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PanzerIV

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Dec 19, 2002
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Originally posted by: DougK62
I didn't know he was a POW for *FIVE* years. That's crazy!

Yeah, he would have drowned when his parachute landed in a small lake but a North Vietnamese civilian helped him out of the water.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Why so hungry for war? Trying to prove something?
 

Kipper

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ausm

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm

I really don't understand where "liberal" comes into play at all. I really don't. Is it really necessary to resort to namecalling? You know, there are plenty of people with 'conservative' political views who don't say the pledge.

Why does it ALWAYS have to be a "liberal" or "conservative" thing? Sheesh.

P.S. You should have posted this in P&N.
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm


Um, frankly you're the one that's unAmerican and I'd be very sad to go into battle with you. But considering it's hardly a war, more like a cock waving contest in which we force our democractic way of life onto other people whom we helped put their leader into power and provided the means for him to kill his own people in the first place I think your argument, like yourself, is very weak minded. Why are you assuming that I'm a liberal.... because I disagree with your opinion and therefore must instantly be wrong? Do you see the world in black and white or what?
 

ManSnake

Diamond Member
Oct 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't deserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!



Ausm

Get a hobby and go worship your cheese or the Packers.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ausm
Ok Butthead, Maybe you should brush up on your history and find out WHY we are free and what our flag stands for.

Ausm
Because you voted Republican?

Is really any of YOUR business . A Democrat or Republican can love their counytry the same as far as I know....

Ausm
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jzero
***Ausm throws a brick at your truck.

So....Ausm....do you know what it means to be an American? I mean REALLY know. Because I don't think you do.
Um, I think Ausm is one of the very few in this thread that really does.

PS: And for the people wondering, I voted Democrat and I'm FAR from Republican.
 

Vic

Elite Member
Jun 12, 2001
50,422
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Originally posted by: Ausm
Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Of course, that's total bullsh!t. All you've done is politicize patriotism and claimed a monopoly on it. Which you don't have. The questioning voice of dissent can be just a patriotic as the mindless partisan puppet, and even more important to the foundation of democracy. But God help the liberal commie pinko who dares to question the ways of the Republican party!! What a hypocritical crock of sh!t... :roll:
 

Fausto

Elite Member
Nov 29, 2000
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Ausm: You need to chill. Being a liberal and daring to question one's government doesn't automatically exclude one from the ranks of the patriotic.
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
31,046
321
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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ausm
Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Of course, that's total bullsh!t. All you've done is politicize patriotism and claimed a monopoly on it. Which you don't have. The questioning voice of dissent can be just a patriotic as the mindless partisan puppet, and even more important to the foundation of democracy. But God help the liberal commie pinko who dares to question the ways of the Republican party!! What a hypocritical crock of sh!t... :roll:


Quiet, that kind of talk isn't allowed around here

But you're 100% right, as usual Vic.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
25,213
14
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Why so hungry for war? Trying to prove something?


No, Not in the least but if we engage in another world war I sure as hell wouldn't feel to save having a company of people who don't give a flying fvck about our Nation.

You people bashing my be from the west coast...

Ausm
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
31,046
321
136
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Originally posted by: Ausm
SO what you guys are saying is that you don't appreciate living in the U.S? You guys are a fvcking joke maybe you should try living in some ass backwards country and see how good you have it. I also like to see you jagoffs spit in the face of a veteren who busted his ass in combat to give you the rights you are enjoying now.

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Ausm


More like that story is null and void because of this:

this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this
and this

America tortures people too, make no fvcking mistake about it. Are those prisoners making flags?

Man Diss the flagg you diss our nation and you guys are fvcking losers....You don't seserve to be sucking off the hind tit of America. If you think you shouldn't have pride in your country then do us a favor and get the fvck out!

Uh, in case you didn't really read anything past what you learned in American high school, I AM the very definition of an American. I am free to make whatever opinion I want. I should get the fvck out? For what, being a patriot? Your idiocy only reminds me that this country is hopeless.

Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Why so hungry for war? Trying to prove something?


No, Not in the least but if we engage in another world war I sure as hell wouldn't feel to save having a company of people who don't give a flying fvck about our Nation.

You people bashing my be from the west coast...

Ausm


I don't give a fvck about our nation because I'm not swallowing propaganda? If anything my rebellion against this kind of thinking is the true definition of being American. You really need to stop watching Fox News man.. Your view of the world is truly scary.

