The Official Xbox One Thread

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BoberFett

Lifer
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Do you talk to people now that have Kinect? It is horrible. It picks up all the ambient noise in the room. I don't want that crap, I just want a regular headset.

I ended up disabling voice commands. It became a real pain in the ass to have Netflix, etc. pausing due to incorrectly heard dialog.

And I'd much rather have a headset with a mic than use Kinect. I hate having voice come through the speakers. You never know what the people on the other end of the line are going to say. There's a lot of losers out there on the intarwebz playing video games. I'm surprised that one made it past the design team, with their focus on this being a family oriented machine.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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I understand that, but how does your $200 headset connect? 3.5mm jack? I am sure a $10 "MS port" to 3.5mm jack will be available near launch. USB? Well, there are at least 2 USB ports in the back of the console, I bet i would fit into one of those just fine. Now, will it work? Who knows, but as with every other console in the history of consoles, the chances of an accessory working on multiple consoles is extremely rare (as in besides fightsticks and the GC controller, I have never seen it).

Yeah but you see that's what we want to know. So on day one we don't have to run out and buy a new headset to find out there is an adapter available everywhere for what we have.

Audio gear to me is an investment.

It is way more popular but who knows, Sony may have an ace up their sleeve this generation. The reason Xbox Live has always been better was because MS handles everything and lets developers use their API. With all the time that has gone by, I will be surprised if Sony hasn't fixed their system to be similar.

I have never been the one to complain about the price of Live because I simply don't pay. I have had Xbox Live since the day it launched and I used to play online a lot and was a gold member for 8 years according to XBL stats but I have not paid for the past few years. Too bad they require it for Netflix because the Xbox is a much better Netflix and youtube player than my Blu Ray player but it isn't worth $60 a year just for Netflix. I'd pay $15 a year though to access their video apps (Netflix, youtube and HBO Go).

Sony said they are building the largest and fastest network in the world dedicated to gaming. Is that an "ace up the sleeve"? If they can make good on that claim and prove it then maybe.

Netflix works fine through most devices. I haven't had an issue with anything from my PS3 to my WiiU (even watching on the gamepad just to see how it worked) and my tablet. The fact that Microsoft expects you to pay to use it when it's free on every device (as long as you are a Netflix subscriber) is just strange to me.

I know for me that I pay for live because all my friends and I game on Xbox and it is pretty much required to play online. We are all keeping an open mind for next gen though, so I may not be doing it again. If Sony gave me a party chat, I would be pretty happy with PSN.


http://www.cinemablend.com/games/PS4-Uses-Blu-ray-Supports-Cross-Game-Party-Chat-52977.html
Through PS4 , users are able to deepen their connections through co-op play or “cross-game chat”.
 
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SAWYER

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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These companies claim all kinds of bs, maybe it is true though. I just dont see them catching MS in online infrastructure but if they do that is great
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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If that number is true it's certainly fair to say that of that 119M a very small number are console buyers anyway. Most are either old or screw sheep out in the country.

http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/08/119-million-americans-lack-broadband-internet-fcc-reports/

Doesn't matter where they are or who. It does limit the potential market. That was my whole point. You can nitpick it all you want, limiting the market up front is not the best strategy and it's not just old people. I have family who live out in the sticks because they had to for work related reasons. They can't get broadband cause the telco is lazy to upgrade. Wireless is mostly useless.

These companies claim all kinds of bs, maybe it is true though. I just dont see them catching MS in online infrastructure but if they do that is great

Which if why I said if they can get it working. I don't doubt they are really working hard on it. It is afterall one of the things they were behind on.
 
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RedRooster

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Sep 14, 2000
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This really should've been a 3 hour presentation like Sony's, so many unanswered questions. And the live TV stuff is so outdated already.
Imagine if Sony or MS could've whipped out their cheque books and gotten Hulu to agree to making the FREE version(not Hulu+) available only on their devices?! Man, that would've been game over.
 
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Doppel

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http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/08/119-million-americans-lack-broadband-internet-fcc-reports/

Doesn't matter where they are or who. It does limit the potential market. That was my whole point. You can nitpick it all you want, limiting the market up front is not the best strategy and it's not just old people. I have family who live out in the sticks because they had to for work related reasons. They can't get broadband cause the telco is lazy to upgrade. Wireless is mostly useless.
I agree it definitely does limit it.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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People who are going to game are going to buy it, regardless of the extra features. These are just selling points for people on the fence about media related stuff really.

Consumer: I can buy a PS4 for games AND a Roku, or I can buy the Xbox One and skip the Roku all together saving $99.
or
Consumer: Well, I don't game that much, but my kids are outgrowing the Wii. I wouldn't mind being able to watch Netflix or Skype and get them a gaming system in one.

MS is really about the evolution of the market and are trying to posture themselves as a living room centerpiece, not just another device you have to hook into for a specific purpose.





I don't see why anyone would need a Roku with the PS4. It has the bigger apps on it right now, and I am sure will gain more. But to counter that:

Consumer: I can buy the Xbox, but will need to pay for Xbox Live gold every year to have access to all the features.

Exactly, why would you need a Roku with the PS4? You can pretty much guarantee that it'll have all the most popular streaming options on it just like the PS3 does right now.
 

