The People Have Spoken

[Red Squirrel]

Ohh for fucks sakes


It has been documented that all immigrants commit less crime than others

It has been discussed many times

So prove it

Why are baseless claims being thrown around here

Where did I say it was the immigrants doing all the crime?

 

[Fenixgoon]

We have very similar issues as the US. Mass immigration, cost of living, drug epidemic, crime epidemic, housing shortage etc. And Poilievre is similar to Trump, in that he wants to fix those things. So it's nice to see that people are finally voting for common sense, instead of feelings.

Whether or not Trump fixes those things is another story but at least by him winning, it shows it's what the people want. Hopefully he actually does do some good though.

Why do you think conservative policies will address these issues?

 

[outriding]

Where did I say it was the immigrants doing all the crime?

Why did you put mass immigration and crime epidemic in the same sentence

 

[Red Squirrel]

Why do you think conservative policies will address these issues?

It's literally part of their platform and repeated over and over by them. The liberals don't even acknowledge that it's a problem and try to gas light us into thinking everything is ok so you know damn well they don't even plan to address it. They'll only make it worse.

Why did you put mass immigration and crime epidemic in the same sentence

I was listing various problems that we face, does not mean they are 100% related to each other.

 

[Fenixgoon]

It's literally part of their platform and repeated over and over by them. The liberals don't even acknowledge that it's a problem and try to gas light us into thinking everything is ok so you know damn well they don't even plan to address it. They'll only make it worse.



I was listing various problems that we face, does not mean they are 100% related to each other.

saying "we will solve drug usage" is nice. much like "we will solve immigration". or "we'll solve inflation" or "we'll make prices drop"

i'm asking, what will they actually do, and what evidence is there that it will actually work? what is the actual policy practice that will be enacted? is it more punishing sentences on drug possession? will deporting tens of millions of people actually do anything with respect to immigration? what actions or policies will actually make prices drop? (because deporting people is actually going to make them rise)

 

[ivwshane]

They don’t acknowledge the problem? You mean like passing bills that address the problem only to have Trump come in and squash it? Lol ok


We can’t fix stupid, people.

 

[sdifox]

Sad thing is Nutty Squirrel used to be left leaning NDP voter. I guess he went hard right once he became a homeowner.

 

[ivwshane]

Sad thing is Nutty Squirrel used to be left leaning NDP voter. I guess he went hard right once he became a homeowner.

I’m guessing he got on social media. Being a home owner with lots of land usually makes one appreciate the environment and the impact one has on it and to preserve it. His talking points are repeats of social media misinformation and gaslighting. He doesn’t realize the bubble he’s in and probably never will as information that counters one’s beliefs is typically dismissed and people double down on their beliefs in spite of the facts.

 

[brycejones]

Sad thing is Nutty Squirrel used to be left leaning NDP voter. I guess he went hard right once he became a homeowner.

Did he freak out before Covid?

 

[sdifox]

Did he freak out before Covid?

Yeah long before COVID.

 

[nakedfrog]

I’m guessing he got on social media. Being a home owner with lots of land usually makes one appreciate the environment and the impact one has on it and to preserve it. His talking points are repeats of social media misinformation and gaslighting. He doesn’t realize the bubble he’s in and probably never will as information that counters one’s beliefs is typically dismissed and people double down on their beliefs in spite of the facts.

He's only gotten the land within the last few years, before that he just had his house. He was going on and on about getting his land for years.

 

[JujuFish]

Can you provide a single cogent, objective, truthful argument for why Trump is the right choice?

@Red Squirrel
Still waiting.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

I wonder what happens faster, burning something or letting it decay.

Also, burning things leads to a direct release of CO2 into the air (along with particle emissions), whereas decay arguably is recycling things back into the local environment.

Burning vs decay is mostly irrelevant when it comes to co2. Cutting down a tree that has 400 years of growth and carbon capture is very relevant. Turning that tree into ash that's breathed in by living organisms is also very relevant.

We didn't phase out wood stoves in cities because they made co2, after all.

 

[Brainonska511]

Burning vs decay is mostly irrelevant when it comes to co2. Cutting down a tree that has 400 years of growth and carbon capture is very relevant. Turning that tree into ash that's breathed in by living organisms is also very relevant.

We didn't phase out wood stoves in cities because they made co2, after all.

Yes, the CO2 burning off isn't the only issue with burning wood. Just merely pointing out the ridiculous idea that burning a piece of wood is largely equivalent to letting a piece rot on the forest floor.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Yes, the CO2 burning off isn't the only issue with burning wood. Just merely pointing out the ridiculous idea that burning a piece of wood is largely equivalent to letting a piece rot on the forest floor.

From a co2 perspective it largely is. The stuff that eats the wood doesn't really carbon capture much, it generally gets off-gassed right back in the atmosphere.

You gotta bury that shit in the ground again where it can't rot.

 

[Brainonska511]

From a co2 perspective it largely is. The stuff that eats the wood doesn't really carbon capture much, it generally gets off-gassed right back in the atmosphere.

You gotta bury that shit in the ground again where it can't rot.

If you look at it in a vacuum, sure. But something rotting in the woods is feeding other micro-organisms as part of a wider ecosystem (that could easily be growing more plants). Burning a piece of wood is just burning a piece of wood.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

If you look at it in a vacuum, sure. But something rotting in the woods is feeding other micro-organisms as part of a wider ecosystem (that could easily be growing more plants). Burning a piece of wood is just burning a piece of wood.

