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nickqt

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Dude. Why are you OBSESSED with maybe a dozen or two trans athletes so much that the government must handle this issue instead of the governing sports body.


You don’t seem that concerned with women actually dying from preventable pregnancy complications. So it’s not some weird chivalrous belief you have in behalf of women. So it’s some weird obsession with trans folks.
US Conservatives spend a lot of time thinking about other peoples' genitals.
 
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Dude. Why are you OBSESSED with maybe a dozen or two trans athletes so much that the government must handle this issue instead of the governing sports body.


You don’t seem that concerned with women actually dying from preventable pregnancy complications. So it’s not some weird chivalrous belief you have in behalf of women. So it’s some weird obsession with trans folks.
Agreed the Federal Government does not need to be involved in high school or college sports other than basic stuff like tax law, safety standards.
 
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Agreed the Federal Government does not need to be involved in high school or college sports other than basic stuff like tax law, safety standards.
The Department of Education is involved to some degree in K-12 education is because they are the primary enforcement mechanism for the ADA in schools, which many districts and states would rather not have to comply with for special needs students.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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The Department of Education is involved to some degree in K-12 education is because they are the primary enforcement mechanism for the ADA in schools, which many districts and states would rather not have to comply with for special needs students.
Also Title 9 in college sports.
 
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pmv

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May 30, 2008
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Agreed the Federal Government does not need to be involved in high school or college sports other than basic stuff like tax law, safety standards.

The only purpose of high school sport should be to ensure children get some physical exercise. It begins and ends with that. Get 'em running up and down and moving about a bit, that's all that matters, whatever approach works for each individual.
I _hated_ being obliged to go for 'cross country runs' (which meant running around the local streets) at the time, but in retrospect am actually happy they forced me to do it.
Not entirely sure why 'colleges' (which seems to mean 'universities') need to be formally involved in sport at all.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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The only purpose of high school sport should be to ensure children get some physical exercise. It begins and ends with that. Get 'em running up and down and moving about a bit, that's all that matters, whatever approach works for each individual.
I _hated_ being obliged to go for 'cross country runs' (which meant running around the local streets) at the time, but in retrospect am actually happy they forced me to do it.
Not entirely sure why 'colleges' (which seems to mean 'universities') need to be formally involved in sport at all.
They make shockingly large amounts of money from it, that's all. It's all money, top to bottom.
 

ondma

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This is part of the reason trans men almost have an invisibility field whenever the topic is discussed.
And also that women who transition, as far as I know are not competing in men's sports.

Edit: I agree that the decision should be left to the governing body of the sport. Did the Biden administration get involved? I don't really know who was making the final decision to let trans women compete in women's sports. I hope Laken Riley is happy though. She doesn't have to worry about those pesky trans athletes anymore, but we have pretty much lost any semblance of our democracy. A small price to pay. She even came out and said something like "God bless president Trump".
 
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brycejones

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Oct 18, 2005
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The Department of Education is involved to some degree in K-12 education is because they are the primary enforcement mechanism for the ADA in schools, which many districts and states would rather not have to comply with for special needs students.
Sounds like some states are suing to end 504s because they are DEI.

 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Sounds like some states are suing to end 504s because they are DEI.

It's interesting to see conservatives move from the 1960's position that it wasn't the government's business to stop people from being racist to the 2025 position that it IS the government's job to try and make people more racist.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Attacking trans people is just a Republican backdoor method to attack women. It's completely rooted in misogyny.
I guarantee that if you find a bloke raging about "fairness in womens sports" that same bloke would have been saying "Hurr durr! Womens football isn't real football!" before they were programmed to think that this was a massive threat to western civilization!
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Also @Red Squirrel do you not feel a bit shitty simping for the guy that is literally threatening your country financially and security wise?
At some point you are either going to have to realise that you're on the bad side of history here or just embrace that you're a terrible person. The desperate pretzels of rationalisation that you are constantly doing aren't that sustainable.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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And also that women who transition, as far as I know are not competing in men's sports.
It's neat how this serves to point out the invisibility field, because they have in the past, maybe the most recent higher profile example would be Bobbie Hirsch, who competed in the NCAA Men's Regional for fencing in 2023.
 

nakedfrog

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Also @Red Squirrel do you not feel a bit shitty simping for the guy that is literally threatening your country financially and security wise?
At some point you are either going to have to realise that you're on the bad side of history here or just embrace that you're a terrible person. The desperate pretzels of rationalisation that you are constantly doing aren't that sustainable.
You underestimate his skills, he's got a lot of practice at this.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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Sounds like some states are suing to end 504s because they are DEI.


Really sad, basic accommodations for learning success being challenged in court, real shocker

Guess all those white kids participating in 504’s and IEP’s are just not actually the correct type of white
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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The only purpose of high school sport should be to ensure children get some physical exercise. It begins and ends with that. Get 'em running up and down and moving about a bit, that's all that matters, whatever approach works for each individual.
I _hated_ being obliged to go for 'cross country runs' (which meant running around the local streets) at the time, but in retrospect am actually happy they forced me to do it.
Not entirely sure why 'colleges' (which seems to mean 'universities') need to be formally involved in sport at all.
I remember about 4th grade after JFK was elected, instead of just chasing each other around aimlessly, or prison dodge during recess, we actually started having planned goals of running 50, 100, 600 yards, calisthenics, tumbling, and oh yea, apparently money for an actual gym teacher. I also survived playing on metal jungle gyms, without padding or a helmet.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Also @Red Squirrel do you not feel a bit shitty simping for the guy that is literally threatening your country financially and security wise?
At some point you are either going to have to realise that you're on the bad side of history here or just embrace that you're a terrible person. The desperate pretzels of rationalisation that you are constantly doing aren't that sustainable.

