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smackababy

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The real fault lies with publishers and developers who take the money and then say BS to fans like "we are trying to make the best tomb raider experience".

Also in regard to destiny I believe it is in the contract from Activision and bungie that the game must release on Xbox. They can't exclusive the game at all.

I really don't understanding people faulting MS and Sony for getting exclusives. They don't force it on the publishers. They simply offer them some cash or resources. The publishers hold the keys. Quick money up front, or the "risk" of not making as much on the back end for the other console. In a timed exclusive, it works out for the publisher: up front cash and then sales later on when it releases on the other console, provided the game isn't a dud.
 

Fulle

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While I admitted that I didn't like the Destiny PS4 exclusive content...

Sony hasn't outright paid for timed exclusivity rights on an entire game release yet. Paying Bungie for a little extra perks isn't even close to the same thing as what MS has done, now with several games this gen.
 

cmdrdredd

Lifer
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I really don't understanding people faulting MS and Sony for getting exclusives. They don't force it on the publishers. They simply offer them some cash or resources. The publishers hold the keys. Quick money up front, or the "risk" of not making as much on the back end for the other console. In a timed exclusive, it works out for the publisher: up front cash and then sales later on when it releases on the other console, provided the game isn't a dud.

I don't, I fault Publishers and Developers who alienate their fans by taking the money, announcing exclusivity, then turning around and telling them how it's to make the game better. Don't lie to us. Just be honest and say "Hey we made a deal with company X and the game will release there on X date. Nothing is announced beyond that at this time." Boom done. Crisis averted.
 

smackababy

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While I admitted that I didn't like the Destiny PS4 exclusive content...

Sony hasn't outright paid for timed exclusivity rights on an entire game release yet. Paying Bungie for a little extra perks isn't even close to the same thing as what MS has done, now with several games this gen.

And, of course, Sony has never done that right? And, MS didn't have to pay Rockstar a ton of money to get GTA4 on the Xbox 360 at launch either? Nope. They are obviously the only guys doing bad things.

Every console maker has tried to do this. Nintendo, Sega, Sony, MS. They want games their competitors don't have. The problem with MS is they don't have many in house studios for first party development to prop up exclusives. If Sony and Nintendo didn't have these, they'd not have more exclusives outside of Japan.
 

cmdrdredd

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And, of course, Sony has never done that right? And, MS didn't have to pay Rockstar a ton of money to get GTA4 on the Xbox 360 at launch either? Nope. They are obviously the only guys doing bad things.

Every console maker has tried to do this. Nintendo, Sega, Sony, MS. They want games their competitors don't have. The problem with MS is they don't have many in house studios for first party development to prop up exclusives. If Sony and Nintendo didn't have these, they'd not have more exclusives outside of Japan.

Believe it or not, because of the Playstation name before Sony didn't have to bribe anyone. Developers flocked to Playstation which is why the PS1 has almost 8,000 titles released for it worldwide and PS2 has almost 4,000.
 

Topweasel

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@Topweasel

Your post was such a mess, I'm actually confused on what point you disagree with me on.
It happens from time to time. If my attention span wasn't bad enough, posting something like that at work, I end up typing it up over the course of hours. I think that one was ~5 minute periods over the course of 3 hours. So I am certain that their are 3 nearly separate trains of thoughts in there. Just looking at it I am not sure I want to read it to fix it. Main point being the butt hurt is usually fans of the competing brand and lots of them feign interest in a game they probably weren't going to purchase anyways. That's not going to hurt their (MS) image and even the rage is short lived (by using other examples). I wanted to add that I personally think the worst practices comes from true content exclusive to pre-orders (Alien:Isolation) and content exclusive and free to one console (Destiny). Even that only applies to be getting special treatment for their purchase due to console and not exclusive ability to purchase DLC (COD). Bungie telling Xbox owners that their $60 isn't as good as PS4 owners $60 really rubs me the wrong way.
 
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Topweasel

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Believe it or not, because of the Playstation name before Sony didn't have to bribe anyone. Developers flocked to Playstation which is why the PS1 has almost 8,000 titles released for it worldwide and PS2 has almost 4,000.
Only because they were the only kid on the block. There were so many trials and tribulations that developers had to go through to get games released on the Nintendo 64. That the Saturn was such a disappointment architecturally that it was pointless to develop for it.

The PS1 was practically the rebirth of the "IBM compatible" practically anyone could create any style of game for and it helped that it also incredibly powerful for a console at the time.
 

cmdrdredd

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Only because they were the only kid on the block. There were so many trials and tribulations that developers had to go through to get games released on the Nintendo 64. That the Saturn was such a disappointment architecturally that it was pointless to develop for it.

The PS1 was practically the rebirth of the "IBM compatible" practically anyone could create any style of game for and it helped that it also incredibly powerful for a console at the time.
Xbox was available in 2001. Sony wasn't sole player
 

purbeast0

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it's funny how the consensus is that the majority of people prefer the ps4 a lot more than the xbox 1, yet the xbox1 thread on here has nearly 1500 more posts than the ps4 thread because of all the nonsense and trash talking that goes on in this thread due to the ms hating and sony nut hugging.
 

SAWYER

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Most of that is just neckbeards being neckbeards on the internet. In real life, most of the people I know who have or used the One actually like it. People are just dumb, I personally like games so can appreciate them on whatever console
 

cmdrdredd

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it's funny how the consensus is that the majority of people prefer the ps4 a lot more than the xbox 1, yet the xbox1 thread on here has nearly 1500 more posts than the ps4 thread because of all the nonsense and trash talking that goes on in this thread due to the ms hating and sony nut hugging.

And people posting nonsense like you. I'm sure we all just needed you to point this out, every damn time...in every damn thread.

