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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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lol You guys all see the problem here? Look at all his sources. None of them give him all the information and he repeats it uncritically. This is what this country is up against. As soon as you refute/correct him, he’ll pop up with another claim based off of more misinformation.
I mean I'm not convinced that he's American either. His phrasing is weird at times, although that might just be me also not being American.

He is a champ at moving the goalposts and flailing around though!
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Now there's some leftist logic. "Because there's Americans that commit crime, we shouldn't have a problem with illegal alien criminals committing crime in the US."

Now that’s some righty lack of reading comprehension right there.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I mean I'm not convinced that he's American either. His phrasing is weird at times, although that might just be me also not being American.

He is a champ at moving the goalposts and flailing around though!

Wait are you saying the guy who just joined a political forum and who parrots right wing and foreign disinformation isn’t who he says he is? I’m shocked!
 

AG907

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Undocumented people commit crimes at much lower rates than native borns. So they actually LOWER the overall crime rate per capita.
More of that leftist logic. You should tell that to this 12 year old girl's parents. She was kidnapped, beaten, raped and strangled to death by two of Biden's Venezuelans.

 

Dave_5k

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If every illegal was gone, my car still would have been stolen. I have a problem with crime, I don't give a shit who's committing it. I've been the victim of 6 crimes, and none were illegals. And again, if no illegals were here, I'd still have been a victim of 6 crimes. So no, illegals aren't a big concern for me. To me it sounds like you're fine with crime, so long as it's red blooded Americans committing it. I don't have any American friends who were victims of this illegal alien crime you're obsessed with. Does it exist? Sure, but it's not anything close to what Trump's trying to make it out to be. I'll focus on the 95% of crime in my city that's people who were born here, the 5% that are illegals doesn't effect me like the 95%. Sure I want all crime to end, but if I have to focus on 1, it won't be the minority.

Again I speak 1st hand from someone who lives by the border in a county full of Illegals. Real world beats reading shit on teh intewebs and watching a biased channel like Fox News as your source of info.
Lived in Texas, although not right on border, within a 5 hour drive or so and significant undocumented immigrant population (perhaps 20%). Victim of one apartment break-in, 3 vehicle break-ins, all caught on cameras. Also served on three juries for other crimes, including one murder trial. Exactly zero were committed by immigrants (legal or illegal).

Immigrants, legal or illegal, commit crimes at far lower rates than do Americans. (Most realize they have far more to lose, and are here working to earn money for their families).
 

AG907

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Lived in Texas, although not right on border, within a 5 hour drive or so and significant undocumented immigrant population (perhaps 20%). Victim of one apartment break-in, 3 vehicle break-ins, all caught on cameras. Also served on three juries for other crimes, including one murder trial. Exactly zero were committed by immigrants (legal or illegal).

Immigrants, legal or illegal, commit crimes at far lower rates than do Americans. (Most realize they have far more to lose, and are here working to earn money for their families).
What percentage of crimes are committed in the US by illegals if there are no illegals in the US? I'm going with 0%.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Now there's some leftist logic. "Because there's Americans that commit crime, we shouldn't have a problem with illegal alien criminals committing crime in the US."
We should deport citizens at the same rate as immigrants for the same reasons, how about that?
 

AG907

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That's FEELS and doesn't refute the fact that immigrants commit less crime per capita. Away with you, bot/troll/RBM.
Well then that makes it ok. Remember when Democrats rioted, looted, burned down entire city blocks, assaulted and even committed murder in the name of George Floyd for months on end while doing nearly $4 billion in damages. Democrat politicians even bailed out some of those rioters only to have them commit violent felonies weeks if not days later. I remember. I wonder how Democrats would feel if conservatives did the same in the name of Joycelyn Nungary .. the 12 year old girl in the pic I posted.
 

Dave_5k

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What percentage of crimes are committed in the US by illegals if there are no illegals in the US? I'm going with 0%.
Perfect, we just give them all a simple path to legalization, and MAGA's fabricated fake news problem is all fixed. At zero cost.
 

AG907

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Perfect, we just give them all a simple path to legalization, and MAGA's fabricated fake news problem is all fixed. At zero cost.
There are already US immigration laws passed by Congress that are on the books. You want to immigrate to this country then do it by legal means.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Well then that makes it ok. Remember when Democrats rioted, looted, burned down entire city blocks, assaulted and even committed murder in the name of George Floyd for months on end while doing nearly $4 billion in damages. Democrat politicians even bailed out some of those rioters only to have them commit violent felonies weeks if not days later. I remember. I wonder how Democrats would feel if conservatives did the same in the name of Joycelyn Nungary .. the 12 year old girl in the pic I posted.


Strawman. Nobody said it makes it ok, it’s just not the problem you’re being led to believe it is, and we still expect the legal system to process crimes as usual.

Sad argument from a sad person 🤷‍♂️
 

AG907

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WelshBloke

Lifer
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Wait are you saying the guy who just joined a political forum and who parrots right wing and foreign disinformation isn’t who he says he is? I’m shocked!
He is all in on spreading divisiveness and tribalism. It is a classic russian troll play, doesn't matter if you're wrong or right just get people arguing with you and hope others join in!

That said it's genuinely hard to tell nowadays!
 
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AG907

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He is all in on spreading divisiveness and tribalism. It is a classic russian troll play, doesn't matter if you're wrong or right just get people arguing with you and hope others join in!

That said it's genuinely hard to tell nowadays!
Let's do the UK shall we. Do you know who these girls are and how they died.

 

fskimospy

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There are already US immigration laws passed by Congress that are on the books. You want to immigrate to this country then do it by legal means.
Man if you think people should follow the law you're going to be so mad when you learn what Trump's been up to.
 
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