The Pledge of Allegiance

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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In light of the recent appeals court ruling in California, with respect
to
the Pledge of Allegiance, the following recollection from Senator John
McCain is very appropriate:

"The Pledge of Allegiance" - by Senator John McCain


As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war
during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept
us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved
us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40
men to a room.

This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct
result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs
10,000 miles from home.

One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike
Christian.

Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair
of shoes until he was 13 years old.

At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by
going to Officer Training School Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was
shot down and captured in 1967.

Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country and our military provide for people who want to work and want to succeed.

As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some
prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were
handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing.

Mike got himself a bamboo needle. Over a period of a couple of months,
he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt.

Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's
shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance.

I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of
our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the
most important and meaningful event.

One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and
discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it.

That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the
benefit of all of us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of
hours.

Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as
well as we could.

The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which
we
slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room.

As I said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the
excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting
there
beneath
that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his
bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his
eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag. He
was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was
making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to
Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.

So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never
forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build
our nation and promote freedom around the world.

You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country

"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to
the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."



Ausm

Locked at the request of the embattled OP
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't deserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!



Ausm
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm

Settle down, Beavis.
Maybe you should try understanding that living in a free country means you don't have to show respect nor pledge your allegiance.
 

Jzero

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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***Ausm throws a brick at your truck.

So....Ausm....do you know what it means to be an American? I mean REALLY know. Because I don't think you do.
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.
 

Zysoclaplem

Diamond Member
Sep 26, 2003
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Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't deserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!



Ausm

Why did we go into Vietnam? What did we gain from going there? What did we lose from going there?
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm

Settle down, Beavis.
Maybe you should try understanding that living in a free country means you don't have to show respect nor pledge your allegiance.


Ok Butthead, Maybe you should brush up on your history and find out WHY we are free and what our flag stands for.

Ausm
 

smithdj

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Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't deserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!



Ausm


Did you know that most "ass backward countries" have a lower rate of depression, live generally much more family oriented lives than we do here. And as far as being a fvcking loser, what have you done for the country. What you pay taxes so you think you are doing all some big favor. I hope N Korea kicks out arrogant a$$.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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Sigh... it's too bad that the 2 major political parties have managed to twist even our patriotism...

And that ATOT is now populated by nothing by 15 year-old brats :roll:

btw, the speech is true, but it's nothing but a partisan political stump.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ausm
Ok Butthead, Maybe you should brush up on your history and find out WHY we are free and what our flag stands for.

Ausm
Because you voted Republican?
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
 

Kipper

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2000
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You can have your pledge and that's nice. I think what this country great are two things: I don't have to justify my loyalty by 'pledging' anything (note that virtually no other nation has a pledge to a flag, like ours), and that I have the constitutional protection, of all things, to BURN a flag as a form of expression.
 
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