Simply bitching about everything that is in the news.

People will post what is on their minds and is relevant. Simply because it isn't all fanboy circle jerking isn't any reason to complain about who is posting, nor is it reason to bitch about the subject matter.
 
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purbeast0

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Most of that is just neckbeards being neckbeards on the internet. In real life, most of the people I know who have or used the One actually like it. People are just dumb, I personally like games so can appreciate them on whatever console

yeah it is, which is why it's so amusing and kinda sad in a way. the "us vs them" mindset on the internet has really started to get on my nerves in recent times. you can't really go into any conversation/thread/topic on the internet without the thread devolving into that mentality. it's sad really.

and i will continue to point it out, because even if it stops 1 person from being an idiot, it has succeeded.
 

smackababy

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it's funny how the consensus is that the majority of people prefer the ps4 a lot more than the xbox 1, yet the xbox1 thread on here has nearly 1500 more posts than the ps4 thread because of all the nonsense and trash talking that goes on in this thread due to the ms hating and sony nut hugging.

And, Diablo 3 is the worst game ever, yet there are few threads with as many posts and views on AT. =)
 

RampantAndroid

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You know, it's kinda sad. Just got an XB1, walked into this thread and - surprise - bickering! Just go enjoy your console and be happy with your choice. Buy the other one in a couple years. My choice was not "which one do I want" but "Which one do I want now."
 

Topweasel

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Xbox was available in 2001. Sony wasn't sole player

I was more referring to the 8k flocking in droves PS1 reference. But it applies to the PS2 as well. Sales numbers for any non-Sony 6th gen console is incredibly low comparison, probably the single largest lead a console has had with its competitors.
 

railven

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And people posting nonsense like you. I'm sure we all just needed you to point this out, every damn time...in every damn thread.

Simply bitching about everything that is in the news.

People will post what is on their minds and is relevant. Simply because it isn't all fanboy circle jerking isn't any reason to complain about who is posting, nor is it reason to bitch about the subject matter.

Amen. I always find the people that wear their bias on their sleeve most hilarious when they try to argue any sort of neutrality.

Only care about the PC version (had no intentions of buying a console version) so it does bum me out that even the PC version may get delayed/cancelled. So much for the MS "we're going to support PC gaming this year" nonsense.


Side note: debating buying a Sunset Overdrive bundle. Dat White Xbone!!!
 

cmdrdredd

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I have never been a fan of white consoles. Until the ps4 and xb1 versions. They don't look cheap like previous iterations like the ps2.
 

purbeast0

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not a fan of white electronics either, especially ones that typically sit in line of site when using them. at least a black console kind of is "hidden" in the peripheral, but the white one will stick out like a sore thumb. i don't have the line of site issue right now, but still i just think the white ones look dumb/cheap.

not a bad move for ms coming out with all of these $399 bundles that include a game. did they say the COD bundle is only $399 too? that one has a 1tb hdd too.
 

railven

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not a fan of white electronics either, especially ones that typically sit in line of site when using them. at least a black console kind of is "hidden" in the peripheral, but the white one will stick out like a sore thumb. i don't have the line of site issue right now, but still i just think the white ones look dumb/cheap.

not a bad move for ms coming out with all of these $399 bundles that include a game. did they say the COD bundle is only $399 too? that one has a 1tb hdd too.

Pretty sure the 1TB bundle is $499, but not sure if it also brings the Kinect with it.


I tend to "collect" consoles. Well, I use to, then I MSFT took a page from Nintendo and released a LE for each big title game with a new paint job (my reference to Nintendo is the Gum-Drop colored N64's of yesterday, guys remember them? Yeah, I got them all )

Last night looking at my media stand, I realized how much black there is. Beside the power LEDs I can't see any of my consoles. I'm hoping sliding in a white Xbone and White PS4 into the slots will make them pop. I like to see my hardware I also got a white Corsair case for my HtPC, just keep the motif going.
 

Lil Frier

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I personally hate the white console. Oh, and the Advanced Warfare bundle does NOT come with the Kinect, just the paint job, the game, and the 1-TB HDD. It IS $500 though.

I've never been one to collect things, but I might end up collecting controllers this generation. I already have the stock one and the Titanfall one/ That CoD one actually looks really cool, and I know I'll want the impending Halo 5 one. I might pick up the white if it's sold by itself, as it looks less terrible than the console itself. So, I might just end up getting them all...
 

bearxor

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I don't think any of the new bundles have Kinect in them.

I was kind of worried about the 500GB hard drive, especially being non-replaceable. But I've got Watch Dogs, Titanfall, Forza, Battlefield, Madden, Fifa, a smattering of smaller indie games and some apps and still have 200+GB left, so it's much less of a concern than I thought. ask me again in two years I suppose.
 

railven

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Wow, that's a terrible bundle than - the COD $500 one.

With external HDD support there is no reason to need an internal 1TB Drive.

$500 beans for game+console+Paintjob+1TB is stupid. Why I wasn't sure if it brought Kinect, I just assumed it did for the price.

SO Bundle is the better deal, hands down.
 

Anteaus

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I was kind of worried about the 500GB hard drive, especially being non-replaceable. But I've got Watch Dogs, Titanfall, Forza, Battlefield, Madden, Fifa, a smattering of smaller indie games and some apps and still have 200+GB left, so it's much less of a concern than I thought. ask me again in two years I suppose.

Internal hard drive storage is no longer a limitation. I especially like that you can move the external drive from one console to another, preserving the downloaded files. Very useful if you are switching consoles, or in less desirable times, moving the the files to a replacement console in the event of failure.

Anything that helps avoid redownloading huge content is a plus in my book.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/here-s-how-external-storage-works-on-xbox-one/1100-6420084/
 
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