The People Have Spoken

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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Getting part of our land ready for big ass garden right now. Already started messing with canning this year.
I had a really big canning summer. Must be something like 40 jars of tomato + jalapeno hot sauce (10:1 by weight, I grow the tomatoes) and an equal amount of jars of plum sauce, 3/8lb sugar to 1lb plums (my fabulous small and very dark tart plums that get sweet when well ripened).

I've been canning since the 1970's!
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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For most people, growing your own food is a hobby, not a good cost cutting measure. It's labor intensive, can be expensive to get it set up, and yields (for the inputs) are relatively low and often poorly timed.
I have gardened food since the 1970's. I used to try lots of different things. Had plum trees, a fig tree, after several years learned techniques to grow tomatoes successfully, extremely abundantly most years. I had a good magazine style book and tried many different vegetables. Nowadays I mostly stick to tomatoes, kabocha squash, cilantro, sometimes some herbs. I dabble in some others occasionally, but those are my regulars. The picked kabocha squash (Japanese pumpkins) keep all through the winter and into the spring, which is nice. They are sweet and flavorful, a "winter squash."
 

BonzaiDuck

Lifer
Jun 30, 2004
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After 8 years of incivility in my face despite Biden's term, I want to be uncivil.

The facts are these:

The man is a sociopath and a narcissist -- a consortium of psychologists and psychiatrists, and the man's niece also among those professionals confirms it. These disorders often accompany the behavior of criminals, such as those who commit serial murder.

Generals of the JCS who served him have called him "dangerous" and a fascist.

He's a criminal -- not victim of political persecution -- but target for indictments based on the facts: prosecutors at 3 levels of government in at least 4 jurisdictions do not pursue indictments unless they have facts promising conviction. So, convicted or not, he's a criminal and a lifelong criminal at that.

He's a liar -- part and parcel of being a fascist. For either being a criminal or a liar, what person of common sense would trust such a person in ANY leadership position? If he'd been elected dog-catcher, I would've notified the ASPCA immediately, in concern for the dogs.

You cannot deny these things. Winning the popular vote and the electoral college does not make you right. There is evidence all over the place that Trump voters were the most uninformed and ill-informed electorate in any recent memory.

I just buried my 98-year-old Moms -- member of the Greatest Generation with my old man, who died in 1957. None of the Trumpers I've met -- on the street, in business, shown in the media -- can hold a candle to my ancestors. They would never have voted for such a Low-Life, particularly after what they'd been through ending in 1945. Trump voters would have to stand on my shoulders just to kiss their A**es.

Great again?! Not be a long shot. Lower than Crocodile Piss -- not ashamed to say it -- only ashamed of my country and the twits who've made it so as of November 5.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Here's a well written and thought out piece on coping with the coming Trump presidency.

This is how I'm going to cope. Heard a cover of this on the best FM radio station on the planet KEXP and it made me realize the existential path that I've tried to take on my life.
By the Grateful Dead

Walk me out in the morning dew my honey,
Walk me out in the morning dew today.
I can't walk you out in the morning dew my honey,
I can't walk you out in the morning dew today.
I thought I heard a baby cry this morning,
I thought I heard a baby cry this today.
You didn't hear no baby cry this morning,
You didn't hear no baby cry today.
Where have all the people gone my honey,
Where have all the people gone today.
There's no need for you to be worrying about all those people,
You never see those people anyway.
I thought I heard a young man morn this morning,
I thought I heard a young man morn today.
I thought I heard a young man morn this morning,
I can't walk you out in the morning dew today.
Walk me out in the morning dew my honey,
Walk me out in the morning dew today.
I'll walk you out in the morning dew my honey,
I guess it doesn't really matter anyway,
I guess it doesn't matter anyway,
I guess it doesn't matter anyway,
Guess it doesn't matter anyway...

