The point of overclocking?

TGCid

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Looking over most overclocking results, I realized something interesting. Unless you are lucky and get a cpu that overclocks well, the costs of getting a "good heatsink" almost equal the amount of money you save by overclocking. This is not always the case, but its the most likely case. Am I wrong? Is there a point to overclocking besides getting more than what you pay for?
 
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the thing is that the p4 "C's" and the throughbred B's have proven to great overclockers time after time. of course, there is one or two in the batch of 2.4C that wont hit 3Ghz and 1700+ that wont get to 2200 mhz but most of them do. also, the cost of a good HSF in nothing compared to the price difference of a 2.4C and a 3.0C or a 2500+ or 3200+
 

VisableAssassin

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point is why pay $448 on a new Barton 3200 when you could pay $92 for a 2500+ and still get the same speed? i havent seen a barton yet NOT hit 2.2ghz.
besides getting something for free you always get the bragging rights
 

oldfart

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Let see. I run a P4 2.6C @ 3.34. The fastest P4 available is 3.2 GHz.

Newegg prices:
P4 3.2C $699
P4 2.6C $214
 

amcdonald

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There is not an xp processor on the market that is comparable to a OC'ed 2.4ghz tbred-B.
A 2700+ (which doesn't come close) costs $134 at newegg.
My 1700+ (0319DLT3C) cost $65. Add an ax-7 and a fan at $25.
And high-end P4's and bartons have ridiculous costs so any OC'ing makes sense.
 

lchyi

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Shoot, did anyone mention that it is a pretty fun hobby (yea besides the ridiculous amounts of money you save). Hehe funniest thing I ever seen is you people using Tbred-B 1700+s making 2.whatever ghz. For 41 bucks at newegg that's a steal, not a bargain.
 

4x4expy

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Originally posted by: TGCid
Is there a point to overclocking besides getting more than what you pay for?

Did you read what you were typing? This is exactly the point of overclocking. This and the feeling of "beating" the chip makers at their own game. Basically you can buy a $50 processor and make it run like a $300 chip, or you can ante the $300 price for a chip and make it run like processors that won't be on the market until next year!
 

Quaggoth

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While the difference in price IS usually more than the $40 you spend on a good HS/F, you usually get to keep the HS/F through a few CPU's...
 

Jeff7181

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Is there a point to working besides getting paid? Yeah, I like to help my employer... I offered to work for free, but he'd feel bad about that so he pays me anyway.
 

zephyrprime

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I think TGCid kinda got a point. Some overclocks are really cost effective but some suck.
 

jjyiz28

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Originally posted by: TGCid
Looking over most overclocking results, I realized something interesting. Unless you are lucky and get a cpu that overclocks well, the costs of getting a "good heatsink" almost equal the amount of money you save by overclocking. This is not always the case, but its the most likely case. Am I wrong? Is there a point to overclocking besides getting more than what you pay for?

i understand your point, you buy pc3500 ram that costs a high price premium over pc2700, a copper heatsink, and an expensive mobo for good overclock options, and several case fans. and only managed a sub par 1 ghz overclock. its all about moderation, you wanna buy enough so you could get a good overclock, but not too much so you end up paying more anyways.
 

Abhoth

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It's really pretty simple...

1) We all like free sh|t, don't we. Free bandwidth/Mhz etc. works.
2) Not everyone can afford the latest and greatest, especially considering the latest and greatest comes along every 3 to 6 months!
3) Back to the free stuff... it's like stealing! We can steal a little extra and not get busted! Unless you push it a bit to far. ;-) Just buy another 1700+ and it don't hurt too bad.
4) There's the 'techie tinker' factor... god we love to tinker! The British are that way... had an MG Midget some time ago. Little tiny motor that really cranked... and more adjusting screws and such than I've ever seen! They love to tinker...

See, it's really quite simple... it's fun.
 

dxkj

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Barton 2500+ 89 dollars
Slk800+fan 50 dollars (which, btw, a fan is reuseable)
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139 for a 2.3ghz aka 3400+ Barton (which they dont even sell, so you have a faster chip than people can just buy)


Barton 3200+ 450 dollars



amount saved, 311 dollars, enough to buy a kickass motherboard, ram, etc etc etc..



not really a question



That and its fun to overclock, gamble, risk, get a big payoff.
 

SemperFi

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Originally posted by: AnImuS
Originally posted by: MrEgo Nah, he's a Gigalo.
i wouldn't mind that job catering to beautiful women only of course

LoL.

The only problem I see is with an icon like that you may not get much business.

<FONT face=Verdana>Abhoth said it best in his post especially number 3. </FONT>


 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: TGCid
Looking over most overclocking results, I realized something interesting. Unless you are lucky and get a cpu that overclocks well, the costs of getting a "good heatsink" almost equal the amount of money you save by overclocking. This is not always the case, but its the most likely case. Am I wrong? Is there a point to overclocking besides getting more than what you pay for?

Lets see...
XP2500 Retail $92 at newegg... (fan is adequate for overclocking even up to 2.2 Ghz)
Thermalright SLK-800 at newegg $38... (if you feel like replacing the stock heatsink)

= $130 for a processor equal to an XP3200 and a very good heatsink

- OR -

XP3200 Retail $448 at newegg...

Hmmmm... $130 or $448... hmmmm... I can't really decide... hmmmm...

 

Falcon2k

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u can OC well with the stock heatsink. I think of OCing as a way to extent ur PC's life. If you get pissed with your ancient computer cuz it's just too slow, then OC it and you wont be pissed nemore, for a while.

Reccomended for those who are too lazy to buy a new system.
 

novice

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For some of us, me, for example, the whole challenge is to see how fast you can go for how little $. Of course, having little money is a fact. But what is the point of going 2.0 Ghz for $300? I mean anyone who has $300 can accomplish it, so it means nothing other than you are one of the many that can spend $300. But, if you can reach 2.0 Ghz for a lot less than $300, then you feel like you have accomplished something. Here is my current upgrade:
Shuttle AN35N Nforce2 Mainboard $66
XP 1700+ $41
Speeze hsf $12
PNY PC-2700 2x256 $30 (after mir)
Total $149
Now if it works, and I can achieve a decent overclock of 2.0 or 2.1 Ghz, I will be a very happy camper. Also I won't be out all that much money, especially if I can sell my old K7T Turbo, XP1700 Palomino and PC-133 ram on the F/S forum for $80 or $90 or so, then it gets even better. And my boys won't be fighting over who has to use the "slow" computer on LAN games. It is kind of like building your own PC vs. buying. Owning a $4000 Alienware or Falcon NW means you have a very fast system. It also means you are out between $2500 and $4000 or so. If I can get 80% of that performance level for 20% of the cost, then I feel like I win. At least in my twisted world.
 
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