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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I'm well aware of fake SSN's, I had an employee use one. I was notified about it by the EDD.

But somehow unaware of the millions that are still doing it and paying bigly into systems that will never benefit them. Huh, whodathunkit
 

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
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Sure I know that they pay into their illegal SSN Accounts and then never file. I also know it's illegal, just like them being here is illegal. Two wrongs don't make it right.

So do you think it's fine that they do this because it fattens up the SS purse?

Obviously it would be preferable to legalize this arrangement. But that is not what's on offer. That said social security recipients are totally not going to give a fuck where the money comes from when insolvency arrives years earlier and benefits are more drastically cut.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Sure I know that they pay into their illegal SSN Accounts and then never file. I also know it's illegal, just like them being here is illegal. Two wrongs don't make it right.

So do you think it's fine that they do this because it fattens up the SS purse?
How much of your SS checks have you sent back to the govt because it came from illegals?
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Really? That's what you're going with?
Just curious, he took such a strong stance on how illegals shouldn't be contributing to SS, I'm just curious how far his moral stance travels. If he's willing to sacrifice for it, I'd respect him more.
 

nOOky

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Aug 17, 2004
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The people have spoken because they think they voted for closing the border and lower gas/food prices and no more abortions. My wife's sister voted for Trump because of gas prices and food prices, she was posting about it on Facebook. She is normally a voter for Democrats. She is not friends with my wife on FB, but she forgot I am on there.

The thing is she is always asking us for money. She wanted money to help pay to fix her teeth and for a trip to London to see her daughter graduate. My wife finally grew a set and said nope, ask Trump for the money, or wait until he is in office and your personal wealth skyrockets. I am glad we can screw a Trump voter even if it's in such a small way. And I'm tired of funding her sister's poor decisions so maybe she will get herself back on track under Trump. But I doubt it.
 

Viper1j

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On this Veterans Day, along with the free breakfast, Denny's is handing out flag lapel pins.

Because of the election, I'm wearing mine upside down.

MAGAt heads in the diner exploding in 5,4,3,2...
 
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K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Oh Tom Homan is going to be running the deportation? His big brain child was the family separation policy last time around. Whatever is going to happen will be terrible on a scale that Americans refuse to imagine occurring.
 

gothuevos

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Jul 28, 2010
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Oh Tom Homan is going to be running the deportation? His big brain child was the family separation policy last time around. Whatever is going to happen will be terrible on a scale that Americans refuse to imagine occurring.

Why do you keep assuming Americans will hate it? They voted for it. Maybe it's who we are.

Also did we ever get to the bottom of all those forced hysterectomies that happened on detained migrants? Did anyone even care?
 

K1052

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Why do you keep assuming Americans will hate it? They voted for it. Maybe it's who we are.

Also did we ever get to the bottom of all those forced hysterectomies that happened on detained migrants? Did anyone even care?

Because in interview after interview I read from regular voters and even the migrants themselves they simply refuse to believe he is serious.
 

gothuevos

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Because in interview after interview I read from regular voters and even the migrants themselves they simply refuse to believe he is serious.
Oh that part, sure. People lack imagination.

But when it happens, nobody will care. Or rather, the GOP will not suffer any consequences.
 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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Oh that part, sure. People lack imagination.

But when it happens, nobody will care. Or rather, the GOP will not suffer any consequences.

If we assume full implementation people are going definitely going to care when the impacts hit home.

People who flipped Trump this year because "he's a good businessman" or "he's gonna make us rich again like him" or whatever are not ideologically anchored like hardcore partisans.
 

Viper1j

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Why do you keep assuming Americans will hate it? They voted for it. Maybe it's who we are.

Also did we ever get to the bottom of all those forced hysterectomies that happened on detained migrants? Did anyone even care?
"I didn't vote for that! That's not what I meant when I said...."

It will be the most used phrase for the next 4 years.
 

VashHT

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"I didn't vote for that! That's not what I meant when I said...."

It will be the most used phrase for the next 4 years.
"They're not hurting the right people!", that one still gets me, I bet that person voted for trump again too.

I don't think I've seen any reasons in this thread why deporting illegal immigrants is going to help this country other than a false sense of moral superiority that they didn't come here the right way. This is coming from people whose ancestors most likely had to wait a few hours to get into the country (like mine did) so why should it be so much harder now where we make people spend thousands of dollars and like 7 years plus waiting to get in.
 
