The Peyton Manning Release Watch

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railer

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Seems to me that the only fair thing here would be for Peyton to renegotiate his contract.
He should a heavy performance laden contract, with a small amount of $$$ for being on the roster, an progressively more money for the number of games that he plays. If he plays in all 16 - then he gets his 28 mil. Wonder if the NFLPA would let that happen. The MLBPA definately would not.
 

sactoking

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it's huge news the week before the game and just over a month from the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ date.

I just don't see it. Manning was going to find a doctor somewhere that would certify him to play. All the speculation about that was just hype. However, just because he's been cleared by an MD on his neck does not mean that he will pass a team-administered physical.

It's pretty well-known in NFL circles that if a team wants you to fail your physical, you fail and vice versa. If the Colts want to cut ties with Manning they will fail him in his physical.
 

IndyColtsFan

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Sep 22, 2007
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Time to get me a manning jersey on the cheap, since I missed out on the marvin harrison one.

I've got 3 'authentic' Manning jerseys:

White SB 41 jersey
Blue SB 44 jersey
Blue regular jersey

I say 'authentic' because I got them off eBay and I suspect that may not be really "authentic," but they look like they are and were reasonable.

I don't have a regular jersey with the Captain's patch though, so maybe I should pick one up.
 

IndyColtsFan

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I just don't see it. Manning was going to find a doctor somewhere that would certify him to play. All the speculation about that was just hype. However, just because he's been cleared by an MD on his neck does not mean that he will pass a team-administered physical.

It's pretty well-known in NFL circles that if a team wants you to fail your physical, you fail and vice versa. If the Colts want to cut ties with Manning they will fail him in his physical.

I thought I heard that two doctors cleared him and one was from the Colts, but maybe I didn't hear that correctly.
 
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I REALLY don't want to have to wear a Manning Jets jersey. D:

I wish but have no hope that he'd go to the Chiefs. They should have the money, plus could bring over Saturday (if he doesn't retire) and/or Wayne if Peyton wanted. They have a pretty decent receiver group already, and if Charles comes back healthy could have a pretty special running back. Peyton could even be the OC. Most other player issues should be able to be resolved via FA or the draft. The defense is about a player (and a healthy Eric Berry) away from being pretty damn good (finished 11th yds/gm and 12th pts/gm without Berry, and finished right around there with him as a rookie and missing some of the young guys they have now).

And hey, it worked out pretty decently before for the Chiefs. If they got the same time they got out of Montana I'd be pleased (at least then it should close the door on Cassel).

There's no way it happens, but if they at least try would give me some faith that Pioli isn't a fucking moron.
 

IndyColtsFan

Lifer
Sep 22, 2007
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I tend to think the Cardinals, Redskins, and Jets would be the leaders but I would not be shocked if the Cowboys made a play either.
 

Hacp

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I just don't see it. Manning was going to find a doctor somewhere that would certify him to play. All the speculation about that was just hype. However, just because he's been cleared by an MD on his neck does not mean that he will pass a team-administered physical.

It's pretty well-known in NFL circles that if a team wants you to fail your physical, you fail and vice versa. If the Colts want to cut ties with Manning they will fail him in his physical.

This is the doctor that performed his neck surgery. I think I'll trust a renowned neck surgeon on the condition of Manning's neck over some random sports doctor who has probably never performed complicated neck surgery in his entire life.
 

sactoking

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I thought I heard that two doctors cleared him and one was from the Colts, but maybe I didn't hear that correctly.

I heard two as well, one was the doctor that did the surgery and the other is unknown.

This is the doctor that performed his neck surgery. I think I'll trust a renowned neck surgeon on the condition of Manning's neck over some random sports doctor who has probably never performed complicated neck surgery in his entire life.

That's the thing though, the only opinion that counts is the Colts' team physicians. If they don't pass him on a physical then he is officially unable to play. The player does not get a second opinion. The Colts team doctors also don't have to give him a pass/fail on his neck, they can give him a pass/fail on anything they want if they want to keep him away.

When Favre was traded to the Packers the team doctors wanted to fail him and void the trade but Ron Wolf overruled them and he "miraculously" passed his physical.

