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AG907

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I'm saying that declaring a phony "national emergency" when there isn't one, and using that to justify the use of the military not to protect borders, but for "mass deportations" meaning a domestic use, is a very bad precedent for any POTUS and especially this one. But you obviously do not see Trump at all which is why you did not get my point. You probably think if Trump uses the military against illegal immigrants that it just stops after that.
If 20 million illegals doesn't qualify for a national emergency then I'm not sure what does.
 

ivwshane

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Every legal immigrant is listed on the US govt. immigration website database. How do I know this? I've been through the LEGAL US immigration process from start to finish.

So some entity (the military I presume) will be driving around trying to match up people who they have in their database? Go ahead and explain what/how the process works right up until “they” access their computer.
 

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So some entity (the military I presume) will be driving around trying to match up people who they have in their database? Go ahead and explain what/how the process works right up until “they” access their computer.
What would you suggest on how to deport 20 million illegals?
 

WelshBloke

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Here's some basic math for you: 'If there's 0 illegal immigrants in the US what percentage of crime will be committed by illegal immigrants in the US?'
Why does that matter? If my car gets stolen why do I care about the immigration status of the guy that stole it? It's not less stolen if the guy has a passport for that country.
 

AG907

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Why does that matter? If my car gets stolen why do I care about the immigration status of the guy that stole it? It's not less stolen if the guy has a passport for that country.
I'm guessing Gaelic is still the main language in Wales.

 

WelshBloke

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I'm guessing Gaelic is still the main language in Wales.

Gaelic has never been the language of Wales.

I'm not sure hat your definition of legal has got to do with the point. Are you arguing that someones citizenship makes them stealing a car less illegal?
 

AG907

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Gaelic has never been the language of Wales.

I'm not sure hat your definition of legal has got to do with the point. Are you arguing that someones citizenship makes them stealing a car less illegal?
I stand corrected ... Celtic ^^. The US has 20+ million illegals in our country atm and one of Trump's main objectives is to send them back to the countries they migrated from. Trump voters know this and it's one of the reasons they gave him a mandate. The majority of Americans don't want to end up like the UK or the Netherlands for that matter.
 
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WelshBloke

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I stand corrected ... Celtic ^^.
Celtic has also never been the language of Wales. I mean there's a hint in the name of the country.
Your knowledge of the UK is truly astonishingly lacking for someone who's pontificating about what's happening in the UK!
 
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AG907

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Celtic has also never been the language of Wales. I mean there's a hint in the name of the country.
Your knowledge of the UK is truly astonishingly lacking for someone who's pontificating about what's happening in the UK!
Celtic or Britonic. You only get to choose one says Merlyn.
 

AG907

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Those are types of languages.

Yeah. I'm sure your understanding of ancient British myths is as good as your understanding of linguistics or George Orwell.
I've been an avid reader of Orwell for sometime now. Ironically Orwell started out as a liberal until he saw the light.
 

AG907

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Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll be the exception! 🤷‍♂️🍿
I was born and raised in the US including serving in the army. My wife on the other hand was born in eastern Europe. We went through the LEGAL US immigration process.
 

WelshBloke

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I've been an avid reader of Orwell for sometime now. Ironically Orwell started out as a liberal until he saw the light.
We have already ascertained that you don't understand Orwell at all, there's no need to reiterate that.
 

ch33zw1z

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I was born and raised in the US including serving in the army. My wife on the other hand was born in eastern Europe. We went through the LEGAL US immigration process.

lol, see you’re safe. Not a naturalized citizen at all
 

WelshBloke

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I'm guessing you've read neither The Animal Farm or 1984. Orwell was something of a Nostradamus of his time.
Ok you can explain The road to Wigan pier and it's relationship with workers rights, a welfare state and the need or a nation health system.
 

AG907

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Ok you can explain The road to Wigan pier and it's relationship with workers rights, a welfare state and the need or a nation health system.
Published in 1937, written before that. What happened between that book and 1984 12 years afterwards? The Spanish Civil War happened and that played the biggest role in the change of thought process with George Orwell.
 

WelshBloke

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Published in 1937, written before that. What happened between that book and 1984 12 years afterwards? The Spanish Civil War happened and that played the biggest role in the change of thought process with George Orwell.
Lol. See this is what happens when you try to steal someones work and you don't understand any of it.
Orwell would not be on the same side as you.
 

AG907

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Lol. See this is what happens when you try to steal someones work and you don't understand any of it.
Orwell would not be on the same side as you.
Then you know little to nothing of Orwell. He started out as a hardcore liberal until he got a taste of the Spanish Civil War. That event had Orwell doing a complete 180. He saw the light so to say as in he saw what the Bolsheviks were all about. You would know this had read the Animal Farm and 1984 ... both books written post WW2.
 

ch33zw1z

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Food for thought
 
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AG907

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Food for thought
I would have loved to have had the chance to sit down and talk with that man.
 
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