Now you are labeling me a Republican did I strike a nerver? You must be one of those liberal Zealots who have a fetish to nit pick every conversation and shou8ld ONLY belong in P&N.
Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
The only one in this thread who doesn't "give a flying fvck about our Nation" is you. You piss on America by distorting its true history and drape yourself in aggrandizing cliches. You are the definition of a warmongering chickenhawk who believes in every ounce out of Bush, the Propaganda President.Originally posted by: Ausm
When the fvck did I say we are going to war ...I say if Mofo learn to read.
Ausm
Step into this thread to see the depths of the deception you support and claim to call patriotism.
Originally posted by: SampSon
Why? Because I don't give a standing ovation to every heart-warming mass email about veterans and POWs? If I wanted to hear war stories and POW stories I'd go ask my uncle.Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: SampSon
I pledge allegiance to nobody.
You are in idiot...
Ausm
He went through vietnam, and a POW camp, never does he complain, flip out or make an issue out of it. He took it all in stride and is now living his life back in America.
I never said, nor implied that I don't appreciate living in this nation. I just don't need a friggin war story to appreciate what I have here. I appreciate what I have on a daily basis. I'm sick of assholes like you who think there is some status quo for loving america.
Who the fvck are you to tell me how to appreciate the country I live in? It's a free country, get the fvck off my case and stop telling me to leave if I don't like it. Part of freedom is the right to dissent, mabey you forgot that.
Another thing I'm sick of is this ideal you hold that I should praise soldiers. Not a single damned soldier has fought for MY and AMERICAS rights since the revolutionary war, or mabey the civil war. None of thoes soldiers in vietnam were fighting for MY RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS! They were over there fighting for vietnamese freedom. In the end they failed in their mission.
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.
So fvck off with your bs calling me anti-american and non deserving of being here. I deserve to be here as much as any other citizen. I love it here and I'm here to stay, so kiss my ass.
The flag is just symbol, dissing it does not mean I diss the country. It's sickening that you can get that hung up over a simple symbol. If it ever came down to someone invading America I would be one of the first to drop my life, pick up a gun and go fight for MY COUNTRY. I am a true patriot, you are a warmonger.
Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Vic
Because you voted Republican?Originally posted by: Ausm
Ok Butthead, Maybe you should brush up on your history and find out WHY we are free and what our flag stands for.
Ausm
Is really any of YOUR business . A Democrat or Republican can love their counytry the same as far as I know....
Ausm
What if you're NEITHER?
Hmm...well, perhaps in your postings above labeling anyone not following your zealotry of the flag as "liberal mofo's" has something to do with it. *You're* the one who started generalizing and you've painted yourself into a corner that you now find yourself with no way out and you're trying to defend your pedantic little rant and failing miserably.Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
The only one in this thread who doesn't "give a flying fvck about our Nation" is you. You piss on America by distorting its true history and drape yourself in aggrandizing cliches. You are the definition of a warmongering chickenhawk who believes in every ounce out of Bush, the Propaganda President.Originally posted by: Ausm
When the fvck did I say we are going to war ...I say if Mofo learn to read.
Ausm
Step into this thread to see the depths of the deception you support and claim to call patriotism.
Now you are labeling me a Republican did I strike a nerver? You must be one of those liberal Zealots who have a fetish to nit pick every conversation and shou8ld ONLY belong in P&N.
Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm...well, perhaps in your postings above labeling anyone not following your zealotry of the flag as "liberal mofo's" has something to do with it. *You're* the one who started generalizing and you've painted yourself into a corner that you now find yourself with no way out and you're trying to defend your pedantic little rant and failing miserably.Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: conjur
The only one in this thread who doesn't "give a flying fvck about our Nation" is you. You piss on America by distorting its true history and drape yourself in aggrandizing cliches. You are the definition of a warmongering chickenhawk who believes in every ounce out of Bush, the Propaganda President.Originally posted by: Ausm
When the fvck did I say we are going to war ...I say if Mofo learn to read.
