The One and Only State of the Union Address Thread.

Hayabusa Rider

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Jaskalas

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After spending his first year failing to pass health care, I am eager to learn what is in store for us now. Will this be an echo of his previous address to Congress, or will he move on to other topics?

It makes sense to expect a rough rookie year at the job, having never governed anything before. Now we see him set the tone for things to come, we get to hear what he has learned this past year. Will the training wheels come off dear leader, or will his hubris sink him and his fellow Dems?

Obama said "big difference" between '10 and '94 is "me"

Good luck, you're going to need it.
 

mav451

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Lol holy gaffe batman. Anyway, I think I'm more interested in buzzword bingo tomorrow night than anything else.
 

spidey07

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Lol holy gaffe batman. Anyway, I think I'm more interested in buzzword bingo tomorrow night than anything else.

Jobs
Middle-Class
Wall Street
Executive
Bonus
Fight
Last decade (he's moved from his typical 'last 8 years' because that would include him)
"Since the great depression"

You'll be lit in the first 10 minutes. Notice there is nothing about healthcare as that will be really brief. I see him as campaigning rather than giving a true state of the union address.
 
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sciwizam

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let me add the following to the bingo:

unprecedented

main street (maybe out of fashion this year)
 

amdhunter

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Can't wait to see how cutting every expense, except for military expenses, will help keep jobs and the economy going.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Should be entertaining! Being the POTUS at this point in time must be like being the event planner on the Titanic.

"Pay no attention to the water coming over the bow, we have bingo at 7:30 followed by a pot luck dinner"
 

Red Dawn

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After spending his first year failing to pass health care, I am eager to learn what is in store for us now. Will this be an echo of his previous address to Congress, or will he move on to other topics?

It makes sense to expect a rough rookie year at the job, having never governed anything before. Now we see him set the tone for things to come, we get to hear what he has learned this past year. Will the training wheels come off dear leader, or will his hubris sink him and his fellow Dems?

Obama said "big difference" between '10 and '94 is "me"

Good luck, you're going to need it.
While a tough year he did better than the previous President in his first year.
 

boomerang

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I have no intention of watching and don't much care what he says. This is no reflection on him because I have never watched a SoTU address - ever. They're pretty meaningless IMO.
 

cubby1223

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Can't wait to see how cutting every expense, except for military expenses, will help keep jobs and the economy going.

Spending cuts = borrowing cuts

You still can't even prove that government spending is what creates jobs and keeps the economy going in the long run. Hell, how have the unemployment numbers fared since government spending exploded?
 

cubby1223

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As for the actual address, I don't believe a word Obama says, he is still in permanent campaign mode, thus I really don't see any value in listening to his "message".
 

Ozoned

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America is more respected now. You can view the leaked pre SOTU speech Democratic talking points tonight @ 9 on that evil cable network.
 

StageLeft

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I have no intention of watching and don't much care what he says. This is no reflection on him because I have never watched a SoTU address - ever. They're pretty meaningless IMO.
Absolutely. There is nothing he'll say of merit I could not already have read in a thousand papers all over the net. It's just a waste of time; I'll watch Hulu or something.
 

werepossum

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I have no intention of watching and don't much care what he says. This is no reflection on him because I have never watched a SoTU address - ever. They're pretty meaningless IMO.

The only thing worse is the "rebuttal" by the party out of power. I have no intention of watching his political speech and dislike almost everything he stands for, but he is our president; we don't need some self-appointed anti-president making his own version.

Wait, I change my vote. The fluff-headed "journalists" explaining afterward what he really said, that's worse than the SotU or the rebuttal.

Full disclosure: I did watch or listen to Reagan's SotU addresses. And would again, assuming zombie Reagan comes from the grave to save us all.
 

Regs

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. Most speeches are about talking about the issues of the issues. No one has the balls or the political clout to actually make the tough decisions.

Take NJ for instance - we're in debt and at the brink of insolvency. We know we have to tax people that will likely make people leave, including jobs and businesses. People have a problem with that but I don't. When reaching a equilibrium, things will have to shake and people will have to suffer. It's natural for people to want to wait for a catastrophic event to finally rationalize the cost of their own indecisions.