Right... but that's not talking about 'from a co2 perspective'... which is why I added the caveat of 'from a co2 perspective'.

Kinda feel like we're following each other in a circle.

Rotting wood is better than burning wood.

Neither helps co2 or particularly hurts it, unless you're clearcutting old growth forests for it.

High-temp biofuel burners are actually excellent heat sources environmentally, presuming it's from all young growth stuff and the land is properly maintained.

 

[outriding]

It's literally part of their platform and repeated over and over by them. The liberals don't even acknowledge that it's a problem and try to gas light us into thinking everything is ok so you know damn well they don't even plan to address it. They'll only make it worse.



I was listing various problems that we face, does not mean they are 100% related to each other.

Ohhh I can play this game

Mass immigration, pot holes, lead water pipes

 

[balloonshark]

You will have a fascist dictator right next door. What could go wrong? You might want to take a look in Ukraine, Palestine, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. Nice oil, coal, iron, fresh water, timber, etc you have there Canada. It would be a shame if nobody was exploiting all those resources.

 

[MrSquished]

He's only gotten the land within the last few years, before that he just had his house. He was going on and on about getting his land for years.

Yeah it was supposed to be a compound by now. Fully self-sufficient food and everything.

I mean this whole thing is hilarious. What's even more fucking hilarious is that he got a wooded piece of land. He thought he was going to take the trees down himself but of course it took him 2 years to figure out he had no idea what he was doing.

But then when he finally hires the pros to take down some trees, he basically clear cuts the whole fucking lot lol

Imagine buying a place to get off the grid and then not having any fucking trees on it to hang out under and just make it feel like nature on your actual lot amongst your buildings.

I mean so fucking funny I still say I want this shit put on a YouTube stream and I'd fucking give that fucking Canadian Nazi my money to watch his project fucking fail miserably at every step. Even though with the trees all clear cut by now we've lost the opportunity to see one fall on him as he tried to cut it. But there's still much joy to be had with his failures, I promise.

 

[VashHT]

It's literally part of their platform and repeated over and over by them. The liberals don't even acknowledge that it's a problem and try to gas light us into thinking everything is ok so you know damn well they don't even plan to address it. They'll only make it worse.

Besides it being a straight up lie that liberals don't care, republicans ran on this 2 years ago and when they took the house they did absolutely nothing except sham investigations where they teased bombshell after bombshell that turned out to be absolutely nothing. Besides that, trump sunk a bipartisan immigration bill that would've helped, so don't pretend they care about fixing that either.

EDIT: To add, I find it funny OP is going on and on about how taxes are punishment, yet trump promises tariffs on everything which will punish businesses and normal people but he thinks trump will be great for this country.

 

[Brainonska511]

Besides it being a straight up lie that liberals don't care, republicans ran on this 2 years ago and when they took the house they did absolutely nothing except sham investigations where they teased bombshell after bombshell that turned out to be absolutely nothing. Besides that, trump sunk a bipartisan immigration bill that would've helped, so don't pretend they care about fixing that either.

Also some other times in the last 20 years:

1) Under Bush, there was a push from Bush to address immigration issues
2) Under Obama, where the Republicans sank a deal

Republicans largely don't give 2 shits about fixing immigration issues, and they largely seem happy to have some permanent underclass that can't complain, lest the risk deportation while also using that group as a way to rustle up idiot voters.

 

[MrSquished]

The single largest things the Dems can be blamed for in the last four years is letting Biden steamroll the primary due to his ego. The guy who said he would be a bridge to all the young leaders behind him. But not enough of the right people could stand up to that man's ego.

As far as this campaign it had to be Kamala after Biden dropped out - again his fault we were ever in this situation. Considering the absolute shit show Biden's ego left us with - the aftermath could not have gone better to switch to Kamala. And she was quite a good candidate at the end of the day with literally just being thrown into it - but obviously not nearly enough to overcome the insane wall she had to climb, in general and as a woman of color. And as far as most of the rest of the Democrat's problems, it's years of the massive right wing mediasphere, and mainstream media also just not reporting honestly on all the shit Republicans were doing, straight up to now with Trump and sanewashing him. There are other issues but this is the best - when the people are voting for your policy platforms with majorities from minimum wage to weed legalization and abortion rights, but not for you - it's because the party has been separated from its own accomplishments due to a totally fake parallel dimension created by those who create the news narrative.

 

[UNCjigga]

Red, I’m sorry, but a country the size of Canada with only 40 million people does NOT have an immigration problem. Y’all definitely have too much red tape when it comes to building new housing and expanding communities though—that’s just NIMBYism run amok.

And I’m saying this as someone who firmly believes there are way too many Chinese immigrants in Vancouver laundering money from God knows what back home.
(Edit: before anyone calls me a racist, read this shit—https://www.occrp.org/en/investigat...d-money-from-china-into-vancouver-real-estate)

 

[MrSquished]

Red, I’m sorry, but a country the size of Canada with only 40 million people does NOT have an immigration problem. Y’all definitely have too much red tape when it comes to building new housing and expanding communities though—that’s just NIMBYism run amok.

And I’m saying this as someone who firmly believes there are way too many Chinese immigrants in Vancouver laundering money from God knows what back home.
(Edit: before anyone calls me a racist, read this shit—https://www.occrp.org/en/investigat...d-money-from-china-into-vancouver-real-estate)

Our local Canadian Nazi has never seen a fact he couldn't walk away from.