better than Sony's network did, and that wasn't a total catastrophe, even though it was down for some hours.
 

007ELmO

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I was fine with Sony's PSN, fast speeds, but XBOX Live architecture I'm sure kills anyone else's.
 

sze5003

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I bet MS doesn't have a huge problem supplying downloads to users. They are able to drop a service pack out to users regularly, have a huge network infrastructure. My guess is Xbox Live handles day one better than Sony's network did, and that wasn't a total catastrophe, even though it was down for some hours.

It's weird because I was able to log in on launch day after two tries on psn and I stayed on all weekend. But Xbox live has always been better supported.
 

boomhower

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I'm not saying XB1 is the better console or anything, i'm just saying that the price differential will not exist forever.

I think it will. It may not always be as much but I doubt we will see them on price parity. We should see what the BOM is in the next day or two but I'll be surprised if they couldn't have sold it for $400 and at worst broke even.
 

cmdrdredd

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The fact that they said that even if you dont press the right button in time the executions still happen completely ruined it. At least make it so that I die or the enemy breaks free if I screw up. The whole combat sounds terrible. They should have done the route of god of war instead and make it faster and more over the top.


Averaging 61 and that's bad when you consider the technical issues with DR3 and it is a solid 80. It is the mark of a bad game. Typical of crytek though, they can't seem to make a good game to save their life anymore. They make impressive engines and tech demos though.
 
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Tweak155

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I'll be picking my Zelda 3DS XL tomorrow, but not this... yet! I'll let my QA staff get to work before I pick it up next year
 

007ELmO

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I'll be picking my Zelda 3DS XL tomorrow, but not this... yet! I'll let my QA staff get to work before I pick it up next year

I was not impressed with the 3DS, battery life was weak, games were not that fun (IMO) and the handheld felt bulky. It made me miss my DS Lite.

Has anything gotten better?
 
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