In 2004 the Packers tried to trade Jamal Reynolds to the Colts, the Colts had second thoughts, and Reynolds "mysteriously" failed his physical. The trade was voided and the Packers cut him. He was picked up by the Browns a few days later and "miraculously" passed his physical.

In 2006 Lee Suggs passed a Cleveland physical, was traded to the Jets, failed a Jets physical, was returned to Cleveland and cut, then passed a Miami physical all in a span of about 30 days.

In 2006 passed a Broncos physical, was traded to the Cowboys, then failed the Dallas physical and was sent back.
 

zinfamous

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Why was everyone talking about manning reinjuring himself when the risk of reinjury is probably as low as someone who didn't get injured in the first place?



ridiculous. You already have a nice sample to compare him with: other football players; and another sub-sample: quarterbacks. All of whom go through the same yearly regimen of getting pounded to the ground every week and with their own fair share of injuries.

Suffering the same sort of hits as every other one of his peers, why is Manning the one that needs a vertebral fusion?

Why?

Because there is something about his body--as there is with any other human's body--that handles abuse and healing differently than others.

In fact, it is exactly because he was injured this way that we very well know that his chances of suffering the same injury again, or even worse, is much greater than the average of his peers.
 

Hacp

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ridiculous. You already have a nice sample to compare him with: other football players; and another sub-sample: quarterbacks. All of whom go through the same yearly regimen of getting pounded to the ground every week and with their own fair share of injuries.

Suffering the same sort of hits as every other one of his peers, why is Manning the one that needs a vertebral fusion?

Why?

Because there is something about his body--as there is with any other human's body--that handles abuse and healing differently than others.

In fact, it is exactly because he was injured this way that we very well know that his chances of suffering the same injury again, or even worse, is much greater than the average of his peers.

His injury was a bulging disk. He did not have his neck cracked open. The reason he got the fusion? To get rid of the disk.
 
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ridiculous. You already have a nice sample to compare him with: other football players; and another sub-sample: quarterbacks. All of whom go through the same yearly regimen of getting pounded to the ground every week and with their own fair share of injuries.

Suffering the same sort of hits as every other one of his peers, why is Manning the one that needs a vertebral fusion?

Why?

Because there is something about his body--as there is with any other human's body--that handles abuse and healing differently than others.

In fact, it is exactly because he was injured this way that we very well know that his chances of suffering the same injury again, or even worse, is much greater than the average of his peers.

He had a herniated disk, it's not exactly something that terrible uncommon.

EDIT: I see Hacp posted pretty much the exact same thing.

In fact, Manning has probably taken the least pounding of any QB, especially at his age. Takes very few sacks, and of those sacks, takes very few hard hits. He's an iron man because he is smart about taking hits and he's built like a fucking tank.
 

The_Dude8

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I've got 3 'authentic' Manning jerseys:

White SB 41 jersey
Blue SB 44 jersey
Blue regular jersey

I say 'authentic' because I got them off eBay and I suspect that may not be really "authentic," but they look like they are and were reasonable.

I don't have a regular jersey with the Captain's patch though, so maybe I should pick one up.

I never knew they make jersey with the captain patch. It must be the game worn one.
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Seems the mad tweeter was up during the night playing the politician pr game saying that the team itself has still not cleared manning.

/popcorntime
 

HopJokey

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What about the Niners? Alex Smith is a free agent so they could let him walk and go after Manning.
 

Gibson486

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I tend to think the Cardinals, Redskins, and Jets would be the leaders but I would not be shocked if the Cowboys made a play either.

I do not think Peyton would want to go to the Jets. Too much of a media circus and the coach calls too much attention. That, and the Jets would have to rebuild in one season to get him so the team can turn into a offensive powerhouse instead of a defensive one. They cannot afford both.
 

Hacp

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I do not think Peyton would want to go to the Jets. Too much of a media circus and the coach calls too much attention. That, and the Jets would have to rebuild in one season to get him so the team can turn into a offensive powerhouse instead of a defensive one. They cannot afford both.

He'll never go to the jets because they are dysfunctional. I've been saying this all along, his best bet is with the Broncos. Look at what the team did with Tim Tebow. Look at what they can do with Peyton Manning. Plus, John Elway is there so its HOF QB paired with GOAT QB.
 
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