And the military is bound under oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. And there are provisions for disobeying unlawful orders.
Did you read the ruling?It is absolutely relevant considering the entire point of SCOTUS is to determine constitutionality.
If you've ever been in the military you know disobeying an order based on the idea it is unlawful is an EXTREMELY dangerous act.And the military is bound under oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. And there are provisions for disobeying unlawful orders.
Great, so we need to rely on the judgement of some lieutenant or whatever to not obey an illegal (in their judgement) order like opening fire on a protest. Nice guardrails we got there.And the military is bound under oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. And there are provisions for disobeying unlawful orders.
And you have to hope that after he is removed for not following orders that every other person who replaces him similarly refuses.Great, so we need to rely on the judgement of some lieutenant or whatever to not obey an illegal (in their judgement) order like opening fire on a protest. Nice guardrails we got there.
It’s certainly possible (probable?) that an attempt by the president to kill officials who defy him would be met with resistance, maybe even violent resistance.For the record, I agree that it's a rational fear. I am simply disagreeing that it's already set in stone. It would certainly create a Constitutional crisis if the attempt were ever made, and that's just the least of the problems.
Curious what your thoughts are on how/if we pull out of this. Or are we cooked?It’s certainly possible (probable?) that an attempt by the president to kill officials who defy him would be met with resistance, maybe even violent resistance.
From a legal standpoint though for all intents and purposes it is legal for the president to order anyone he doesn’t like killed, at least according to the current iteration of SCOTUS. It would still technically be a crime but it would be a crime he is immune from prosecution for so what does it matter.
I don’t think we are cooked at all but it is difficult for me to see a way out without something bad happening first.Curious what your thoughts are on how/if we pull out of this. Or are we cooked?
If Trump dies the proverbial bloodletting in the GOP will be epic as they all scramble to take over.I don’t think we are cooked at all but it is difficult for me to see a way out without something bad happening first.
Probably the least bad outcome is Trump chokes on some KFC as I see no immediate, credible successor. The Republican Party is a personality cult now and without the personality the cult is hard to hold together.
It was bad enough them just picking a new speaker...If Trump dies the proverbial bloodletting in the GOP will be epic as they all scramble to take over.
That it is even a rational fear shows how bad the SCOTUS decision is.For the record, I agree that it's a rational fear. I am simply disagreeing that it's already set in stone. It would certainly create a Constitutional crisis if the attempt were ever made, and that's just the least of the problems.
For the record, I agree that it's a rational fear. I am simply disagreeing that it's already set in stone. It would certainly create a Constitutional crisis if the attempt were ever made, and that's just the least of the problems.
Where is @Red Squirrel? I thought he was going to show us proof of $87B in saving? I mean that should cover the 4T debt ceiling increase and 4.5T tax cut right?
Think about the ruling, and tell us how it can be determined if something is an official act or not when you are not allowed to investigate the actions of the President, or ask him any questions about what he is doing? It's like trying to decide if a glass has water, vodka, or some deadly chemical in it by just looking at it because you are not allowed to touch it, smell it, or do any kind of testing of the liquid.This is wrong. SCOTUS said the POTUS gets immunity for official acts. They did not define what an official act is. Of course, they could potentially decide an execution counts as an official act, but likely narrowly for whatever case caused that to be presented to the court.
MAGAs are cheering loudly RFKJ being offically appointed. Since I'm terrified of what he'll do, I'm an idiot who needs to stop listening to the MSM because he's going to fix the health problems in the country. Apparently, he's the best thing that's happened to this country in a long time.
They have to be trolls, even for MAGA level stupid thinking he's the most qualified man for his position is bat shit crazy. And of course the congress unanimously voted him in like he really was the prime canidate.
MAGAs are cheering loudly RFKJ being offically appointed. Since I'm terrified of what he'll do, I'm an idiot who needs to stop listening to the MSM because he's going to fix the health problems in the country. Apparently, he's the best thing that's happened to this country in a long time.
They have to be trolls, even for MAGA level stupid thinking he's the most qualified man for his position is bat shit crazy. And of course the congress unanimously voted him in like he really was the prime canidate.
Is he the worst of Trump's selections, though? Worse than putting Assad-defender Tulsi Gabbard in charge of the nation's most sensitive secrets? Worse than putting that Christo-fascist bloke in charge of the military (his expressed views just seem utterly, utterly mad to me)?
Unusually, not everything RFKjr appears to believe is mad and harmful. What's weird about it all is that his particular form of craziness is not entirely the same as Trump's - it's as if this is an all-star gang of crazy people, each with their own particular, but slightly-different, set of negative traits - a government of none of the talents, the Injustice League.
Gotta spend money to save money!That is part of the 58B saving!