Ausm
Step into this thread to see the depths of the deception you support and claim to call patriotism.
Now you are labeling me a Republican did I strike a nerver? You must be one of those liberal Zealots who have a fetish to nit pick every conversation and shou8ld ONLY belong in P&N.
Ausm
You're a prime example of the lack of thinking exhibited in that recent PIPA study.
This is true, though WW2 is the closest we have to truly protecting our freedoms.Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: SampSon
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.
World War II didn't directly threaten us? Aside from our country being attacked, Japan's published plans included an invasion. They were working on a way to drop plague bombs on us that used fleas to spread the disease. They actually used these in China.
Just because a war isn't faught on our soil doesn't mean that isn't faught to protect us.
So you have nothing to reply with so you bust out the ad hominem. :roll: Good job, this post along with many others continues to assert the fact that you're a brainless moron.Dude you don't know jack about history and also you must have some anxiety problem with symbolism...
Ausm
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: SampSon
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.
World War II didn't directly threaten us? Aside from our country being attacked, Japan's published plans included an invasion. They were working on a way to drop plague bombs on us that used fleas to spread the disease. They actually used these in China.
Just because a war isn't faught on our soil doesn't mean that isn't faught to protect us.
Originally posted by: SampSon
Why? Because I don't give a standing ovation to every heart-warming mass email about veterans and POWs?Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: SampSon
I pledge allegiance to nobody.
You are in idiot...
Ausm
If I wanted to hear war stories and POW stories I'd go ask my uncle.
He went through vietnam, and a POW camp, never does he complain, flip out or make an issue out of it. He took it all in stride and is now living his life back in America.
You feel then what he went rough was no big deal and his contribution to his country does not mean Jack.
I never said, nor implied that I don't appreciate living in this nation. I just don't need a friggin war story to appreciate what I have here. I appreciate what I have on a daily basis.
War has been with us as long as we have had history. I don't condone war but it is a reality that you must learn to face,
I'm sick of assholes like you who think there is some status quo for loving america.
Who the fvck are you to tell me how to appreciate the country I live in? It's a free country, get the fvck off my case and stop telling me to leave if I don't like it. Part of freedom is the right to dissent, mabey you forgot that.
Yes, and that is one of the reasons today's youth is going down the shitter due to lack of respect for anything in general.
Another thing I'm sick of is this ideal you hold that I should praise soldiers. Not a single damned soldier has fought for MY and AMERICAS rights since the revolutionary war, or mabey the civil war.
You should really brush up on your WW2 knowledge. If you don't like soldiers do you think we should abolish our army because there will be no more wars.:roll:
None of thoes soldiers in vietnam were fighting for MY RIGHTS OR FREEDOMS! They were over there fighting for vietnamese freedom. In the end they failed in their mission.
Better brush up on your Vietnam history also. I do believe Vietnam was a clusterfvck but you can blame Johnson/Nixon for that and not the military.
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.
You generalization is really boring me...
So fvck off with your bs calling me anti-american and non deserving of being here. I deserve to be here as much as any other citizen. I love it here and I'm here to stay, so kiss my ass.
I think I will pass
The flag is just symbol, dissing it does not mean I diss the country. It's sickening that you can get that hung up over a simple symbol. If it ever came down to someone invading America I would be one of the first to drop my life, pick up a gun and go fight for MY COUNTRY. I am a true patriot, you are a warmonger.
Originally posted by: PanzerIV
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: SampSon
The same goes for all contemporary wars, including the world wars. America has been fighting for the rights of others, not its own. There havn't been any wars on American soil, there have been no wars that directly threaten our rights and freedoms, ever.
So I don't need to hear all the time how I need to praise soldiers for keeping my country and freedoms safe, because that's pure bullsh!t.
World War II didn't directly threaten us? Aside from our country being attacked, Japan's published plans included an invasion. They were working on a way to drop plague bombs on us that used fleas to spread the disease. They actually used these in China.
Just because a war isn't faught on our soil doesn't mean that isn't faught to protect us.