I don't have to agree with everything he's doing to us, but overall he is doing good for America, revealing all the waste and corruption and trimming the fat and just cutting through all the bullshit. Got to respect him for that. The billions of tax dollars being wasted is just insane. I wish we had someone like him here doing the same. Pisses me off every time I see how many billions are spent on immigrants, stupid pet projects, useless bureaucrats, sent overseas etc while there are many people here struggling just to try to make ends meet. I feel bad for the young generation who pretty much don't even have any chance of home ownership anymore.

The tariffs are more our own government's fault, if we had decent leadership we could be a very rich country and be less reliant on the states in first place. Right now they're maxing out the propaganda machine and somehow managing to gain in popularity despite carney being just as bad, if worse than Trudeau. Carney is nothing but a corporate and WEF shill, being PM is just going to be a position for him, he's not doing it for the country. Hoping this is just the Kamala effect and will die hard at election time. We need a conservative majority to get out of the mess we're in especially with Trump being president in the states. I think both countries will do well if we work together instead of against each other.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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I don't have to agree with everything he's doing to us, but overall he is doing good for America, revealing all the waste and corruption and trimming the fat and just cutting through all the bullshit. Got to respect him for that. The billions of tax dollars being wasted is just insane. I wish we had someone like him here doing the same. Pisses me off every time I see how many billions are spent on immigrants, stupid pet projects, useless bureaucrats, sent overseas etc while there are many people here struggling just to try to make ends meet. I feel bad for the young generation who pretty much don't even have any chance of home ownership anymore.

The tariffs are more our own government's fault, if we had decent leadership we could be a very rich country and be less reliant on the states in first place. Right now they're maxing out the propaganda machine and somehow managing to gain in popularity despite carney being just as bad, if worse than Trudeau. Carney is nothing but a corporate and WEF shill, being PM is just going to be a position for him, he's not doing it for the country. Hoping this is just the Kamala effect and will die hard at election time. We need a conservative majority to get out of the mess we're in especially with Trump being president in the states. I think both countries will do well if we work together instead of against each other.

... How is American arbitrary tariffs Canada's fault? Why are you in Timmins? You should move to America if you love it so much.
 

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I don't have to agree with everything he's doing to us, but overall he is doing good for America, revealing all the waste and corruption and trimming the fat and just cutting through all the bullshit. Got to respect him for that. The billions of tax dollars being wasted is just insane. I wish we had someone like him here doing the same. Pisses me off every time I see how many billions are spent on immigrants, stupid pet projects, useless bureaucrats, sent overseas etc while there are many people here struggling just to try to make ends meet. I feel bad for the young generation who pretty much don't even have any chance of home ownership anymore.

The tariffs are more our own government's fault, if we had decent leadership we could be a very rich country and be less reliant on the states in first place. Right now they're maxing out the propaganda machine and somehow managing to gain in popularity despite carney being just as bad, if worse than Trudeau. Carney is nothing but a corporate and WEF shill, being PM is just going to be a position for him, he's not doing it for the country. Hoping this is just the Kamala effect and will die hard at election time. We need a conservative majority to get out of the mess we're in especially with Trump being president in the states. I think both countries will do well if we work together instead of against each other.

Yea gotta respect the liars and grifters for exposing the corruption, LOL, you win the mental gymnastics platinum medal today
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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See? Squirrel is so blindingly stupid he believes the lies coming from our administration, and wants that for himself.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
32,184
10,225
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I don't have to agree with everything he's doing to us, but overall he is doing good for America, revealing all the waste and corruption and trimming the fat and just cutting through all the bullshit. Got to respect him for that. The billions of tax dollars being wasted is just insane. I wish we had someone like him here doing the same. Pisses me off every time I see how many billions are spent on immigrants, stupid pet projects, useless bureaucrats, sent overseas etc while there are many people here struggling just to try to make ends meet. I feel bad for the young generation who pretty much don't even have any chance of home ownership anymore.
Are you just assuming that because Trump says he's doing something then he's actually doing that?
So far his cutting government waste involves setting up two entirely new redundant government departments! Oh and handing over a bunch of private data to Musks unelected (and likely illegal) team.
The tariffs are more our own government's fault, if we had decent leadership we could be a very rich country and be less reliant on the states in first place. Right now they're maxing out the propaganda machine and somehow managing to gain in popularity despite carney being just as bad, if worse than Trudeau. Carney is nothing but a corporate and WEF shill, being PM is just going to be a position for him, he's not doing it for the country. Hoping this is just the Kamala effect and will die hard at election time. We need a conservative majority to get out of the mess we're in especially with Trump being president in the states. I think both countries will do well if we work together instead of against each other.
Honestly coming over like an abused spouse there! "Oh its my fault he hits me, if I did what he said he wouldnt do it!"
 
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WilliamM2

Platinum Member
Jun 14, 2012
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I don't have to agree with everything he's doing to us, but overall he is doing good for America, revealing all the waste and corruption and trimming the fat and just cutting through all the bullshit.

You really are an idiot. They have not "revealed" any waste yet, they just make claims. They have not provided one shred of evidence. Looks like they never will:


On Wednesday evening, DOGE advisor Katie Miller wrote on X that Musk's group is protected by the Presidential Records Act. Under that act, DOGE records would remain sealed until 2034, five years after Trump leaves office and eight years after DOGE is set to disband.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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You people are delusional. Got to admit I've been enjoying the cope though. DOGE has saved over 87 BILLION so far. Imagine being mad at that. Sadly, that's a drop in the bucket compared to the debt, but they are only just starting.

Lookup Stockholm Syndrome, that is what you guys are suffering from. It's a problem here in Canada too, considering there are still people who plan to vote liberal after 10 years of destruction of the country.
 
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