The Official Xbox One Thread

[Topweasel]

So you're saying that MS forced it on people because once they try it, they will enjoy using it? What about space requirements, not wanting to wake others up in your house by shouting at your TV etc.? Then the Xbone is not for me?

You have to account for space in any purchase. Is my TV big enough or to big for this area? Can I get a double door Fridge? Can I get my couch into the basement? Does my room support a King Sized bed?

As another user said properly setup you don't have to yell at it and if you are finding that you have to it's probably because your game is loud enough that one Zombie attack is probably as if not more noisy then your yelling.

They aren't forcing it on you any more than they are forcing users to by Xbox Live if the want streaming and MP gaming. Yeah sure you can live like that, but is it really something you can call living. Not even saying everyone will love it. MS developed a technology for the Xbox that they felt added enough to the console that they took the safe route with DDR3, cut the CPU/GPU down a little bit, and still had to charge more for the system than the competitor (who was going to bundle the PS Cam but backed tracked quickly with MS's backlash and the opportunity to under cut them on price). They didn't make that choice lightly. They took a lot of chances and will in the near future deal with the backlash of alienating some fans on this choice. But they felt it was a feature that they had have it for developers to use and to differentiate the system from the competitors.

I won't even say you will like it. Just saying that its a core component of the Xboxone interface and expected input system for game developers and one of the major reasons to get an xbone. You would only be getting part of the experience by unplugging it and it will be apparent as you use the system that you are missing something big.

That said. It's the major reason I am using my Xbone everyday while my PS4 stays in standby for weeks at a time.

 

[Topweasel]

This might seem weird but I WANT to want an Xbox One, but can't justify it.

If you don't want an Xbone and you just want some reason for you to be convinced to get the Xbone. Than you really don't want one and if takes removing a core component that most of the interface was built around to convince you that you now want an xbone, rather then Microsoft adding something to make the console add value. Than you really aren't trying to make the console better.

It would be like going to a pound and finding a dog. Instead of talking to the people and haggling price or getting them to throw in free checkups or something. Instead telling them to rip out the spine of the dog, because you don't think he needs it and you don't want to feel forced to pay for a spine you don't want.

 

[EightySix Four]

Speaking of Kinect, have you guys figured out the "hulk" gesture for opening and closing apps on the homescreen? It's awesome.

 

[cmdrdredd]

10 dollars for 48 hours is a HORRIBLE trade imo. Beyond the fact that people would probably try to fiend games in 2 days that can be fiended, you are paying about 20% of the game's cost for just weekend access.

Give me game demos which are free ANY DAY.

Sony's idea of full access with a time limit isn't that bad either, although it isn't for me; For most games, it should only take 1 hour to figure out if you are interested or not.

It's a good trade when nearly every game released has no demo at all and no way to play it before you put down $60. I'd pay $10 to try a game for a couple days for sure rather than spend $60 on a pile of shit that someone put on the disk.

I want demos but almost nobody is making them, and when they do the demo is using code from some trade show 6 months before the game went gold and as a result it looks different, runs like crap, and is clunky. The full game might not be like that but how will we know?

I'd rent a ton of games if they would do it.

 

[Drako]

Speaking of Kinect, have you guys figured out the "hulk" gesture for opening and closing apps on the homescreen? It's awesome.

I've never heard it referred to as the "hulk" gesture, but I've played around with it a bit. It's useful for general navigation.

I've used the voice commands a lot more than the gesture commands because I usually have the controller in my hands.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Speaking of Kinect, have you guys figured out the "hulk" gesture for opening and closing apps on the homescreen? It's awesome.

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[blurredvision]

To the people that have KI, do you have to buy the $20 version to unlock acheivements?

I'm pretty sure the answer to this is, yes.

 

[nOd3N1AL]

If you don't want an Xbone and you just want some reason for you to be convinced to get the Xbone. Than you really don't want one and if takes removing a core component that most of the interface was built around to convince you that you now want an xbone, rather then Microsoft adding something to make the console add value. Than you really aren't trying to make the console better.

It would be like going to a pound and finding a dog. Instead of talking to the people and haggling price or getting them to throw in free checkups or something. Instead telling them to rip out the spine of the dog, because you don't think he needs it and you don't want to feel forced to pay for a spine you don't want.

Good way of putting it i suppose

 

[purbeast0]

If you don't want an Xbone and you just want some reason for you to be convinced to get the Xbone. Than you really don't want one and if takes removing a core component that most of the interface was built around to convince you that you now want an xbone, rather then Microsoft adding something to make the console add value. Than you really aren't trying to make the console better.

It would be like going to a pound and finding a dog. Instead of talking to the people and haggling price or getting them to throw in free checkups or something. Instead telling them to rip out the spine of the dog, because you don't think he needs it and you don't want to feel forced to pay for a spine you don't want.

eh i have an xbox one, and i don't use my kinect at all. i only have it plugged in because it is required (for some stupid reason) to use upload studio. it's sitting in my a/v closet on top of my xbox1. the cord is too short for me to even use it. so i'm not using the kinect at all nor do i really care.

i would have paid $500 for the xbox1 without the kinect too. having the kinect included or not had nothign to do with my decision of wanting an xbox one.

and on another funny note ... check this link out...

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xb...-During-Killer-Instinct-Tournament-61114.html

 

[nOd3N1AL]

It's a good trade when nearly every game released has no demo at all and no way to play it before you put down $60. I'd pay $10 to try a game for a couple days for sure rather than spend $60 on a pile of shit that someone put on the disk.

I want demos but almost nobody is making them, and when they do the demo is using code from some trade show 6 months before the game went gold and as a result it looks different, runs like crap, and is clunky. The full game might not be like that but how will we know?

