The only one in the world...

[tommywishbone]

What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid Wed May 10, 10:47 PM ET Freaks:Text

IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, an Inuvialuit guide from Sachs Harbour, North West Territories, was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature after noticing its white fur was scattered with brown patches and that it had the long claws and humped back of a grizzly. Now a DNA test has confirmed that it is indeed a hybrid ? possibly the first documented in the wild.

"We've known it's possible, but actually most of us never thought it would happen," said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before ? Stirling could not speculate why ? and their offspring are fertile.

Breeding seasons for the two species overlap, though polar bear gets started slightly earlier.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Very odd indeed.

You have to wonder how a grizz ever even met a polar bear to begin with.

But other than that I see nothing unusual about the kill. No different than going on safari and hunting in Africa. I'm surprised you're more worried about the harvesting of a freak hybrid bear and less concerned with the *obvious* implications of global warming bringing two unrelated species of bear together.

 

[judasmachine]

with the arctic ice melting, and the polar bears future in jeopardy, maybe there is hope in the fact that the offspring are viable when they crossbreed with grizzlys. i'm not suggesting man get that involved, just that maybe some of the less ice dependant instincts of the grizzly could end up saving the polar bear. that is if they hook up a little more than they do.

edit: i was thinking this thread was going to be about "canned hunts" of endangered species. so i was going to post this tune by Megadeth....

Endangered species, caged in fright,
Shot in cold blood, no chance to fight.
The stage is set, now pay the price.
An ego boost, don?t think twice.
Technology, the battle?s unfair,
You pull the hammer without a care.
Squeeze the trigger that makes you man,
Pseudo-safari, the hunt is canned...
The hunt is canned.

/chorus/
All are gone, all but one.
No contest, nowhere to run.
No more left, only one.
This is it, this is the countdown to extinction.

Tell the truth, you wouldn?t dare.
The skin and trophy, oh so rare.
Silence speaks louder than words.
Ignore the guilt, and take your turn.
Liars anagram is ?lairs,?
Man you were never even there.
Killed a few feet from the cages,
Point blank, you?re so courageous...
So courageous.

/chorus/

One hour from now,
Another species of life form
Will disappear off the face of the planet
Forever...and the rate is accelerating.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

And as to this being the only one in the world per the OP's thread title...

This bear was taken in a fairly remote part of the world where there are thousands of people scattered over millions of square miles of land. One of two things are possible here.

1. The hunter in question is the luckiest SOB alive and really took the only known example of a Polar/Grizz encounter in the wild.
2. Polar/Grizz combos are more common than we know about. So common, in fact, that there are now enough of them so that they might accidentally wander in front of a guy's scope.

I'm inclined to believe #2.

 

[JEDIYoda]

So whats the big deal?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So whats the big deal?

The big deal is the Bear should at least have a gun and get some shots off at the idiot hunters that should be shot down.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So whats the big deal?

The big deal is the Bear should at least have a gun and get some shots off at the idiot hunters that should be shot down.

Evolution has cursed the bears... without opposable thumbs there is no way they could pull the trigger. Yay biology! *cracks another beer*

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So whats the big deal?

The big deal is the Bear should at least have a gun and get some shots off at the idiot hunters that should be shot down.

Evolution has cursed the bears... without opposable thumbs there is no way they could pull the trigger. Yay biology! *cracks another beer*

Yup and this gives us the right to wipe out as many as we wish. Hey it's not our fault mother nature gave us thumbs.

 

[aidanjm]

what kind of depraved individual hunts beautiful wild animals for sport?

 

[MadRat]

They should be out hunting the ugly duckling hybrid polar-grizzly bears instead.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So whats the big deal?

The big deal is the Bear should at least have a gun and get some shots off at the idiot hunters that should be shot down.

Evolution has cursed the bears... without opposable thumbs there is no way they could pull the trigger. Yay biology! *cracks another beer*

:laugh:

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Very odd indeed.

You have to wonder how a grizz ever even met a polar bear to begin with.

But other than that I see nothing unusual about the kill. No different than going on safari and hunting in Africa. I'm surprised you're more worried about the harvesting of a freak hybrid bear and less concerned with the *obvious* implications of global warming bringing two unrelated species of bear together.

Obviously internet dating.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
what kind of depraved individual hunts beautiful wild animals for sport?

An animal murderer.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: aidanjm
what kind of depraved individual hunts beautiful wild animals for sport?

An animal murderer.