In short - we're fucked.
 

spidey07

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. Most speeches are about talking about the issues of the issues. No one has the balls or the political clout to actually make the tough decisions.

Take NJ for instance - we're in debt and at the brink of insolvency. We know we have to tax people that will likely make people leave, including jobs and businesses. People have a problem with that but I don't. When reaching a equilibrium, things will have to shake and people will have to suffer. It's natural for people to want to wait for a catastrophic event to finally rationalize the cost of their own indecisions.


In short - we're fucked.

Go luck up Bush's State of The Union addresses. That will show you leadership and making the tough decisions.

Before the attacks begin, just go watch them.
 

mav451

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Indeed - many conservatives called him a RINO in his second term, so I'm not quite sure that's the example you want to use.
 

ProfJohn

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. Most speeches are about talking about the issues of the issues. No one has the balls or the political clout to actually make the tough decisions.

Take NJ for instance - we're in debt and at the brink of insolvency. We know we have to tax people that will likely make people leave, including jobs and businesses. People have a problem with that but I don't. When reaching a equilibrium, things will have to shake and people will have to suffer. It's natural for people to want to wait for a catastrophic event to finally rationalize the cost of their own indecisions.


In short - we're fucked.
I hope you understand that one of the reasons why Detroit is such a disaster is that they followed the recipe you describe above.

A city/state realizes that it needs more money for its bloated budgets so it raises taxes.

Since the poor pay little taxes to begin with they are the least effected by the tax increase. The rich and upper middle class though are hit the hardest, especially with progressive tax rates.

If taxes are raised too high the rich etc start to look for a way out and since they have money and often the ability to relocate they do so taking their money with them.

Afterwards the city/state is left without the tax revenue that these folks bring and just as important left without all the intangible benefits that the wealthy bring to a city or area.
 

Regs

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Businesses don't set up shop in NJ because it's cheap; that's laughable at best John, they set up shop in NJ because they can make a better profit here than any other suffering state.

Detroit took a nose dive when they lost their comparative advantages in the auto and real estate markets. None of that had to do with taxing the rich, medium classes, or even cutting off services for the poor.

Until NJ loses is comparative advantages, will it suffer the severity of what now is Detroit. Everything is a balancing act, and just because Detroit is pinned to the ground right now on the proverbial see-saw does not mean they can't come back by regaining another advantage like finance, information systems, and so fourth.

Like a business, NJ has to find a way to cut costs and cut out the excess. A avg 2 bed room house in NJ costs over 300k dollars. The cost of living in NJ, NYC, and parts of PA is a larger issue inpart caused by many smaller issues.

Businesses don't want to pay average skill laborers enough so they can afford their 300 thousand dollar town homes (and 300 thousand is actually being modest. New construction housing goes for more like 400 and up) so they either stop hiring or lay off. So tax or no taxes, people are still going to leave.

I would continue my theory but my eyes are shutting and I will have to return later...
 

werepossum

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I hope you understand that one of the reasons why Detroit is such a disaster is that they followed the recipe you describe above.

A city/state realizes that it needs more money for its bloated budgets so it raises taxes.

Since the poor pay little taxes to begin with they are the least effected by the tax increase. The rich and upper middle class though are hit the hardest, especially with progressive tax rates.

If taxes are raised too high the rich etc start to look for a way out and since they have money and often the ability to relocate they do so taking their money with them.

Afterwards the city/state is left without the tax revenue that these folks bring and just as important left without all the intangible benefits that the wealthy bring to a city or area.

So true. Also, a lot of the rich relocate factories to other countries, figuring that since they are going to take a hit in productivity and quality while retraining workers they might as well go for the really cheap labor. Hell, the federal government even has programs to help cover relocation costs. Once the rich go though the middle class takes it hard, since they perforce must pay the revenue previously paid by the rich. Since no one wants to move into the area, housing prices spiral downward, so the typical middle class family's biggest asset becomes a liability. Also, a lot of this is caused by unions that get too greedy. Only the trade unions really ever deliver value in better training and thus quality.
 
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