It's bigger business for The Playstation brand to get people to buy the console and sign up for PSN though.
Hopefully Sony will figure out how to have multiple accounts logged into the same console in the next generation. I can't understand how they screwed that up so badly.
If you log in to one account on XBL, then try to log in with another...you aren't using account 1 so why does it matter if it logs you out or not??
Subs != worth. There's only that many because it's required to play online. If it wasn't, I bet there wouldn't be nearly as many, considering it doesn't offer anything else.
If you log in to one account on XBL, then try to log in with another...you aren't using account 1 so why does it matter if it logs you out or not??
You seem extremely confused. My daughter and I play on the same console all the time. The Xbox lets have both of profiles loaded at the same time, one linked to one controller the second linked to the other controller.
The PS3 account system is so poorly designed that it doesn't allow this.
There are people who like that pat on the back, so why can't it be done? Sony has lagged in a lot of areas on their online service this generation, and I hope they catch up. It may be small things to some people, but a big turn off to others. Why do my updates have to take so long on PSN (I just bought Gran Turismo 5 and installed everything last night. It literally took one hour for all updates and installs). Why can't I chat with someone while they play another game? Why can't I have two accounts signed in at once? Why do I have to sync trophies before I can view them? All these may seem like small issues, but when stacked up (especially the updates and trophies issue) they cost gamers time.That's not the PS3 design, it's PSN design. They don't allow two accounts in use at once. Same for Vita.
What benefit do you get by having two accounts loaded anyway? If you say achievements/trophies I'm just gonna laugh at you.
If you're having fun it would not matter that you get some virtual pat on the back.
That's not the PS3 design, it's PSN design. They don't allow two accounts in use at once. Same for Vita.
What benefit do you get by having two accounts loaded anyway? If you say achievements/trophies I'm just gonna laugh at you.
If you're having fun it would not matter that you get some virtual pat on the back.
Parental controls for certain accounts. Content is only available to the account that purchased it on XboxLive. I know PSN had "issues" with someone buying DLC, letting multiple people log in to the account that purchased it, redownload the DLC, then simply remove that account from their PS3. They still have complete access to this content. Saves are stored via individual account, especially cloud saves. Stats and leaderboards are tied to one ID. I wouldn't let a child play on a high ranked SFIV account. (Not that I have one. I am not an online warrior.)
There are multiple reasons be able to have multiple accounts on a system. Why are there multiple user accounts on Windows? If you say backgrounds / themes I'm just gonna laugh at you.
How about games progress that's saved to each account? In game unlockables linked to a character saved per account?
Stop being a douchebag and realize that not everybody is a shut-in loser that plays games by themselves.
Someone doesn't know how to read. This was NOT about having multiple accounts on a system. I have 3 accounts on my PS3 right now. One for Japan, one for Europe and one for North America.
This was about being able to have two different accounts logged in at once.
Way to miss the buss.
As for the achievements thing I was talking about the possibility of both players gaining an achievement which honestly has zero bearing on whether a game is good, fun, or a big steaming turd in a box. In multiplayer, especially local multiplayer there is zero drive to get a trophy or achievement to me. Even single player I don't care. To get a trophy the developer often assumes you play a certain way. I play my own way.
The worst thing to come from achievements and trophies is giving them away for plaything through the game normally. Get to mission 2? Get achievement...ugh. The whole point of playing the campaign is to get through each mission.
who the hell are you to say what is "fun" to gamers? what is fun to someone may not be fun to you. just like you think im missing out on the best story in a game this year by not finishing bioshock infinite. well guess what? the game is boring as hell to me after more than 2 hours, it's not FUN. i don't give a shit about the story because the game is not fun to me. just like there are thousands of "good books" out there but not 1 of them interests me because i don't like reading novels.
there are NUMEROUS reasons why you would want 2 accounts loaded at once and many have been mentioned in this thread already. it's retarded that one would defend that there is "no reason" to have 2 simultaneous accounts loaded at the same time on a console.
Story makes a game most of the time. I'm sorry you didn't get to kill a thousand zombies the first 30minutes of Bioshock Infinite.
I was asking a legitimate question and posting my personal greviences about achievements. I'm sorry if someone who doesn't give a shit about them makes you go off your meds.
oh ok got it. so someone who doesn't like bioshock automatically loves playing zombies cod.
and someone who disagrees with you is on meds.
gotcha.
Story makes a game most of the time. I'm sorry you didn't get to kill a thousand zombies the first 30minutes of Bioshock Infinite.
I was asking a legitimate question and posting my personal greviences about achievements. I'm sorry if someone who doesn't give a shit about them makes you go off your meds.
Worth the money compared to what? There is only one alternative to play console games online and that is PSN. You either pay the fee, play on PSN, or don't play at all. The features XboxLive offers, while not for everyone, is worth the price to 30 million subscribers. Your idea that they only subscribe because they don't have a choice makes little sense. They had a choice when they chose to use a console with a subscription based online service. The service was in place way before the Xbox360 was released. PSN and the PS3 are the free alternatives, if paying a whole $50 a year breaks your bank.
All of the features I listed are not offered in any single system except XboxLive.
Someone doesn't know how to read. This was NOT about having multiple accounts on a system. I have 3 accounts on my PS3 right now. One for Japan, one for Europe and one for North America.
This was about being able to have two different accounts logged in at once.
Way to miss the buss.
As for the achievements thing I was talking about the possibility of both players gaining an achievement which honestly has zero bearing on whether a game is good, fun, or a big steaming turd in a box. In multiplayer, especially local multiplayer there is zero drive to get a trophy or achievement to me. Even single player I don't care. To get a trophy the developer often assumes you play a certain way. I play my own way.
The worst thing to come from achievements and trophies is giving them away for plaything through the game normally. Get to mission 2? Get achievement...ugh. The whole point of playing the campaign is to get through each mission.
I've been trying to find a reliable source for just how many paid xbox live subscribers there really are, I'm skeptical of this 30 million number, or the even larger 46 million number some places report.
That's more than half of ALL the xboxes ever sold, including all the busted ones. So there are no Silver members ?
Just anecdotal but of the 10 or so people I know who have had Gold accounts at one time or another, only 2 have them right now.
Is there any way that they moved the reveal back to drop this "always online" requirement if it was true and they saw all the bad press? Is it something that can be changed and would allow them to still make the launch window?