I'd rent a ton of games if they would do it.

For most games, a review or gameplay video is sufficient enough

 

[EightySix Four]

??

With an app open, put your hands out to the sides about shoulder height, when you see the hands on screen close your fingers and pull towards the center of the screen (like closing curtains or something). The inverse also works where you grab the middle of the screen with two hands and pull outward and an app opens.

I call it the hulk because it feels like you are tearing through something.

 

[Ns1]

With an app open, put your hands out to the sides about shoulder height, when you see the hands, close your fist and pull towards the center of the screen. The inverse also works where you grab the middle of the screen with two hands and pull outward and an app opens.

I call it the hulk because it feels like you are tearing through something.

LOL

caps

 

[Tweak155]

eh i have an xbox one, and i don't use my kinect at all. i only have it plugged in because it is required (for some stupid reason) to use upload studio. it's sitting in my a/v closet on top of my xbox1. the cord is too short for me to even use it. so i'm not using the kinect at all nor do i really care.

i would have paid $500 for the xbox1 without the kinect too. having the kinect included or not had nothign to do with my decision of wanting an xbox one.

and on another funny note ... check this link out...

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xb...-During-Killer-Instinct-Tournament-61114.html

Dang that link is disturbing.

 

[cmdrdredd]

For most games, a review or gameplay video is sufficient enough

No it's not. Ryse is better than every negative review as is Knack.

I do read reviews but there are actual players who say the exact opposite. After trying the games in question I agree. Other games get good scores and positive reviews but are almost universally declated to be worse than reviews by actual players. Killzone is one such beast. Most people I've talked to didn't really like it much. Some people said the same about Dead Rising 3 even though it got good reviews too.

 

[blurredvision]

and on another funny note ... check this link out...

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xb...-During-Killer-Instinct-Tournament-61114.html

When I took my One up to a friend's house last weekend, KI wouldn't even launch, it kept crashing after the Start screen and before it does the store check before loading the main menu. Took about 4 or 5 times of it crashing before I thought to hook up to his wireless, at which point it loaded fine.

Not sure what the deal with that was.

 

[smackababy]

When I took my One up to a friend's house last weekend, KI wouldn't even launch, it kept crashing after the Start screen and before it does the store check before loading the main menu. Took about 4 or 5 times of it crashing before I thought to hook up to his wireless, at which point it loaded fine.

Not sure what the deal with that was.

I don't it was designed to be played offline and they haven't patched in some saving system for the store purchases. I'd imagine they haven't coded that in yet. However, it could be that KI requires an internet connection.

 

[American Gunner]

I love how they try to say the 24 hour check in is required again when it isn't. It's an issue with KI. But people will eat it up, so everyone might want to buckle up.

 

[purbeast0]

gonna put this out there, but yeah, i think Ryse looks better than Killzone does on ps4. i just finished the 4th level where you are outside in the forest, and that level has probably the best graphics i've ever seen in a game. and the acting and facial animations in this game are just ridiculous. it's crazy how realistic it is.

 

[cmdrdredd]

gonna put this out there, but yeah, i think Ryse looks better than Killzone does on ps4. i just finished the 4th level where you are outside in the forest, and that level has probably the best graphics i've ever seen in a game. and the acting and facial animations in this game are just ridiculous. it's crazy how realistic it is.

Cryengine can do some great things. They just need to license it out more. Crysis 3 was amazing on a technical level in terms of graphics but the game wasn't very memorable. Fun in some parts but not earth shattering. Ryse is an example of what the engine can do, even without high end pc hardware. They have also shown that you dont have to build a shooter around cryengine.

 

[Aikouka]

Hmm is Gamestop still taking $40 for Killzone used? That's how much I paid for it on Amazon, so I'm not exactly worried about it, and I think I would enjoy an action game a lot more than a shooter where I'd keep grumbling, "Grrr I want a mouse!"

 

[purbeast0]

Hmm is Gamestop still taking $40 for Killzone used? That's how much I paid for it on Amazon, so I'm not exactly worried about it, and I think I would enjoy an action game a lot more than a shooter where I'd keep grumbling, "Grrr I want a mouse!"

yep, until the 22nd.

http://www.gamestop.com//collection/nextgentrade

 

[American Gunner]

gonna put this out there, but yeah, i think Ryse looks better than Killzone does on ps4. i just finished the 4th level where you are outside in the forest, and that level has probably the best graphics i've ever seen in a game. and the acting and facial animations in this game are just ridiculous. it's crazy how realistic it is.

Wait until you get to a part with a building and some fire. That looks amazing.

 

[Todd33]

gonna put this out there, but yeah, i think Ryse looks better than Killzone does on ps4. i just finished the 4th level where you are outside in the forest, and that level has probably the best graphics i've ever seen in a game. and the acting and facial animations in this game are just ridiculous. it's crazy how realistic it is.

Well let's be fair, they are two different games aiming for different designs. One is 1080P and one is 900P, that is 44% more pixels. One is running at 30-50fps, the other is 20-30fps. Apples and oranges in design and scope.

 

[purbeast0]

Well let's be fair, they are two different games aiming for different designs. One is 1080P and one is 900P, that is 44% more pixels. One is running at 30-50fps, the other is 20-30fps. Apples and oranges in design and scope.

and absolutely none of that matters at all to me when saying one looks better than the other. ryse flat out looks better than kz to me, no matter how you want to swing it.

 

[sze5003]

I could see why people would say it looks better than killzone. Killzone is nothing but grays, shadows, dark colors where as in a hack and slash game like Ryse you have real environments to model.