Oh, and for the record, I'm from the midwest, the heart of the red states my friend.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
25,213
14
81
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ausm
Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.

So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...

Ausm
Of course, that's total bullsh!t. All you've done is politicize patriotism and claimed a monopoly on it. Which you don't have. The questioning voice of dissent can be just a patriotic as the mindless partisan puppet, and even more important to the foundation of democracy. But God help the liberal commie pinko who dares to question the ways of the Republican party!! What a hypocritical crock of sh!t... :roll:



Vic , damn I must just struck a nerve Hey as far as I am concerned anyone who does not appreciate the contributions of the people who sacrificed their lives and time to protect our country and/are fvcking losers.

If you can't handle that well tough shat?

Ausm
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
Why so hungry for war? Trying to prove something?


No, Not in the least but if we engage in another world war I sure as hell wouldn't feel to save having a company of people who don't give a flying fvck about our Nation.

You people bashing my be from the west coast...

Ausm
1) Learn how to spell.
2) I live in a very red state
3) Why would we engage in another world war? There are absolutely zero signs pointing to any sort of worldwide conflagration. If our interventionist foreign policy was tamed, it would lessen hatred of our policies from those in other countries. Ever stepped foot outside the U.S. and put yourself in someone else's shoes? Or do you live with your rose-colored, flag-draped glasses all of the time?
4) Stop generalizing. You're making a fool of yourself.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
59,179
13,750
136
Originally posted by: Ausm
No, Not in the least but if we engage in another world war I sure as hell wouldn't feel to save having a company of people who don't give a flying fvck about our Nation.

You people bashing my be from the west coast...

Ausm

Wrong, check the location. Omaha, Nebraska.
You don't have to say the pledge to defend the country. The defense of our country is done through actions, not words. Just as the definition of a true patriot can be determined through actions, not words.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Ausm
Vic , damn I must just struck a nerve Hey as far as I am concerned anyone who does not appreciate the contributions of the people who sacrificed their lives and time to protect our country and/are fvcking losers.

If you can't handle that well tough shat?

Ausm
Like I said above, generalized statements like that are really revealing you to be keep the ignorant fool.
 

Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: SampSon
I pledge allegiance to nobody.


You are in idiot...

Ausm
Why? Because I don't give a standing ovation to every heart-warming mass email about veterans and POWs? If I wanted to hear war stories and POW stories I'd go ask my uncle.
He went through vietnam, and a POW camp, never does he complain, flip out or make an issue out of it. He took it all in stride and is now living his life back in America.

I never said, nor implied that I don't appreciate living in this nation. I just don't need a friggin war story to appreciate what I have here. I appreciate what I have on a daily basis. I'm sick of assholes like you who think there is some status quo for loving america.
Who the fvck are you to tell me how to appreciate the country I live in? It's a free country, get the fvck off my case and stop telling me to leave if I don't like it. Part of freedom is the right to dissent, mabey you forgot that.

Another thing I'm sick of is this ideal you hold that I should praise soldiers. Not a single damned soldier has fought for MY and AMERICAS rights since the revolutionary war, or mabey the civil war. None of thoes soldiers in vietnam were fighting for MY RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS! They were over there fighting for vietnamese freedom. In the end they failed in their mission.

The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.

So fvck off with your bs calling me anti-american and non deserving of being here. I deserve to be here as much as any other citizen. I love it here and I'm here to stay, so kiss my ass.

The flag is just symbol, dissing it does not mean I diss the country. It's sickening that you can get that hung up over a simple symbol. If it ever came down to someone invading America I would be one of the first to drop my life, pick up a gun and go fight for MY COUNTRY. I am a true patriot, you are a warmonger.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
33,932
1,113
126
I love America and gladly pledge allegiance to the ideas upon which it was founded (plus universal sufferage). I don't know if that story is true or not, but it made me smile.

I kind of get the feeling that some people believe it impossible to be a free-thinker and loyal to the United States. I am both.
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
25,213
14
81
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
Why so hungry for war? Trying to prove something?


No, Not in the least but if we engage in another world war I sure as hell wouldn't feel to save having a company of people who don't give a flying fvck about our Nation.

You people bashing my be from the west coast...

Ausm
1) Learn how to spell.
2) I live in a very red state
3) Why would we engage in another world war? There are absolutely zero signs pointing to any sort of worldwide conflagration. If our interventionist foreign policy was tamed, it would lessen hatred of our policies from those in other countries. Ever stepped foot outside the U.S. and put yourself in someone else's shoes? Or do you live with your rose-colored, flag-draped glasses all of the time?
4) Stop generalizing. You're making a fool of yourself.



