The pettiness of office managers never ceases to amaze me

[Ns1]

So, if you're a salesman, oh let's say of commercial printers, and you show up at the Procurement Department of a major new client in your jeans and t-shirt, they would be idiots if they based their impression on your attire? Sorry, but your appearance matters. It's human nature.

I had to go to a deposition once; I met the other lawyer and was completely flabbergasted - white track pants + tank top style workout shirt.

WTF is this, Jon Guido, ESQ?

Expensive lawyer with an expensive office in Santa Monica to boot.

 

[brianmanahan]

So, if you're a salesman, oh let's say of commercial printers, and you show up at the Procurement Department of a major new client in your jeans and t-shirt, they would be idiots if they based their impression on your attire? Sorry, but your appearance matters. It's human nature.

i would be more inclined to buy from someone in a tshirt and jeans, because they're not an bozo who thinks suits or business casual matter for crap in anything that anyone does

 

[brianmanahan]

I had to go to a deposition once; I met the other lawyer and was completely flabbergasted - white track pants + tank top style workout shirt.

WTF is this, Jon Guido, ESQ?

Expensive lawyer with an expensive office in Santa Monica to boot.

maybe he is just confident enough in his ability that he doesnt need to dress himself up to pathetically try to convince other people of said ability

 

[Ns1]

maybe he is just confident enough in his ability that he doesnt need to dress himself up to pathetically try to convince other people of said ability

I don't doubt his ability, it was just screamed douchey as fuck and unprofessional. I mean come the fuck on, the rest of your fucking office is in suit/tie.

 

[vi edit]

Here's the shoe in question...I was wearing a light pair of kahkis and a polo with them.
http://www.foroatletismo.com/imagenes/2010/10/lr_T0A1N_0123.jpg

As for what I do...I sit at a desk all day and work tickets and do application build. No face to face contact with customers.

I don't have a problem with a manager reporting something to another manager. Especially when it's a glaring procedural or legal issue. But a) to even notice I'm wearing a tennis shoe and b) be so offended by it that you report it another manager? Really? Come on.

 

[olds]

I've never understood this. People miss 1 day of work because they are coughing, and their stupid fuck employer wants a note? Yeah, let's waste $100 and the doctor's time for him to write down on a piece of paper that you are in fact coughing.

Companies should be required by law to pay 100% the cost of seeing the doctor and the cost of the note. If you want a note, you pay for it.

It's policy after 2 days where I work. Though I don't enforce it unless I suspect the person of trying to get one over. Like missing a mandated (training, workload) day.

 

[vi edit]

It's policy after 2 days where I work. Though I don't enforce it unless I suspect the person of trying to get one over. Like missing a mandated (training, workload) day.

When I was first hired our sick policy was 1st day was PTO, 2nd sick day came out of your sick bank. NO ONE was ever sick for just one day. 2nd day was a freebie since most of us (that weren't ever going to or done having kids) rarely ever got to use sick time. Doctors note was only required after 3 days.

They yanked that policy a few years ago. Now it's 3 days of PTO from being sick and then you start dipping into your sick time once you have a doctor's note.

 

[ShawnD1]

If my computer was broken and the tech guy was wearing tennis shoes, I would refuse to let him fix my computer. Anything less than business attire to fix my computer is unacceptable.

 

[brianmanahan]

If my computer was broken and the tech guy was wearing tennis shoes, I would refuse to let him fix my computer. Anything less than business attire to fix my computer is unacceptable.

this, but apply to ANY FREAKIN JOB IN THE WORLD

 

[Imp]

Meh, I've been bitched out for staying until 5pm. Ya, fucking head office of a municipal government office. Entire organization had some nazi rule about leaving at 4:30 (8:30 to 4:30) for "security" purposes...

 

[child of wonder]

I often work from home. Dress code is clothing optional.

 

[brianmanahan]

Meh, I've been b****d out for staying until 5pm. Ya, f****g head office of a municipal government office. Entire organization had some nazi rule about leaving at 4:30 (8:30 to 4:30) for "security" purposes...

i just got done working at 9:00 (pm)

 

[blurredvision]

Something has to be said. If not, people start taking advantage, next thing you know everybody is wearing shorts and flip-flops because the people in charge of keeping the dress code were a bunch of pussies.

 

[vi edit]

I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Yep.

 

[Ns1]

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Easy: More often than not, when I see people dressing better than they usually do, it's because they're interviewing.

 

[SparkyJJO]

This kind of thing reminds me why I like my job at a small company so much. Office politics simply don't exist. It is awesome.

 

[Braznor]

I always keep a spare set of clothing in my locker at the office.

 

[Lifted]

After two days I had a copy of the dress code with "running shoes" circled as prohibited items.

What did she say when you sat down with her and told her about your injury?

I tore it up and laughed.

Oh, IT, no people skills.

I tell my boss on Tuesday that I'm going to break the dress code a few days because my toe is fubared. After two days another manager approached my boss about my dress code again.

And your boss said... ?

I assume he has people skills which is why he is your boss.

You learned something valuable today. :thumbsup:

 

[brianmanahan]

I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.

i am not programmed this way in the slightest, which is probably why i hate it so much

 

[brianmanahan]

What did she say when you sat down with her and told her about your injury?

Oh, IT, no people skills.

And your boss said... ?

I assume he has people skills which is why he is your boss.

You learned something valuable today. :thumbsup:

stupid

 

[Jeff7]

I just find the emotional aspect of clothing in general rather bizarre.

I frequently wear some very nice, fitted dress shirts along with dress slacks. Nobody says anything. Slap a tie on that outfit and I suddenly get half a dozen comments about "oh you look nice today"..."what job are you interviewing for?"..ect.

Same outfit, only difference is a tie. Does it *really* change things much? That one accessory?

Just very strange how we are programmed.

Dressing in business clothing: It proves that you know how to go to a clothing store, say "I need some business clothes and a tie" to an employee there, and that you can then dress yourself without choking on your belt.
It doesn't require a whole lot of intelligence, but as you point out, it's an easy way to impress some people.

Now, I won't deny that some decent clothing can indeed be aesthetically pleasing. But it doesn't prove your worth as a human being. It's fabric stuff we wear, partly out of practicality to cover our (mostly/sometimes) hairless bodies, partly out of our ideas of modesty, partly out of hygienic habits, partly out of utility (oooooh, more pockets), and partly just for logistics so it's easier to tell who's who ("Hey, that's not a FedEx guy peeing on my lawn!).

This kind of thing reminds me why I like my job at a small company so much. Office politics simply don't exist. It is awesome.

Small company with no office politics. You're the sole employee then, I presume? :awe:


I once thought there were no politics like that where I worked - but that was because I was afforded the luxury of being stashed in the office/box with the other two engineers, and our main interactions with people there were primarily when they needed technical help with something, and then it was back to our box.
The company started growing, and management started trying to get us more "involved."


I miss that quiet little box.

 

[Phoenix86]

it only matters because of idiots who think it matters

Some of those idiots are called owners, executives, partners, clients, customers, jurors, judges, etc.

Keep fighting the system, don't let the man bring you down.

 

[brianmanahan]

Some of those idiots are called owners, executives, partners, clients, customers, jurors, judges, etc.

Keep fighting the system, don't let the man bring you down.

i do man, i do

doesnt matter what their job is, on this matter they are wrong

 

[Corporate Thug]

get a note. tell them they are tempting a ADA suit.

sit back and laugh.

reminder of the dress code is not an adverse employment action.

If you want to hear about petty, my former cheap ass office manager asked for an explanation every time someone asked for a highlighter...