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Artorias

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I think it would serve the opposition party(Dems) to not bang on the Hitler drum. As much fascist similarity there may be between both Trump and Elon they need to use something more recent and relevant

Use Putin and Russia as the example. Trump is taking pages out of the Putin playbook. Enriching oligarchs, threatening neighbors, creating false national security narratives etc.

Bringing up Hitler is hyperbolic at this time, the GOP has a lot of ammunition to defend itself. The average joe, non radicalized left/right has a hard time agreeing with the Hitler comparisons at this time, it serves no purpose to make those comparisons.
 
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esquared

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11 transwomen have been put in their place. Just what the founding fathers envisioned the country to be!


I was going to say less than 10, as that's what the head of the NCAA said.

All this fucking ruckus for 10 people. 🙄
Just like the outrage for surgery for jailed trans inmates.
I think there was one, IIRC.
 

Artorias

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You are living the life of one who gives rise to Hitlers. Granting someone of poor character complete power over the greatest military and economic force ever to allegedly exist in this solar system is a poor choice. Ignoring the idiocy going on with Musk, he first Fired all those who Oversee or Enforce Laws. Something proven inconvenient for him in the past.

Do the fucking math(s).
The mental gymnastics humans go through to justify their tribalism is fascinating.

Politicians at the highest levels parroting tropes such as; government should be run as a business, advocating for smaller governments to create more "efficiencies" are usually disingenuous.

Maybe at the local town/city, or maybe at state level their are politicians that care because it actually effects the work they do, at the grass roots, in the local community those things matter.

But federal politicians for the most part don't give a shit about the national debt, or creating government efficiencies. At that level its all about eliminating the checks and balances, they are all bought and paid for as Carlin said years ago.

Eliminating government departments to save a few cents doesn't do shit, its all about finding ways to undermine your enemies, enriching your friends, and eliminating regulations to support your corporate overlord.
 

Indus

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I think it would serve the opposition party(Dems) to not bang on the Hitler drum. As much fascist similarity there may be between both Trump and Elon they need to use something more recent and relevant

Use Putin and Russia as the example. Trump is taking pages out of the Putin playbook. Enriching oligarchs, threatening neighbors, creating false national security narratives etc.

Bringing up Hitler is hyperbolic at this time, the GOP has a lot of ammunition to defend itself. The average joe, non radicalized left/right has a hard time agreeing with the Hitler comparisons at this time, it serves no purpose at this time to make those comparisons.

Fascism has many examples..

Hitler is just the most extreme version.

What people forget about Fascism is it's actually quite common around the world and it almost never ends unless it's by a revolution.

Recent examples: Basher al Assad, Shiekh Hasina, Ferdinand Marcos.
 

Pens1566

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So I admittedly I don't really follow current events, but are trans men in female sports really this big of a problem? I know it exists, and I don't think it's right. But MAGAs cry about it like every 5th "female" in female sports is actually a dude pretending to be a chick. I don't think trans men should be playing against females, I also can't imagine it's anywhere close to the epidemic level the MAGAs are making it out to be. This shouldn't have been one of the main issues for Trump to tackle.

Or am I wrong and are female sports being overran by Ms. Doubtfires?

The last # I saw was something like 10-11 in all of college sports. It's a non-issue.
 
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K1052

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I was going to say less than 10, as that's what the head of the NCAA said.

All this fucking ruckus for 10 people. 🙄
Just like the outrage for surgery for jailed trans inmates.
I think there was one, IIRC.

Trans panic shows a lot of the same attributes as the gay panic conservatives used to foment against us. More or less the same playbook just on fast forward.
 

pmv

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I think it would serve the opposition party(Dems) to not bang on the Hitler drum. As much fascist similarity there may be between both Trump and Elon they need to use something more recent and relevant

Use Putin and Russia as the example. Trump is taking pages out of the Putin playbook. Enriching oligarchs, threatening neighbors, creating false national security narratives etc.

Bringing up Hitler is hyperbolic at this time, the GOP has a lot of ammunition to defend itself. The average joe, non radicalized left/right has a hard time agreeing with the Hitler comparisons at this time, it serves no purpose to make those comparisons.

Yeah, something to that. Question is how many Americans actively admire Putin and don't see anything wrong in following in his footsteps?
 

QueBert

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The last # I saw was something like 10-11 in all of college sports. It's a non-issue.

So the MAGA who told me that 6 trans athletes won medals at the Olympics didn't know what they were talking about? Color me shocked...
 

Moonbeam

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Seems to me that any attempts to prevent Trump from destroying the country are fundamentally anti-democratic. The people have spoken and voted for what is happening. They voted for a political morality that is reflects their own character.
 