When the fvck did I say we are going to war ...I say if Mofo learn to read.

Ausm
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Ausm
You are in idiot...

Ausm
Why? Because I don't give a standing ovation to every heart-warming mass email about veterans and POWs? If I wanted to hear war stories and POW stories I'd go ask my uncle.
He went through vietnam, and a POW camp, never does he complain, flip out or make an issue out of it. He took it all in stride and is now living his life back in America.

I never said, nor implied that I don't appreciate living in this nation. I just don't need a friggin war story to appreciate what I have here. I appreciate what I have on a daily basis. I'm sick of assholes like you who think there is some status quo for loving america.
Who the fvck are you to tell me how to appreciate the country I live in? It's a free country, get the fvck off my case and stop telling me to leave if I don't like it. Part of freedom is the right to dissent, mabey you forgot that.

Another thing I'm sick of is this ideal you hold that I should praise soldiers. Not a single damned soldier has fought for MY and AMERICAS rights since the revolutionary war, or mabey the civil war. None of thoes soldiers in vietnam were fighting for MY RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS! They were over there fighting for vietnamese freedom. In the end they failed in their mission.

The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.

So fvck off with your bs calling me anti-american and non deserving of being here. I deserve to be here as much as any other citizen. I love it here and I'm here to stay, so kiss my ass.

The flag is just symbol, dissing it does not mean I diss the country. It's sickening that you can get that hung up over a simple symbol. If it ever came down to someone invading America I would be one of the first to drop my life, pick up a gun and go fight for MY COUNTRY. I am a true patriot, you are a warmonger.
:gift: :wine:
 

Platypus

Lifer
Apr 26, 2001
31,046
321
136
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: SampSon
I pledge allegiance to nobody.


You are in idiot...

Ausm
Why? Because I don't give a standing ovation to every heart-warming mass email about veterans and POWs? If I wanted to hear war stories and POW stories I'd go ask my uncle.
He went through vietnam, and a POW camp, never does he complain, flip out or make an issue out of it. He took it all in stride and is now living his life back in America.

I never said, nor implied that I don't appreciate living in this nation. I just don't need a friggin war story to appreciate what I have here. I appreciate what I have on a daily basis. I'm sick of assholes like you who think there is some status quo for loving america.
Who the fvck are you to tell me how to appreciate the country I live in? It's a free country, get the fvck off my case and stop telling me to leave if I don't like it. Part of freedom is the right to dissent, mabey you forgot that.

Another thing I'm sick of is this ideal you hold that I should praise soldiers. Not a single damned soldier has fought for MY and AMERICAS rights since the revolutionary war, or mabey the civil war. None of thoes soldiers in vietnam were fighting for MY RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS! They were over there fighting for vietnamese freedom. In the end they failed in their mission.

The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.

So fvck off with your bs calling me anti-american and non deserving of being here. I deserve to be here as much as any other citizen. I love it here and I'm here to stay, so kiss my ass.

The flag is just symbol, dissing it does not mean I diss the country. It's sickening that you can get that hung up over a simple symbol. If it ever came down to someone invading America I would be one of the first to drop my life, pick up a gun and go fight for MY COUNTRY. I am a true patriot, you are a warmonger.


:beer:
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Originally posted by: Ausm
When the fvck did I say we are going to war ...I say if Mofo learn to read.

Ausm
The only one in this thread who doesn't "give a flying fvck about our Nation" is you. You piss on America by distorting its true history and drape yourself in aggrandizing cliches. You are the definition of a warmongering chickenhawk who believes in every ounce out of Bush, the Propaganda President.

Step into this thread to see the depths of the deception you support and claim to call patriotism.
 

Kipper

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2000
7,366
0
0
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Ausm
Ok Butthead, Maybe you should brush up on your history and find out WHY we are free and what our flag stands for.

Ausm
Because you voted Republican?

Is really any of YOUR business . A Democrat or Republican can love their counytry the same as far as I know....

Ausm

What if you're NEITHER?
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
33,932
1,113
126
Originally posted by: SampSon
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.

World War II didn't directly threaten us? Aside from our country being attacked, Japan's published plans included an invasion. They were working on a way to drop plague bombs on us that used fleas to spread the disease. They actually used these in China.

Just because a war isn't faught on our soil doesn't mean that isn't faught to protect us.

 
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