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Viper1j

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Tom Homan looks like Uncle Fester Addams.

He's stupid enough to think he can deport American citizens. Trump and his crew will finally wake up when they've collapsed the foster system in every state.
 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
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Tom Homan looks like Uncle Fester Addams.

He's stupid enough to think he can deport American citizens. Trump and his crew will finally wake up when they've collapsed the foster system in every state.
That's a feature not a bug
 

Viper1j

Diamond Member
Jul 31, 2018
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Oh Tom Homan is going to be running the deportation? His big brain child was the family separation policy last time around. Whatever is going to happen will be terrible on a scale that Americans refuse to imagine occurring.

When our country is liberated by the Allies, and it's shown that we had our very own Auschwitz, they won't be able to turn their heads away.

We're also getting PeeWee German.

 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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If what you say is true, why did Trump stop the bipartisan Senate Republican authored Border Control Bill from being enacted? That bill would have accomplished what even you would have wanted. So you see, it's not so much what the people of the nation wanted, it's what Trump wants and you know very well what that was and is. He's going to keep that issue alive 'til the end of time if it suits his ego.
it's fascinating how many times this has to be pointed out, and how pointing out this fact has no impact.
 

VashHT

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it's fascinating how many times this has to be pointed out, and how pointing out this fact has no impact.
The only defense I've ever heard for that is that the bill was full of pork and didn't do anything for the border. It's the go to attack for any bill Democrats pass or want to pass that actually helps things.

EDIT: I heard the same shit said about the infrastructure bill but that didn't stop republican politicians from going to their home states and bragging about getting money for them.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
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On this Veterans Day, along with the free breakfast, Denny's is handing out flag lapel pins.

Because of the election, I'm wearing mine upside down.

MAGAt heads in the diner exploding in 5,4,3,2...
Hope you're not in an area where said MAGAts would harass or accost you, or worse.


Voters tired of “elites” voted for a billionaire and a Yale grad supported by billionaires.

The finding out is going to be fucking hilarious.
I'd be fine with hilarious, but there are some horrific possible outcomes as well.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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The only defense I've ever heard for that is that the bill was full of pork and didn't do anything for the border. It's the go to attack for any bill Democrats pass or want to pass that actually helps things.

EDIT: I heard the same shit said about the infrastructure bill but that didn't stop republican politicians from going to their home states and bragging about getting money for them.
Yeah, when I looked into it, the justification seemed to be including money for Ukraine IIRC.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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You people sure like to twist words. Fixed it to make it simpler for you.
Your rural lifestyle is a waste of government resources. Literally.

Imagine being a net negative on everyone's tax dollars and then complaining that the government wastes money.

These people are indeed as shitty as I have always said. Go cut some trees.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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it's fascinating how many times this has to be pointed out, and how pointing out this fact has no impact.

That's the kind of stuff that causes wives and pets to be beaten, assplosions, migraines, rash, hives and a nasty case of shingles whenever any Trumptard gets anywhere near the truth and facts about Trump and his posse of poseurs. They all avoid any factual bad thing about Trump because they know it will cause themselves pain and confusion to have to deal with the realities of life like that.

They'd rather feel the rush of adrenalin through their arteries whenever Trump rears his ugly head and delivers his fallacious fairy tales and hissy fits about the commie liberals, how enraged he is that his previous election got stolen from him, how the brown invasion down south is contaminating the blood of the nation. Real horrific bullshit that captivates the minds and hearts of really really stupid stubborn people weaponizing their ability to vote.

I mean, what else can I say about the confounding mystery of why people went ahead and elected a moronic convicted felon and sex offender for the highest office of the land? They'll never give any of us the real reasons why they did it because it would literally make them look and feel bad about themselves...well, if they have any morals leftover from the years and more years of defending Trump's incompetence, his being a godless racist, adulterer and convicted felon. Just look at how the so-called Christian evangelicals must feel supporting and reconciling their decision to pin their hopes of a resurgence, a religious renaissance of sorts on a morally and ethically bankrupt heathen in the name of God AND Trump?

Defending the indefensible is a very shameful humiliating experience so I can see why a lot of Trump's fanatics wanted to lash back at their critics after all these years and decided to get even in the worst possible way they could think of.
 
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