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Recent examples: Basher al Assad, Shiekh Hasina, Ferdinand Marcos.
A taxi driver told me that she did enough economic development that the current losers in charge won't have to worry about anything for the next 50 years. Personally, don't have any idea about their politics and don't care.
 

nakedfrog

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Good! This stuff was getting out of hand and is not fair to women. It's bonkers that this was even a thing to begin with, it was a huge joke.
Getting out of hand? What percentage of trans women would need to be involved in the NCAA in order for things to qualify as "out of hand"? Oh, I know for you any number greater than 0 is out of hand because you're a hateful prick.
So I admittedly I don't really follow current events, but are trans men in female sports really this big of a problem? I know it exists, and I don't think it's right. But MAGAs cry about it like every 5th "female" in female sports is actually a dude pretending to be a chick. I don't think trans men should be playing against females, I also can't imagine it's anywhere close to the epidemic level the MAGAs are making it out to be. This shouldn't have been one of the main issues for Trump to tackle.

Or am I wrong and are female sports being overran by Ms. Doubtfires?
The NCAA has more than 530,000 student-athletes enrolled. Evidently less than 10 of them were trans. Wildly out of hand, how dare they exist, something must be done about them. Existing, you know. That's the real problem here, they're out here... being alive, you know? Squirrel is in favor of the Last Solution (they were going to go with "Final" but that didn't test well in focus groups for some reason)

 

QueBert

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Getting out of hand? What percentage of trans women would need to be involved in the NCAA in order for things to qualify as "out of hand"? Oh, I know for you any number greater than 0 is out of hand because you're a hateful prick.

The NCAA has more than 530,000 student-athletes enrolled. Evidently less than 10 of them were trans. Wildly out of hand, how dare they exist, something must be done about them. Existing, you know. That's the real problem here, they're out here... being alive, you know? Squirrel is in favor of the Last Solution (they were going to go with "Final" but that didn't test well in focus groups for some reason)


Well between the 9 trans NCAA athletes and the probably .06% of crimes being committed by Illegal Immigrants from Mexico & Central America our country is DOOMED. And I bet maybe 1 or 2 of those trans athletes are illegals! Why is nobody talking about the illegals who are also trans athletes?

Sleepy Joe didn't give a shit about either of these epidemics, thankfully Lord Trump is back in office and he's not fuckin around.
 

ch33zw1z

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Well between the 9 trans NCAA athletes and the probably .06% of crimes being committed by Illegal Immigrants from Mexico & Central America our country is DOOMED. And I bet maybe 1 or 2 of those trans athletes are illegals! Why is nobody talking about the illegals who are also trans athletes?

Sleepy Joe didn't give a shit about either of these epidemics, thankfully Lord Trump is back in office and he's not fuckin around.

All heil!
 
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GunsMadeAmericaFree

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Hitler got shit done too. You do not even know what they are "doing".
Are you seriously comparing Hitler to women being able to compete on a fair playing field as they were able to do through most of history? Hitler killed entire groups of people, dead. I don't think that letting women have a level playing field for sports does anything like that.
 
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fskimospy

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Are you seriously comparing Hitler to women being able to compete on a fair playing field as they were able to do through most of history? Hitler killed entire groups of people, dead. I don't think that letting women have a level playing field for sports does anything like that.
You do realize this affects nearly no one, right? The anti-trans stuff is just performative stupidity that accomplishes nearly nothing even if you think trans people shouldn't be able to compete in their chosen gender.

I think the comparisons to Hitler should be more about attempting to end democracy and the whole concentration camp thing but to be fair Hitler also hated LGBT people.
 

Paratus

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Are you seriously comparing Hitler to women being able to compete on a fair playing field as they were able to do through most of history? Hitler killed entire groups of people, dead. I don't think that letting women have a level playing field for sports does anything like that.
Dude. Why are you OBSESSED with maybe a dozen or two trans athletes so much that the government must handle this issue instead of the governing sports body.


You don’t seem that concerned with women actually dying from preventable pregnancy complications. So it’s not some weird chivalrous belief you have in behalf of women. So it’s some weird obsession with trans folks.
 

VashHT

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Yeah it doesn't stop at sports either, right wingers attack trans people everywhere, they just don't want them to exist. One thing I find hilarious about this is that right wing guys I know rip on women's sports more than anyone else, now they pretend to care about them
 
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Yeah it doesn't stop at sports either, right wingers attack trans people everywhere, they just don't want them to exist. One thing I find hilarious about this is that right wing guys I know rip on women's sports more than anyone else, now they pretend to care about them
Attacking trans people is just a Republican backdoor method to attack women. It's completely rooted in misogyny.
 

brycejones

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Are you seriously comparing Hitler to women being able to compete on a fair playing field as they were able to do through most of history? Hitler killed entire groups of people, dead. I don't think that letting women have a level playing field for sports does anything like that.
I'm not sure I can take anyone seriously who appears to be serious about using the full power of the federal government to address a very small number of cases that would be better addressed by the experts in each sport who are able to make informed decisions about rather or not advantages exist.
 
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