The Official Xbox One Thread

[raasco]

kinect plugged in all the time for the one to function

http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4352732/xbox-one-requires-kinect

do not want

No more playing in my boxers.

 

[American Gunner]

Xbox One Does Require Internet Connection, Can't Play Offline Forever

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109

If true, that sucks.

 

[lupi]

Lol, online required. Well I know several family members that won't be updating.

 

[raasco]

If true, that sucks.

I'm still wondering if the PS4 is going to require something similar. Internet connection is something that is being rolled into everything. Look at Steam for example. It sucks for the people who just want to toss it in the spare bedroom for the kids and not worry about it or the people who live in the sticks who don't have it.

 

[RedRooster]

Wow, that NeoGaf thread is depressing, but true.
This is a devastating intro to the system I was so looking forward to.
I hate Sony controllers, and don't want to buy a new computer. So now what? Ugh.

 

[purbeast0]

Are you serious man? This is official coming from the horses mouth.

They will control this because you have to activate the game online on your live account before you play it. Also your console has a once every 24 hour login DRM in it. Read the links I posted above.

yeah, i see an xbox twitter saying it is false, then a kotaku article making claims bout people saying things. i'll wait till i read it on xbox.com before i make my decision.

also you didn't answer the question in my first scenario, about how ms can possibly do anything about that.

EDIT:

oh wow i just read it DOES require an internet connection...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/05/qa

how they will enforce that i wonder. that doesn't bother me but wow that is retarded. like what if you don't have your xbox hooked up online, is it going to just stop working after a while?

EDIT2:

holy crap if all that stuff is true ... then wow ms is setting up to fail big time.

 

[RedRooster]

That 24 hour authentication thing is only if you play it off the hard drive without the disc in. If you have the disc in the tray, I'm sure it'll authenticate off that just fine without an internet connection. Right? Just like now.

edit-I guess that doesn't make sense, cuz then your friend could take your disc and use it if you installed the game first.

Wow, can't believe they screwed up so bad. In one day, I almost want to sell my 360 now so I can wash my hands of these shysters.

 

[lupi]

A: * *No, it does not have to be always connected, but Xbox One does require a [almost always on] connection to the Internet.

 

[BeeBoop]

So, from all the information we have so far can we determine if Xbox ONE is more power than the PS4?

 

[lupi]

"On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play," said the Microsoft spokesperson in an email to Wired.

 

[zerocool84]

Bad about the games tied to account. Plus I hated battery packs and they are bringing it back for the controller. Microsoft is nickel and diming us the next generation as well. PS4 here I come.

 

[futurefields]

So, from all the information we have so far can we determine if Xbox ONE is more power than the PS4?

Less power for games, if thats what you meant. all signs point to it having a weaker GPU than PS4.

But, youll be able to watch star trek trailers on your cell phone or some shit :whiste:

 

[MichaelBarg]

A few not quite connected thoughts:

I am surprised after all the talk about always on that there isn't a really clear explanation from MS about this. How can they not expect this to be a big question people want answered?

Am I the only one who wants to hear a LOT more about privacy with this always on listening/waiting for me to talk to it feature?

Figures that they'd only show games (and not many/much of them) that I'm not interested in. I bet those sports titles/exclusives will move a significant # of units though.

I kinda like the media hub features. If the voice recognition works I can easily imagine coming home after work and telling my system to turn on, turn on a netflix show or tv network or whatever. Still needs some work though, cable boxes suck and this won't let me get rid of it. Also I still need my remote to turn the TV on/off. It won't sell the unit to me, but I do think they're some good looking features.

Best news IMO is 8 new exclusive franchises. Launching a new console is a perfect time to launch new IP. Hopefully at E3 we'll see some demos, and hopefully they have a pretty high good game to bad game ratio out of those 8.

Overall I guess I'm still in wait-and-see mode, but cautiously optimistic.

 

[Anubis]

yea the kinect thing could be a privacy nightmare. especially in other countries who have much stricter laws about some of that vs the USA

 

[SAWYER]

I really dont get how MS could screw up and blow all that gamer momentum they have built up the past two generations

 

[badb0y]

They are somewhat back tracking now by saying it's not "set in stone."

Someone should have told Phil Harrison that....

 

[tential]

I think you're probably right that Microsoft is changing tactics - the marketing strategy for this next machine will be about living room domination throughout activities of all types, not just gaming. I think that we're going to have less of a console war and more of a living room war now - Microsoft is going to go at this with a machine that's multi-functional and by most accounts is a little less powerful as it relates to video games, while Sony may be going the purist gaming route. There's room (and money) for both machines in a lot of living rooms, so both are probably good strategies for the respective companies.

I work for a media company and people here have been talking about the "second screen experience" for some time. Watching TV while also using a laptop, tablet or phone to browse whatever is something people already do - the Xbox One is just doing that in a slightly more official and integrated manner. This is smart of them - they're catering to a market practically begging for a product to buy.