Topweasel

Diamond Member
Oct 19, 2000
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He said Americans, not households.
Still that is a third of the US without broadband internet. I would question that total. Considering the spread and availability of Broadband internet it would have to be a choice by those not to have it. I doubt those people would get any of the three systems.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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amazon prime on ps3 >>>>>>>>> amazon prime on xbox360

the amazon prime on 360 is a joke.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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amazon prime on ps3 >>>>>>>>> amazon prime on xbox360

the amazon prime on 360 is a joke.

I actually, while on the phone with Amazon support, had the guy question if I knew about Amazon Prime's video selection because I had only visited it once on my account. That is how much I've used it.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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The game is tied to the gamer profile/account you use to activate it. Any console you log onto with that gamer profile will make the game playable. When you go home and take your gamer profile/account with you, the usage rights go with you. If your buddy wants to keep playing after you leave, and you do not plan to be on for awhile, you will likely be able to leave your account active on that console allowing him to keep playing. You can take the disc with you though, he will not need it (based on what I've read) Then when you need the account back to play at home, he can log you out of his console. I am making a few inferences based on the information available, but it seems reasonable.
So they might as well toss away the family Xbox live deal.

I think this is a really poor idea. I know what they are "trying" to do but just like their removal of the start button in Server 2012 they forgot to ask the real world how they use these systems. When I buy a game my wife and I both like she logs into her profile and plays it and gets all her own stuff, when I play I get mine.. so now my wife has to play on my profile or we pay 2x for the game? oops.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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So they might as well toss away the family Xbox live deal.

I think this is a really poor idea. I know what they are "trying" to do but just like their removal of the start button in Server 2012 they forgot to ask the real world how they use these systems. When I buy a game my wife and I both like she logs into her profile and plays it and gets all her own stuff, when I play I get mine.. so now my wife has to play on my profile or we pay 2x for the game? oops.

Not only do you not have to buy the game twice, you don't even need two Xbox Live accounts anymore.
 

Dumac

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Dec 31, 2005
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This is rather ignorant. There were quite a few quality exclusives for the 360.

Please enlighten me. I probably have about 5 games for my 360, and some of those I should have gotten on PC.

It could be anything. To Arcade games, to kinect software, to timed exclusives they paid some studio to withhold from PS4. Who knows. Though given the track record on the 360 I am not really hopeful on this point. Like you said they had a couple exclusives, most notably Halo (perhaps Forza if you're into that).

Yeah it could be anything, but I doubt it will be anything I'll really miss. Kinect and exclusive arcade games are pretty much trash, and I an wait for timed exclusives.

With multiplatform games going to be even more prevalent this gen, I don't see as much of a reason to get both the One and the PS4. I'll probably just get the latter, but I'm sure a lot will get the former.
 

futurefields

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Jun 2, 2012
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People who are going to game are going to buy it, regardless of the extra features. These are just selling points for people on the fence about media related stuff really.

Consumer: I can buy a PS4 for games AND a Roku, or I can buy the Xbox One and skip the Roku all together saving $99.
or
Consumer: Well, I don't game that much, but my kids are outgrowing the Wii. I wouldn't mind being able to watch Netflix or Skype and get them a gaming system in one.

MS is really about the evolution of the market and are trying to posture themselves as a living room centerpiece, not just another device you have to hook into for a specific purpose.


I don't want evolution of the market. I want the most powerful set top box for playing games they can put together for $500 bucks.

We get it. Microsoft wants to dominate the living room. We get that.

We don't want it.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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out of all the people ive spoken with at work about it, young and old only 1 person is excited about it at this point. everyone else thinks hes just in denial.
 

TheSlamma

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Sep 6, 2005
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Not only do you not have to buy the game twice, you don't even need two Xbox Live accounts anymore.
How does that work? I'm not going to give her the password to my live account.. that is tied to my skydrive and other Ms resources.
 

smackababy

Lifer
Oct 30, 2008
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They haven't announced exactly how it will work, but they have said the "family" pack is gone. All Xbox Live accounts can be tied to a family, each with their own profile and friends list.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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I don't want evolution of the market. I want the most powerful set top box for playing games they can put together for $500 bucks.

We get it. Microsoft wants to dominate the living room. We get that.

We don't want it.

People will buy them anyway. I've given up hoping that the market will put a stop to stuff like this. It won't.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
Dec 12, 2001
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People will buy them anyway. I've given up hoping that the market will put a stop to stuff like this. It won't.

True...

Still with Sony championing indie devs self publish and Microsoft offering no option it perhaps will cause a bit of a shift toward the PS4 for gamers. I mean if all the best underground games come out on PS4, everyone will want one.

Thinking on it, Nintendo is looking more and more like the ones who really care about the Video Game Industry (along with Sony in many ways). Nintendo lives off of gamers and nothing else that I know of. Sony's only profitable sector is Sony Computer Entertainment and the playstation brand. Microsoft has their hands in a lot of things and if the xbox just fell flat, they would be ok selling office and Windows. Suddenly Nintendo doesn't look so foolish by using this year to focus on software if they want to keep the industry going. It looks like Microsoft shifting focus away from games will be a boost for them among people who already have a Cable Box, a DVR, a Blu-Ray Player and don't care about watching TV on their game console. So I'm not going to claim that the gaming industry is taking a nose dive here.
 
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beginner99

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I've read that XBox one couples a game to a console and hence re-selling or buying from ebay is impossible. Is that true?

basically a no-go for me as I buying used games usually saves you at least 50% on price...
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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I've read that XBox one couples a game to a console and hence re-selling or buying from ebay is impossible. Is that true?

basically a no-go for me as I buying used games usually saves you at least 50% on price...

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