Its called hunting, not murder, hippie.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: aidanjm
what kind of depraved individual hunts beautiful wild animals for sport?

An animal murderer.

Can I get some more animal murderers down here in IL?

We have quite the deer problem these days.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid Wed May 10, 10:47 PM ET Freaks:Text

IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, an Inuvialuit guide from Sachs Harbour, North West Territories, was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature after noticing its white fur was scattered with brown patches and that it had the long claws and humped back of a grizzly. Now a DNA test has confirmed that it is indeed a hybrid ? possibly the first documented in the wild.

"We've known it's possible, but actually most of us never thought it would happen," said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before ? Stirling could not speculate why ? and their offspring are fertile.

Breeding seasons for the two species overlap, though polar bear gets started slightly earlier.

So would this just be proof that a polar bear is just a type of grizzly bear, with the predominant difference being fur color? Just like how difference races of people have different skin color and physical attributes, why would it be a question that two bears can mate and not two people?

 

[daveymark]

yet another reason to ban all guns. just think of how many hybrids that would be alive today were guns outlawed

somehow, this will be linked to Bush

 

[TravisT]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid Wed May 10, 10:47 PM ET Freaks:Text

IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, an Inuvialuit guide from Sachs Harbour, North West Territories, was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature after noticing its white fur was scattered with brown patches and that it had the long claws and humped back of a grizzly. Now a DNA test has confirmed that it is indeed a hybrid ? possibly the first documented in the wild.

"We've known it's possible, but actually most of us never thought it would happen," said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before ? Stirling could not speculate why ? and their offspring are fertile.

Breeding seasons for the two species overlap, though polar bear gets started slightly earlier.

So would this just be proof that a polar bear is just a type of grizzly bear, with the predominant difference being fur color? Just like how difference races of people have different skin color and physical attributes, why would it be a question that two bears can mate and not two people?

So is the polar bear keeping the grizzly bear down? That is the real concern here.

 

[Passions]

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid Wed May 10, 10:47 PM ET Freaks:Text

IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, an Inuvialuit guide from Sachs Harbour, North West Territories, was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature after noticing its white fur was scattered with brown patches and that it had the long claws and humped back of a grizzly. Now a DNA test has confirmed that it is indeed a hybrid ? possibly the first documented in the wild.

"We've known it's possible, but actually most of us never thought it would happen," said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before ? Stirling could not speculate why ? and their offspring are fertile.

Breeding seasons for the two species overlap, though polar bear gets started slightly earlier.

Are you an American and why do you hate your country so much?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Passions

Originally posted by: tommywishbone
What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

DNA Tests Confirm Bear Was a Hybrid Wed May 10, 10:47 PM ET Freaks:Text

IQALUIT, Nunavut - Northern hunters, scientists and people with vivid imaginations have discussed the possibility for years.

But Roger Kuptana, an Inuvialuit guide from Sachs Harbour, North West Territories, was the first to suspect it had actually happened when he proposed that a strange-looking bear shot last month by an American sports hunter might be half polar bear, half grizzly.

Territorial officials seized the creature after noticing its white fur was scattered with brown patches and that it had the long claws and humped back of a grizzly. Now a DNA test has confirmed that it is indeed a hybrid ? possibly the first documented in the wild.

"We've known it's possible, but actually most of us never thought it would happen," said Ian Stirling, a polar bear biologist with the Canadian Wildlife Service in Edmonton.

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before ? Stirling could not speculate why ? and their offspring are fertile.

Breeding seasons for the two species overlap, though polar bear gets started slightly earlier.

Are you an American and why do you hate your country so much?

Are you American and why do you hate diverse opinions, freedom of speach, and rights of other's so much?

 

[xolademoness]

Because he's a money-worshipping "Christian" Republican, duh.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

One more godless killing machine off the planet, Colbert would be proud

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
what kind of depraved individual hunts beautiful wild animals for sport?

You don't eat meat?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
So whats the big deal?

OhnoeZ!

 

[Fern]

OK, I thought this was going to about some endangered (or previously thought extinct) animal.

As for it being the only one:

Polar bears and grizzlies have been successfully paired in zoos before

Plus, if there is one in the wild, there are likely others too. Perhaps even a sibling.

This topic seems over-hyped. It isn't the first, it isn't the only one, no biologist seems surprised etc.

What is wrong with people? Why would you travel 5,000 miles to kill? Madness, courtesy of the USA.

Puhleez :disgust: