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Viper1j

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Federal and state income tax? SSI? Are we going ignore those two so you can feel like you've made some brilliant point?
I can't imagine why you want a segment of the population not paying the bulk of taxes owed, while also knowing that what they're doing is a crime. As it turns out, the majority of voters don't want that, one of several reasons why the democrats took a beating in the election. So you go ahead and pretend you're clever while the adults fix the immigration problem.
So when are you leaving?🤔

 

K1052

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Wages are down relative to productivity gains but that's due to hoarding at the top. Hoarding at the top is the intended outcome of Reaganomics.

To be clear this is exactly who Trump's going to give a giant tax cut to.
 
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uclaLabrat

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From what I read in order to pay into SS and work in the US you must meet the requirements below. An Undocumented Illegal Alien would not have the proper documentation to obtain a SS Number or have a work authorization as an UNDocumented Alien.


What do I need to bring to the Social Security office?
You need to prove your identity and work-authorized immigration status.
To prove your identity and work-authorized immigration status, show us your current U.S. immigration documents and your unexpired foreign passport.

Acceptable immigration documents include your:
• Form I-551 (Lawful Permanent Resident Card, Machine-Readable Immigrant Visa);
• Admission stamp showing a class of admission permitting work;
• Form I-94 (Arrival/Departure Record); or • Form I-766 (Employment Authorization Document/EAD).



If they had all the requirements they wouldn't be undocumented would they?

Dude they file with fake SSNs did you seriously not know that? 🤣

Do they get that money back? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.
 

Viper1j

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I am for building the wall. Democrats should support it. If it doesn't work as well as it has been touted by Republicans, oh well, at least there's a wall or whatever.

Democrats should just require that the wall suits multiple purposes. Throw some solar panels and batteries on it, wire it up to the grid, use it as an "aqueduct" for the grid.

I'm not seeing a downside to supporting it, and any money earmarked for the wall isn't earmarked for hunting down political opponents and women attempting to receive medical care.
Really?

 

ivwshane

Lifer
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What kind of idiot talks about a guy he hired having a fake SS number and then in the saved breath saying illegals don’t pay into SS? Anyone want to give the guy a sharpe to help connect the dots?
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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I'm all for proper vetted Legal Immigration.
This is not what we have had for the last 4 years. Not even close.

And the four years before that too, going farther back than Reagan and his amnesty deal that involved ~ 3 million undocumented immigrants. So long as Big Agra and those other large businesses that heavily rely on undocumented immigrants to provide dirt cheap labor, they'll have their say with Trump as far as Trump's promise to absolutely stopping the flow of undocumented immigrants go, of which is a really difficult thing to do to the point where when Trump says it, it's not like he actually means it (Mexico paying for his wall?) or if he can actually make it happen.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Now that Trump no longer has to worry about being incarcerated or having to be reelected, I wonder if he's going to break his record as to how many times he's going to be taking his golf holidays or how much more weight he's going to gain from being the boss of everybody.

Well, come to think of it, he still does have to worry about people wanting to prematurely end his term in office. I mean, it's something that every dictator the world over constantly worries about, don't they though?

And I'd like to mark the day when our terrible nation wrecking economy suddenly becomes the world's best (as it already is) after Donald steps up and waves his magic wand over the nation. No more immigration problem to worry about too even if the numbers keep rising, no more "it's the economy stupid" slogans being bandied about because hey, all Trump has to do is say it ain't so, no more saber rattling over how expensive groceries are even if they're still rising and keep on rising throughout Trump's term in office.

And I laugh even now at the thought of how Trump's minions aren't going to say single word about the rising cost of goods when the tariff war he's going to kick off starts eating the cash out of their wallets right before their eyes.

See, every bad thing that happens the day after Trump takes over will be crushed into vapor by Trump, just like how the Covid Pandemic was by his word alone, no big deal, never mind the thousands of unnecessary deaths that were directly attributable to his chaotic mishandling of that disaster.