Chaotic I found that statement rather amusing as well. I suppose a world divided by Japan and Germany would have had virtually zero impact on the US! LOL.
Not to mention that Germany was attempting to develop long range jet bombers to bomb New York and was also working on a nuclear weapons program. But of course the Nazis being the nice guys they were would never have used nukes on the US and of course the Japanese would have been content to leave Hawaii alone! :roll:
Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
*hands Ausm a bigger shovel*
Originally posted by: Vic
Of course, that's total bullsh!t. All you've done is politicize patriotism and claimed a monopoly on it. Which you don't have. The questioning voice of dissent can be just a patriotic as the mindless partisan puppet, and even more important to the foundation of democracy. But God help the liberal commie pinko who dares to question the ways of the Republican party!! What a hypocritical crock of sh!t... :roll:Originally posted by: Ausm
Like you said you have freedom of speech and so do I ....If we going to war and we had a company of Liberal mofo's like yourself...we woulf be FVKED.
So if you don't like they way I think I really don't give a fvck...
Ausm
Originally posted by: TuxDave
OP: I remember a discussion where 'nanny-states' with rules telling us not to drink, not to smoke and to recycle was ruled hilariously stupid. Yet telling everyone the 'proper' way of being patriotic is not? There's no doubt that we appreciate our freedoms but who's to say 'how' we respect it.
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: TuxDave
OP: I remember a discussion where 'nanny-states' with rules telling us not to drink, not to smoke and to recycle was ruled hilariously stupid. Yet telling everyone the 'proper' way of being patriotic is not? There's no doubt that we appreciate our freedoms but who's to say 'how' we respect it.
I don't think the government has a right to tell anyone how to be a "patriot" But I do find it appalling when people have no repect for the people in our military and veterans. I am not a "Warmonger" I just realize that war has been with us since the beginning of civilization and it will always be with us.
I also don't think our Goverment ALWAYS makes the right decisions. I personally think Iraq is a clusterfvk and I hope it won't turn into another Vietnam. But I do think when a person has no respect for our country or fighting forces this will turn Iraq into another Vietnam.
The reason why most vietnam vets don't talk about the war is because they were treated like shat for doing their duty which was WRONG.
Ausm
When are people going to get it through that ALMOST NO ONE has a problem with vets or active servicemen? They're doing their job, we all know this, we support them, we've supported them all along. Everyone seems to be in agreement that the stuff that went on during Vietnam was wrong. It is, strangely, possible to have this position on the troops and yet disagree with WHY they are in places like Iraq. I know it's a fine distinction, but work with me here, okay? You're blabbering about something that isn't happening unless you listen to certain people trying to supress dissent by accusing the anti-war crowd of "not supporting our troops.....hating America....blahblahblahblah..."Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: TuxDave
OP: I remember a discussion where 'nanny-states' with rules telling us not to drink, not to smoke and to recycle was ruled hilariously stupid. Yet telling everyone the 'proper' way of being patriotic is not? There's no doubt that we appreciate our freedoms but who's to say 'how' we respect it.
I don't think the government has a right to tell anyone how to be a "patriot" But I do find it appalling when people have no repect for the people in our military and veterans. I am not a "Warmonger" I just realize that war has been with us since the beginning of civilization and it will always be with us.
I also don't think our Goverment ALWAYS makes the right decisions. I personally think Iraq is a clusterfvk and I hope it won't turn into another Vietnam. But I do think when a person has no respect for our country or fighting forces this will turn Iraq into another Vietnam.
The reason why most vietnam vewts don't talk about the war is because they were treated like shat for doing their duty which was WRONG.
Ausm
Originally posted by: Ausm
The reason why most vietnam vets don't talk about the war is because they were treated like shat for doing their duty which was WRONG.
Ausm
Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
You can have your pledge and that's nice. I think what this country great are two things: I don't have to justify my loyalty by 'pledging' anything (note that virtually no other nation has a pledge to a flag, like ours), and that I have the constitutional protection, of all things, to BURN a flag as a form of expression.