It's important to remember that the people in the world who care enough about video games and consoles to post about them on the Internet are a very small percentage compared to the amount of people who will be looking to buy the newest, hottest living room toy that will be used by the entire family come Christmas 2013. I think this is an entirely rational decision on Microsoft's part. Let's just hope they don't drop the ball on the gaming part of the equation.

I just wanted to clarify this isn't a change in tactics. This has been microsofts statement for as long as I can remember. They wanted to control the living room. It started with Windows Media Center which was first too expensive (since you had to build a PC to use it). Then it was also too complicated, I'm on HTPC forums and WMC, XBMC, Plex, are all quite complicated to set up, even more so for the average person, and then the Xbox 360, which offers functionality, but not enough of it, and now the Xbox One, which I'm expecting at launch to be able to offer quite a number of features. If it can add Live TV + DVR (hasn't been confirmed I think) it can truly hit it's goal of being the centerpiece of the living room. Especially since it's on x86.

Edit: I'm still reading about people whining about how they didn't show games off. E3 is right around the corner.
1) They aren't going to show games now and steal the thunder from E3 when developers want to show off their own hardwork for themselves
2) Consoles aren't all about games. I know you identify yourselves as gamers, it's obvious you're on a gaming forum. The vast majority of people don't consider themselves to be "gamers". They play video games but they aren't "gamers". So while you care so much that you're freaking out about it and upset about it, microsoft is doing what any company does, they're trying to make money. All my friends on my xbox account (casual gamers I don't know hard core gamers anymore), are on Netflix, HBO GO, etc. when I see them logged on. I can message them to play a game of course. Adding TV, and making this as a center piece of the living room does one IMPORTANT thing. It allows people to spend more time on the console, and if I'm watching TV on my Xbox and someone wants to play a video game, surprise, I just jump right in, and I now spend MORE time on the console. And they have IE, Skype, ETC. It's obvious what Microsoft's goal is. It's to keep you from leaving the Xbox interface. Most likely, it'll work.

 

[RedRooster]

I just wanted to clarify this isn't a change in tactics. This has been microsofts statement for as long as I can remember. They wanted to control the living room. It started with Windows Media Center which was first too expensive (since you had to build a PC to use it). Then it was also too complicated, I'm on HTPC forums and WMC, XBMC, Plex, are all quite complicated to set up, even more so for the average person, and then the Xbox 360, which offers functionality, but not enough of it, and now the Xbox One, which I'm expecting at launch to be able to offer quite a number of features. If it can add Live TV + DVR (hasn't been confirmed I think) it can truly hit it's goal of being the centerpiece of the living room. Especially since it's on x86.

Only in the US.

 

[Anubis]

Francis makes me laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s

 

[lupi]

Unless you hate exclusitivity, then that isn't really a plus. And I despise voice prompted suppoert calls, WTF would I want my TV to be run like one.

 

[zerocool84]

Everywhere I read keeps saying that you can keep playing a game if your Internet drops but say nothing about needing internet in the first place to play. Sony said you don't need it, Microsoft hasn't and it's not a good sign they haven't confirmed.

 

[RedRooster]

Francis makes me laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s

LOL!! Frank's getting fired up, I love it! :biggrin:

 

[Nintendesert]

Francis makes me laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s

HAHAHA he's got some genius videos at times.

 

[tential]

Only in the US.

I live in America, so I care about it. It's still a + over the PS4, I'm not saying any console is better than any. Only that PS4 is seeming to appeal to a select market of people who consider themselves as "gamers" and Xbox is seeming to try to hit the more wide market.

It's sad that people here already feel a console will "Fail" because it doesn't appear to hard core gamers. Sorry guys, you aren't the majority. If you're a hard core gamer, MS already knows you have a PC, or some other device already. It just wants to make money.

I'm going to wait for both to be out abit before I call a verdict to a winner.

I will say I agree SOMEWHAT with you guys saying MS should clarify complaints. However, I think you guys are extremely over reacting. Again, the average consumer didn't see this. They don't care yet as it's not affecting a purchasing decision. That decision is SIX months away. You guys may be freaking out because AGAIN, it's ENTHUSIASTS who saw this. Average Joe didn't.

What's my idea of what will happen (speculation). MS is going to gauge initial reaction from the small minority of people who saw this. They'll sit down with the finance, marketing, and everyone else who matters and decide "will we lose a lot of people to PS4 because of this or that tactic or not." 2-3 months from now as information trickles down we'll get things clarified, as MS themselves clarifies it themselves.

Nothing is set in stone right now. Hell, they even stated the console's case isn't even set in stone. I'm hardly worried. It is crunch time though.

As for powerful console, I'm pretty sure the PS3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360(not positive and baring one small problem of course), but there is more to a console than power. Like I said though, I'd wait at least 4 months before we make any assumptions on "who is going to fail". A lot of these decisions can be changed easily so I'd say it's too early to make assumptions.

 

[raasco]

Francis makes me laugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyD1VlQdj2s

OMG, why have I not seen him before?