The fairy tale world is now the real world for everyone because the fairy tale people have taken over and made it so. Follow along with them as they worship Trump and his very good friend Putin. Join in the rapture they feel as they luxuriate in their ignorance and Trump's inability to properly represent us at any and all summits and gatherings of our alliances. As before, he will be the Magilla in the room, thinking he's the smartest guy there while his counterparts are snickering and smirking at his total lack of protocol and decorum. This because he thinks everyone should bow down to him and behave themselves in a manner that makes him comfortable with his ineptitude and lack of social skills at that level of society.

I am so ashamed of and for Trump. May he not wreck things so bad that the next Democrat who takes over won't be able to fix things in time before the next economy wrecking Republican takes over again.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Dude they file with fake SSNs did you seriously not know that? 🤣

Do they get that money back? I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count.

Sure I know that they pay into their illegal SSN Accounts and then never file. I also know it's illegal, just like them being here is illegal. Two wrongs don't make it right.

So do you think it's fine that they do this because it fattens up the SS purse?
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Sure I know that they pay into their illegal SSN Accounts and then never file. I also know it's illegal, just like them being here is illegal. Two wrongs don't make it right.

So do you think it's fine that they do this because it fattens up the SS purse?

We simply debunked your right wing talking point. You’d think having all the correct information at hand would be a thing people want if they also wanted good government policy. Are you interested in good policy?
 

Drach

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Sure I know that they pay into their illegal SSN Accounts and then never file. I also know it's illegal, just like them being here is illegal. Two wrongs don't make it right.

So do you think it's fine that they do this because it fattens up the SS purse?
There are reasons they still make social "security " cards on paper that an elementary child could reproduce.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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That's exactly what Texas is doing and it has caused pregnant women's mortality rate to spike up more than 50%.

I had to dig for this post by RS

Post in thread 'The People Have Spoken'
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/the-people-have-spoken.2623299/post-41333788



@Red Squirrel - do you bother to use the internet to lookup information? Or do you simply write off information as invalid because of the evil MSM.

I think we’re all skeptical of sources in our own ways, this information isn’t partisan in nature…it’s just unlikely you’ll know about it if the RWNJ bubble is your infosphere
 

Red Squirrel

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This sounds more like a state issue and has nothing to do with Trump. Seems to me Texas needs to at least modify the law to allow for edge case exceptions and that is something I would definitely support.
 

Viper1j

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This sounds more like a state issue and has nothing to do with Trump. Seems to me Texas needs to at least modify the law to allow for edge case exceptions and that is something I would definitely support.
Whatever happened to everybody just minding their own fucking business? When did half this country turn into Gladys Kravitz from Bewitched?

"Pro-lifers" would shit their pants, if they caught someone peeking at their wife in the shower, Yet they have lives so empty, they can only validate their existence by interfering in the lives of strangers.

 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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This sounds more like a state issue and has nothing to do with Trump. Seems to me Texas needs to at least modify the law to allow for edge case exceptions and that is something I would definitely support.

It’s not isolated to Texas, this is what I meant when asking if you bother to even look this stuff up. Maybe you can figure out why restricting medical access is an abysmal, inhumane, and cruel policy?

And these are not Dem policies, so tell us why these policies are good for America.


You have to ask yourself at some point: do we want people who aren’t medical professionals making decisions that affect life and death for women in order score political points? Or would we prefer trained professionals to engage in the role they’ve been training for over a decade to hold?

So far the answer is clear: many people prefer to put their emotions in front of medical science. Which one are you?

Edit: as far as Trump not being involved, you must not be aware of the times he’s taken credit for being a critical part of overturning Roe

 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Whatever happened to everybody just minding their own fucking business? When did half this country turn into Gladys Kravitz from Bewitched?

"Pro-lifers" would shit their pants, if they caught someone peeking at their wife in the shower, Yet they have lives so empty, they can only validate their existence by interfering in the lives of strangers.

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