Edit: they spelled morn wrong. mourn
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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This is how I'm going to cope. Heard a cover of this on the best FM radio station on the planet KEXP and it made me realize the existential path that I've tried to take on my life.
By the Grateful Dead

Walk me out in the morning dew my honey,
Walk me out in the morning dew today.
I can't walk you out in the morning dew my honey,
I can't walk you out in the morning dew today.
I thought I heard a baby cry this morning,
I thought I heard a baby cry this today.
You didn't hear no baby cry this morning,
You didn't hear no baby cry today.
Where have all the people gone my honey,
Where have all the people gone today.
There's no need for you to be worrying about all those people,
You never see those people anyway.
I thought I heard a young man morn this morning,
I thought I heard a young man morn today.
I thought I heard a young man morn this morning,
I can't walk you out in the morning dew today.
Walk me out in the morning dew my honey,
Walk me out in the morning dew today.
I'll walk you out in the morning dew my honey,
I guess it doesn't really matter anyway,
I guess it doesn't matter anyway,
I guess it doesn't matter anyway,
Guess it doesn't matter anyway...
Had 4 hand surgery sessions since December, last one 2 weeks ago (hope I won't need any more now), get the stitches out tomorrow. It's kept me off my bicycle and out of the gym, so for exercise (and mental health) have taken to walks, daily, and chanced on a HIKE! Up into the hills on dirt trails and have kept at it almost every single day for over 6 months. 1000 foot elevation climb. All on foot from my house. I've walked a LOT in my life but I feel now that I've learned to walk all over again, getting really good at it. I've learned to appreciate flowers, just walking past them, like never before.
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
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Had 4 hand surgery sessions since December, last one 2 weeks ago (hope I won't need any more now), get the stitches out tomorrow. It's kept me off my bicycle and out of the gym, so for exercise (and mental health) have taken to walks, daily, and chanced on a HIKE! Up into the hills on dirt trails and have kept at it almost every single day for over 6 months. 1000 foot elevation climb. All on foot from my house. I've walked a LOT in my life but I feel now that I've learned to walk all over again, getting really good at it. I've learned to appreciate flowers, just walking past them, like never before.

As part of my martial arts training, us kids had to take a walk in the jungle, find a comfortable spot to sit on, close our eyes and simply listen to what was going on around us. This was to improve our level of situational awareness as I was later told when I could comprehend what it meant. I was utterly amazed at what I was missing 'til then. My eyes were blinding me to a whole 'nother world that exists if only one cared to find it. What's more, every time I made an overt gesture, I could hear the natural world around me responding to it in more ways that I could ever imagine.

It's the same thing when I go spearfishing or hunting where I'd simply rest, relax and tune into nature, observing with all of my senses what's happening around me. It's surreal in it's reality.

So I really do understand where you're coming from in that regard. Kudos to you for your newfound discoveries.
 
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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As part of my martial arts training, us kids had to take a walk in the jungle, find a comfortable spot to sit on, close our eyes and simply listen to what was going on around us. This was to improve our level of situational awareness as I was later told when I could comprehend what it meant. I was utterly amazed at what I was missing 'til then. My eyes were blinding me to a whole 'nother world that exists if only one cared to find it. What's more, every time I made an overt gesture, I could hear the natural world around me responding to it in more ways that I could ever imagine.

It's the same thing when I go spearfishing or hunting where I'd simply rest, relax and tune into nature, observing with all of my senses what's happening around me. It's surreal in it's reality.

So I really do understand where you're coming from in that regard. Kudos to you for your newfound discoveries.
The scenery keeps changing, of course, when you go on extended walks. On occasion I have thought to concentrate on listening carefully to everything as well (can't close your eyes for more than a few seconds, so don't bother). Long walks are conducive to developing great insights.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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The scenery keeps changing, of course, when you go on extended walks. On occasion I have thought to concentrate on listening carefully to everything as well (can't close your eyes for more than a few seconds, so don't bother). Long walks are conducive to developing great insights.
On a walk or on the john, best thoughts have been derived.
 
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outriding

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Feb 20, 2002
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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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The people have spoken??

A favorite fortune cookie proverb:

"Man who think first will have good fortune."

I'm afraid too many voters didn't do their homework before this election.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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The people have spoken??

A favorite fortune cookie proverb:

"Man who think first will have good fortune."

I'm afraid too many voters didn't do their homework before this election.
And too many couldn't be bothered to turn out. I don't expect them to learn from it though.
 

VashHT

Diamond Member
Feb 1, 2007
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I watched half of it, it's not funny. Claims "we" endured Obama, man it really sucked having the economy come back after the recession during Bush's admin, I dunno how I endured that.
 
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